Bush, the Phony Conservative

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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I publicly renounce my support of this coward effective immediately. He is a phony. He came in as a conservative but is nothing of the sort. He is a Lib. I also denounce the Republican D0-NOTHING Congress — no term limits, increased spending and waste, no social security reform,…

They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.

I say we take a giant fucking bulldozer and push the whole rotten pile into the Potomac!!

Headhunter

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.
[/quote]

Heav’n has no rage like love to hatred turn’d
Nor Hell a fury, like a woman scorn’d.

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[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Heav’n has no rage like love to hatred turn’d
Nor Hell a fury, like a woman scorn’d.
[/quote]

HAHAHA, that’s the first thing that went through my mind when I read dickhunter’s little tantrum, too.

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Well, you are probably joking. But you sound like you’re making a lot of sense to me.

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For some reason, I’m thinking of rats and sinking ships.

And damn, can those rats run!

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wauuuugh! I want my mommy…[/quote]

Maybe if you weren’t so beholden to some ideological fantasy and didn’t believe every piece of propaganda spewed you’d be a bit less likely to be taken advantage of in this way?

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This childish rant is a day late and a dollar short. Who cares what you think, HH? You haven’t been right about anything, all along. Now all of a sudden you say a lightbulb went off in your brain? Big deal, dimbulb.

I expect to see lots more examples of the Angry Right losing their minds. I look forward to watching these loons marginalize themselves even further, because they think the problem with politicians is that “they aren’t conservative enough”.

Have fun out there in the Far Right wilderness, nutjob.

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“Pure” conservativism like what HH is lamenting, is dead in the water, as far as a useful system of governance.

“Pure” conservatism is a rigid ideology, and is not responsive to real-world events, rapidly shifting events, and the needs of the public. Sorry but your little ideological playbook isn’t more important than serving the needs of the public. And the voters will let you know that.

This rigid ideology is how we ended up with tax cuts for the rich (the Trickle Down Economics fantasy), at the very same time as a declaration of a Global War On Terror (we’ve never had tax cuts during a war before). Because according to the Right Wing playbook, tax cuts for the rich are the most important thing ever.

Rigid ideology is also how the Right Wing screwed up the Katrina response, too. Because according to the playbook, one of the most important goals is privitizing the federal government. It’s even more important to privitize the government, according to these loons, than responding to a huge disaster where people are dying.

Sure there might be some useful aspects of a rational conservatism that can be employed, for example the idea of limiting the size of the federal government. Despite the right wing spin, Liberals want to keep limits on the size and scope of the government. Nobody with any sense wants to see the government balloon in size, or trusts the government completely.

But just simply “limiting” the size of the federal government is not what the Far Right wants… the Far Right wants to privitize everything, and eliminate federal government completely, except for the military. For example they want to eliminate the Dept of Education, they don’t believe in public education.

The Far Right wants to get rid of the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and so on. The Far Right pretends that the mythical “free market” will protect consumers from the ENRONS of the world. What the Far Right wants, would actually return us to the ‘Robber Baron’ era.

What the public wants is a government that responds to their needs, and not government that responds according to ideology and academic theories.

But please, push the GOP even further to the right. I’ll enjoy watching you dopes marginalize yourselves even further.

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Based upon the Libs response to my heartfelt anger at the pseudo-conservative lying filth, they are still preferable to you gents. You intrepret honest anger as ‘rats fleeing a ship’. Well, if the captain of the ship lied to you and was a phony, should you STAY on the ship? Libs and logic are even further apart than lying Republicans.

And Brad, when you prattle on about serving the needs of the public (which is simply a phony made up word for a group of people), you mean that you want someone to be a servant and another to be a master. Can we guess which one you want to be? My 17 year old students are one hell of a lot more honest and intelligent than you.
You’re stupid enough to believe that prattle that some leftist nutjob prof taught you — mores the pity.

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I thought you were a real Bush Dead-Ender. But instead, you wanna Cut & Run.

