An Uncommon Pursuit

[quote]skidmark wrote:
My bench is well and truly screwed. I barely got 255 for three off a two board and then could barely do 245.

My arms back and chest are the biggest they’ve ever been and I can’t even bench what I did 4 weeks ago.

Ever since I dropped high rep bench work my bench has gone into the crapper.

I may have to take a token bench in the comp because I don’t have a lot of time to turn this around. I can’t keep my right elbow tucked. It just keeps winging out on it’s own after three reps.

I’m so flipping frustrated I’m ready to pack it in on bench. I’ve been fighting this shoulder for 3 years now and I’m just done.[/quote]

hmm…am I sounding more like you? (see the post I made today on my log).

I am a beginner so I have no technical/tactical input but you can’t give up on me now…3 plates this year remember!


Sorry for the noise. I’m all better now.

I’m ashamed of my outburst now.

It wasn’t that bad a training session, got some good tricep work in and I’ve identified a possible fix.

Starting daily high rep one-arm dumbbell work following the bench path, really concentrating on keeping that shoulder depressed. It’s pure weakness in the rotator cuff, not anything damaged structurally.

1-21-2009
Bench
235x5,2,2,1,1

2 board
255x3
245x3

Elbows out cable press-downs
120 3x8

Tate presses
45’s x 8,6,6

1-22-2009
Bench (p)rehab

1 arm db Bench press
35x30,20

1-arm cross body Miniband bench press
10,30

Dude, try the YTWL with 5 or 10 pounds, done daily. I guarantee major improvement in the rotator cuffs within 3 days. I do it as part of my warm up/mobility whether I am benching or squatting.

Also, Inside and outside rotations on a cable pillar work well too. I think thats what they are called. I only use 20 pounds and do 20 reps. do the inside first. If setting up for the right arm, but the pully at the same level as your elbow. Stand with your shoulders in line with the pillar, right shoulder closest.

Use a D-ring. with your elbow buried in your ribs, draw the hand to your left ribs, then under control let the negative take the hand back out. Do it 20 times. Then do the other side. Then, standing with your left shoulder closest to the pillar, take the handle in your right hand, and start with right hand at left side.

Then, keeping your elbow buried, act like you are backhanding a cross-fit practitioner. 3 days, I’m serious as a heart attack!
ol

bad workouts are the best yardstick…

that was legitimate beef…
but it looks like your working around it.

and having a busticated shoulder from a broken
clavicle the ytwl is excellent- for overall shoulder health

good luck
kmc

[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Dude, try the YTWL with 5 or 10 pounds, done daily. I guarantee major improvement in the rotator cuffs within 3 days. I do it as part of my warm up/mobility whether I am benching or squatting.

Also, Inside and outside rotations on a cable pillar work well too. I think thats what they are called. I only use 20 pounds and do 20 reps. do the inside first. If setting up for the right arm, but the pully at the same level as your elbow. Stand with your shoulders in line with the pillar, right shoulder closest.

Use a D-ring. with your elbow buried in your ribs, draw the hand to your left ribs, then under control let the negative take the hand back out. Do it 20 times. Then do the other side. Then, standing with your left shoulder closest to the pillar, take the handle in your right hand, and start with right hand at left side.

Then, keeping your elbow buried, act like you are backhanding a cross-fit practitioner. 3 days, I’m serious as a heart attack!
ol[/quote]

How many sets do you do?

here is a vid of the protocol
I manage one or two sets
with 5 or 8 pounds…

after a few workouts with these
the clicking in my shoulder that is constant
is less noticable.

hope it helps…
kmc

Thanks, both of you.

I do the the Dave Tate mobility for warm up, then I just get one set of 8 reps on each excersize of YTWL with no rest between. I started at 5 lbs and now use 10 lbs. Cosgrove says for this routine 20 lbs is very heavy, so its not about the weight. The trick (IMO) is to hold the weight for a second at the top of each rep. it sure works for me!

Cool! I got picked to do a supplement product review on another forum I frequent. They gonna send me a free tub of the stuff.

Damn them shoulders. If it wasn’t holding my arm on I’d get rid of it. Hope your able to work through or around it somehow. Best of luck skidmark.

Thanks Streamline.

Elbows been kicking up lately. Sore to the touch though it doesn’t hurt to bend. Hurts to push with it though. Generally feeling run down and on the verge of getting sick so I’ve been skiving off the last few days.

Back to it tomorrow to see how much squat poundage I’ve lost…

[quote]skidmark wrote:
Thanks Streamline.

Elbows been kicking up lately. Sore to the touch though it doesn’t hurt to bend. Hurts to push with it though. Generally feeling run down and on the verge of getting sick so I’ve been skiving off the last few days.

Back to it tomorrow to see how much squat poundage I’ve lost…[/quote]

It’s that feeling of mortality. I had issues with my lower back this morning while freezing my ass off. When something is stopping you from from training at 100%. It really takes a lot of the fun out of training.

I had some elbow sensitivity on the inside bone. Sound similar to what you discribed. I just seemed to stop, just like it started.

Good luck with the squats tomorrow.

good work on the freeby. You’re practically Sponsored! wish theyd let me test Surge…
OL

1-26-2009
Squats
335x5,3
365x1 (not too hard)

Anderson squats (4" below parallel)

315x2,1

Squats: straight (again)
315x3,4

GM Squats
235x8,8

That’s all i have. some creeping chest garbage has got me.

double your sleep and your water intake.

Good advice.

I forgot to mark the squats last night as a PR. Never done 335x5 before. And the 365 was a previous max that I strongly considered doubling. So I did okay even though the workout was abbreviated. If I can put 5 more pounds on between now and the comp I’m pretty certain 400 is doable.

Looking forward to deads tomorrow, though I may sub in bench

[quote]skidmark wrote:
Good advice.

I forgot to mark the squats last night as a PR. Never done 335x5 before. And the 365 was a previous max that I strongly considered doubling. So I did okay even though the workout was abbreviated. If I can put 5 more pounds on between now and the comp I’m pretty certain 400 is doable.

Looking forward to deads tomorrow, though I may sub in bench[/quote]

That’s awsome squattin’ skid! I think you’re right, if you can do a double at 365, 400 at the comp is certainly a possibility. You still weigh under 200lb.?

[quote]daddyzombie wrote:
skidmark wrote:
Good advice.

I forgot to mark the squats last night as a PR. Never done 335x5 before. And the 365 was a previous max that I strongly considered doubling. So I did okay even though the workout was abbreviated. If I can put 5 more pounds on between now and the comp I’m pretty certain 400 is doable.

Looking forward to deads tomorrow, though I may sub in bench

That’s awsome squattin’ skid! I think you’re right, if you can do a double at 365, 400 at the comp is certainly a possibility. You still weigh under 200lb.?

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Thanks DZ. 187 right now.