[quote]PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
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Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
Not run up defecits that our grandchildren would be paying for?
Not appoint unqualified cronies to every postition they could?
Read at a fifth grade level?
Wow, I guess I was successful in stirring the pot. Cool!
[quote]harris447 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
Not run up defecits that our grandchildren would be paying for?
Not appoint unqualified cronies to every postition they could?
Read at a fifth grade level?
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Not start a war for no reason whatsoever? I guess we never got attacked and Saddam complied fully with international UN sanctions. He was just misunderstood.
Not run up defecits that our grandchildren would be paying for? To pay for your liberal social well-fare programs so fat, lazy Americans can do nothing and feed off the system their ENTIRE LIVES for free and give nothing back.
Not appoint unqualified cronies to every postition they could? Who is unqualified in your opinion? I guess the President should appoint people he doesn’t like to a few positions. Hillary would definately be unbiased.
Read at a fifth grade level? You need to read the biographies of the President and his cabinet. All of them are VERY educated and have held other positions of great responsibility.
I recommend you quit using moveon.org and CNN as your sole source of information.
BTW, just for fun, here’s my positions on these:
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_05/008769.php
EXCERPT:
Undo the bankruptcy bill enacted by this administration [/quote]
NO - undo is too harsh - may not be perfect, but the old system did need fixing.
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Repeal the estate tax repeal[/quote] Um, NO.
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Increase the minimum wage and index it to the CPI[/quote] Two parter: NO and probably.
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Universal health care (obviously the devil is in the details on this one)[/quote] Probably not, but I wouldn’t rule out that someone could come up with a plan I would actually support.
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Increase CAFE standards. Some other environment-related regulation[/quote]
NO to the first, and depends on the regulation to the second.
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Pro-reproductive rights, getting rid of abstinence-only education, improving education about and access to contraception including the morning after pill, and supporting choice. On the last one there’s probably some disagreement around the edges (parental notification, for example), but otherwise.[/quote] This is a whole list of items, some of which are loaded terms. Essentially, it sounds to me like this is advocating government funding of this stuff, so NO.
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Simplify and increase the progressivity of the tax code[/quote]
Simplify: YES. Increase progressivity: NO.
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Kill faith-based funding. Certainly kill federal funding of anything that engages in religious discrimination.[/quote] NO and YES. The government shouldn’t discriminate against religion or for religion.
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Reduce corporate giveaways[/quote] YES – and particularly include those to PBS… Query: Aren’t universal health insurance and the Medicare Drug Plan corporate giveaways?
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Have Medicare run the Medicare drug plan[/quote] NO: Kill the 2nd, fix the first.
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Force companies to stop underfunding their pensions. Change corporate bankruptcy law to put workers and retirees at the head of the line with respect to their pensions.[/quote]First part: Qualified Yes, but transition to defined contribution rather than defined benefit plans. 2nd Part: Hell no – I can just imagine what this would do to private investment…
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Leave the states alone on issues like medical marijuana. Generally move towards “more decriminalization” of drugs, though the details complicated there too.[/quote] Qualified Yes - devil is in the details on that too, as I wouldn’t be for legalization of “hard” drugs.
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Paper ballots[/quote] NO - What happened to leaving things to the states? Anyway, this whole issue should be addressed via reforms to eliminate voter fraud.
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Improve access to daycare and other pro-family policies. Obiously details matter.[/quote] All on the government’s dime I’m sure. And free cotton candy and balloons too… NO.
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Raise the cap on wages covered by FICA taxes.[/quote] Nothing like discincentivizing work. NO.
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Marriage rights for all, which includes “gay marriage” and quicker transition to citizenship for the foreign spouses of citizens.[/quote] First part: Not by judicial fiat. As for a legislative act, it would depend on the details. NO for the second part - the immigration procedures are already stacked in favor of relatives - address the other issues like letting in qualified immigrants first.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Get impeached (with the exception of Dean) by a GOP controlled congress and senate.
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Yeh, after giving each other blowjobs in their offices while terrorists watch through the Whitehouse window!
[quote]harris447 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
Not run up defecits that our grandchildren would be paying for?
Not appoint unqualified cronies to every postition they could?
Read at a fifth grade level?
[/quote]
Don’t stop!
They would also,
Not protect the US from Terrorists!
Not support democracy around the world!
Run down the US as a "backward"country compared to Europe!
Not stop unnecessary raises in income tax!
Where are all the fired up libs? Did they quit already or are they quickly reading up on moveon.org for ammo? Where’s that confused soul who is sorry he voted for the President?
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Where are all the fired up libs? Did they quit already or are they quickly reading up on moveon.org for ammo?[/quote]
I can’t speak for others, but personally, at this point, I realized there’s nothing I can say or do to change the minds of the few remaining Bush II supporters. The guy could go ahead and murder an innocent baby in cold blood, with his bare hands, and you’d still find some way to come up with a positive spin and praise him for his heroic action…
I honestly have better ways to waste my time. Like talking to walls.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Where’s that confused soul who is sorry he voted for the President?[/quote]
You do realize that the “confused soul” was not the one posting here, but rather quoted here, right?
Just checking…
Wow! Got me.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
[/quote]
Nice, and this from someone who has a guy with a gun for his avatar. All kinds of peace-loving, you are.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Freakin’ Clark Kent could be President and half the country would make him out to be evil.
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Hell yeah! Not only is Clark Kent not a citizen, he’s an illegal immigrant. And you want him to be president??
You’re on a roll today. Well, I got nuthin better to do.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever? I guess we never got attacked and Saddam complied fully with international UN sanctions. He was just misunderstood.