Bitter, hateful, whiner, cuckoo.

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Plus, it took you six years to decide that you don’t like George W. Bush??? That means you’re also not very bright, or you can’t think for yourself (or both).

Face it, if the GOP had won big on Tuesday, you would have never started this thread. You’re just a sore loser, with no credibility and not much integrity.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I publicly renounce my support of this coward effective immediately. He is a phony. He came in as a conservative but is nothing of the sort. He is a Lib. I also denounce the Republican D0-NOTHING Congress — no term limits, increased spending and waste, no social security reform,…

They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.

I say we take a giant fucking bulldozer and push the whole rotten pile into the Potomac!!

Headhunter[/quote]

I had those same feelings about 6 years ago and I never went back. Glad to see someone else who has had enough of the crimminals in D.C.

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[quote]Brad61 wrote:
Plus, it took you six years to decide that you don’t like George W. Bush??? That means you’re also not very bright, or you can’t think for yourself (or both).

Face it, if the GOP had won big on Tuesday, you would have never started this thread. You’re just a sore loser, with no credibility and not much integrity.[/quote]

Well, thanks for the insults, but why should I consider your opinion at all? You’re obviously some dumbass college punk, sitting in his dorm, trashing people on the net, in between whacking off to some gay porn site. You swallowed the whole lib line of shit and regurgitate same here. For what else you swallow, well, that’s another site.

For your info, junior, I’ve ripped on GWB long before this but finally had enough. The Republicans have lost their soul and the Dem/libs never had one to begin with. You are in this latter camp, so you should know all about that.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Based upon the Libs response to my heartfelt anger at the pseudo-conservative lying filth, they are still preferable to you gents. You intrepret honest anger as ‘rats fleeing a ship’. Well, if the captain of the ship lied to you and was a phony, should you STAY on the ship?[/quote]

It took you 6 fucking years to notice?

I could’ve told you in 2000 that Bush was a moron.

Would we stay on the ship? Hell, we never even boarded that sinking raft in the first place. Don’t be pissed at us because you got played like a stupid tool.

If only your Democratic party was able to get its act together and stop proposing pathetic uncharismatic losers like Gore and Kerry, you wouldn’t be in that mess.

If Clinton had been allowed to go for a third term, Bush would’ve been a forgotten name come December 1999. Hell, you might still have your WTC towers too.

[quote]And Brad, when you prattle on about serving the needs of the public (which is simply a phony made up word for a group of people), you mean that you want someone to be a servant and another to be a master. Can we guess which one you want to be? My 17 year old students are one hell of a lot more honest and intelligent than you.
You’re stupid enough to believe that prattle that some leftist nutjob prof taught you — mores the pity.[/quote]

This is so stupid, I’ll stop wasting my time right here.

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[quote]Brad61 wrote:
“Pure” conservativism like what HH is lamenting, is dead in the water, as far as a useful system of governance.

“Pure” conservatism is a rigid ideology, and is not responsive to real-world events, rapidly shifting events, and the needs of the public. Sorry but your little ideological playbook isn’t more important than serving the needs of the public. And the voters will let you know that.

This rigid ideology is how we ended up with tax cuts for the rich (the Trickle Down Economics fantasy), at the very same time as a declaration of a Global War On Terror (we’ve never had tax cuts during a war before). Because according to the Right Wing playbook, tax cuts for the rich are the most important thing ever.

Rigid ideology is also how the Right Wing screwed up the Katrina response, too. Because according to the playbook, one of the most important goals is privitizing the federal government. It’s even more important to privitize the government, according to these loons, than responding to a huge disaster where people are dying.

Sure there might be some useful aspects of a rational conservatism that can be employed, for example the idea of limiting the size of the federal government. Despite the right wing spin, Liberals want to keep limits on the size and scope of the government. Nobody with any sense wants to see the government balloon in size, or trusts the government completely.