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Saddam Hussein was not connected to 9/11. Prove that he was.
Lots of countries don’t listent to the UN. Lots of countries have brutal dictators. We didn’t go after them. This argument does not hold up anymore. 15 of 19 hijackers were Saudia Arabian. None were Iraqi.
LOL. Yes, these people are EVERYWHERE! Just like all those women who use abortions for birth control instead of condoms, right? Yea, about as numerous.
The fact is, this war is costing us more than anything else. They want to raise the debt limit, while cutting taxes at the same time, but still screaming that social security is broke.
If social security is broke, than that tells us the money isn’t going to these people who “feed off the system” or to social welfare programs. Its going to this debacle of war.
Oh, I don’t know…didn’t Brownie do a heckuva job? Have you checked that whole “CIA leak” thing? I mean, who nominates Harriet Miers for the SC?
Your losing on this one bud.
Bush couldn’t find oil in Texas. He drove Spectrum 7 oil company into the ground. He couldn’t even run the Rangers right.
Not too mention that he can barely fucking talk correctly without stuttering and getting that “deer in headlights” look.
This man is not a smart man.
That’s funny, because you sound like Ben Savage mixed with some Faux News and a little Limbaugh thrown in. Don’t throw stones in your glass house.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Freakin’ Clark Kent could be President and half the country would make him out to be evil.
Hell yeah! Not only is Clark Kent not a citizen, he’s an illegal immigrant. And you want him to be president??[/quote]
Clark Kent all the way (he’s not a Mexican, so its OK that he’s an immigrant).
[quote]PGJ wrote:
harris447 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
Nice, and this from someone who has a guy with a gun for his avatar. All kinds of peace-loving, you are.
[/quote]
LOL. Nothing like making assumptions about someone you never met, right?
You’re proving that you just aren’t that intelligent, and you’re doing it pretty well.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
harris447 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Not start a war for no reason whatsoever?
Nice, and this from someone who has a guy with a gun for his avatar. All kinds of peace-loving, you are.
[/quote]
It’s a cartoon, shit-for-brains.
Irish
Not much of a cut and paste guy so I’ll do my best to respond to your drivel from memory.
First off the poster you responded too said Saddam didn’t comply with impose U.N. sanctions. This is very true. Your reponse–a typical rambling about ties to AQ-- was off topic and not toally true. We do know that Iraq was a training station and we know several of the hijackers met and passed through at times. At least stick with the WMD defense, it’s mostly accurate.
It shows your complete lack of common sense to say ‘this is not a smart man.’
It makes ytou look childish and less than intelligent yourself. Is he the smartest man, no, but he is far from stupid.
The 'Brownie" thing is over hyped. Maybe he put a cronie in a cush job–oh the horror. But it was not his fault or any ONE persons fault with reg. to Katrina and the failure of FEMA. Please, by nopw we all know how many parties were responsible for the failure. To try and tie this to Bush and this selection is simply ridiculous.
Everyone–except maybe you–knew tha Harriet M. was a throw in candidate. She was put into that position because everyone knew that the dems would not pass 2 justices along in a row. No way. No how. Roberts was too good, they had to let him through, but noway would they let Bush have 2 positive choices in a row. Theow her in, take the heat, let the dems have their way. Then throw in the guy he wanted all along.
Your continual lefty talking points repeated nonsense makes no points. It just shows that you believe as much garbage as you claim all the followers believe. Do I think Bush has done a great job–no. Good–yes given the circumstances. Do I think it’s time for a change, yes I do. Will I vote for Hillary–not a chance. You guys better find someone to run or you’ll have to bring up all this same shit for the next 6-10 years.
By the way–making assumption about someone you’ve never met…how did you put that to the other poster. Sounds like you should take your own advice. If all we could do was have opinions about those we’ve met, what the hell would we do all day long on this site. Talk training!
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Freakin’ Clark Kent could be President and half the country would make him out to be evil.
Hell yeah! Not only is Clark Kent not a citizen, he’s an illegal immigrant. And you want him to be president??
Clark Kent all the way (he’s not a Mexican, so its OK that he’s an immigrant).[/quote]
I’m tired of my tax dollars paying for all the health care of these illegal Kryptonians. We need better security between America and Krypton. And is it too much to ask for my Kryptonian dishwashers and busboys to speak a little English?!
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Marmadogg wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Here’s some scarry thoughts:
What would Gore do?
What would Kerry do?
What would Hillary do?
What would Kennedy do?
What would Dean do?
Get impeached (with the exception of Dean) by a GOP controlled congress and senate.
Are you implying that Clinton’s impeachment for blatantly lying before a federal grand jury was a big GOP political move? MOST people go straight to jail for that.[/quote]
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I thought we were talking about proposed democratic presidential canidates…
What is it with the Clenis haters on this site?
Pathetic.
F Clenis…he is a waste of oxygen.
PGJ is just another right wingnut Bush appologist.
Don’t bother with this nut as all you will get in return is intellectual dishonest.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Freakin’ Clark Kent could be President and half the country would make him out to be evil.
Hell yeah! Not only is Clark Kent not a citizen, he’s an illegal immigrant. And you want him to be president??
Clark Kent all the way (he’s not a Mexican, so its OK that he’s an immigrant).
I’m tired of my tax dollars paying for all the health care of these illegal Kryptonians. We need better security between America and Krypton. And is it too much to ask for my Kryptonian dishwashers and busboys to speak a little English?![/quote]
Right on! Let’s build a big fucking wall. A wall made of kryptonite. With snipers at the top. And tanks. And strippers (if you’re going to blow all that money, strippers better be involved somehow).
I can’t wait till I’m President.