But just simply “limiting” the size of the federal government is not what the Far Right wants… the Far Right wants to privitize everything, and eliminate federal government completely, except for the military. For example they want to eliminate the Dept of Education, they don’t believe in public education.

The Far Right wants to get rid of the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and so on. The Far Right pretends that the mythical “free market” will protect consumers from the ENRONS of the world. What the Far Right wants, would actually return us to the ‘Robber Baron’ era.

What the public wants is a government that responds to their needs, and not government that responds according to ideology and academic theories.

But please, push the GOP even further to the right. I’ll enjoy watching you dopes marginalize yourselves even further.[/quote]

As a right-wing, working-class conservative, I only have one question…

Since when do you get to define “pure” conservatism(whatever the hell that made up term is)?

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[quote]Brad61 wrote:
Plus, it took you six years to decide that you don’t like George W. Bush??? That means you’re also not very bright, or you can’t think for yourself (or both).
[/quote]

Indeed. You didn’t come to this conclusion after the prescription drug plan, after discretionary spending increases outpaced LBJ, after Katrina, after news of how badly Iraq has been managed came out? Wow.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I publicly renounce my support of this coward effective immediately. He is a phony. He came in as a conservative but is nothing of the sort. He is a Lib. I also denounce the Republican D0-NOTHING Congress — no term limits, increased spending and waste, no social security reform,…

They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.

I say we take a giant fucking bulldozer and push the whole rotten pile into the Potomac!!

Headhunter[/quote]

I’m curious to know what happened recently that changed your mind. This has all been painfully obvious.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I publicly renounce my support of this coward effective immediately. He is a phony. He came in as a conservative but is nothing of the sort. He is a Lib. I also denounce the Republican D0-NOTHING Congress — no term limits, increased spending and waste, no social security reform,…

They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.

I say we take a giant fucking bulldozer and push the whole rotten pile into the Potomac!!

Headhunter[/quote]

HH,

WTF is this about?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I publicly renounce my support of this coward effective immediately. He is a phony. He came in as a conservative but is nothing of the sort. He is a Lib. I also denounce the Republican D0-NOTHING Congress — no term limits, increased spending and waste, no social security reform,…

They had every chance in the world to put this country back on the right track. They ALL chose to go after a psychopath dictator instead, and couldn’t even do that correctly.

I say we take a giant fucking bulldozer and push the whole rotten pile into the Potomac!!

Headhunter[/quote]

Bush isn’t a lib (tax and spend) nor is he a classic conservative (tax less, spend less), he’s a neo-con (borrow and spend).

Neo-con’s are easily the worst of the bunch.

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[quote]storeydp wrote:
Bush isn’t a lib (tax and spend) nor is he a classic conservative (tax less, spend less), he’s a neo-con (borrow and spend).
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This is nit-picking, but… Spending is mainly decided by Congress, true that Bush failed to veto any spending bills whatsoever, but the blame falls primarily on Congress. Bush deserves blame for not using his veto though.

I also disagree that this irresponsible spending makes Congress into neoconservatives. The GOP is repesented by various types of conservatives, a spectrum.

Conservatives just use issues like Small Government and spending caps as a campaign gimmick. When they can actually control the flow of taxpayer dollars, they’ll spend like crazy. They’re just big talkers, but when it comes to following through, they don’t deliver.

And Bush’s tax breaks for the rich only made the spending worse apparently. Someone at one of the right wing think tanks (Cato Institute maybe) did a study, and said he thinks that tax cuts probably caused MORE government spending rather than less, because tax cuts required increasing the debt ceiling. (Congress voted to raise the federal deficit limit, five times in the last 6 years. And that vote was along party lines, if i recall correctly, with the GOP being pro-deficit increase, and the Dems voting against). In other words, spending seemed painless to Congress, because all that spending was going onto a credit card, so to speak. The GOP-led Congress never tried to balance a budget. There was no deficit cap forcing Congress to be fiscally responsible and that opened the spending floodgates.

It would be like going to the supermarket with 20 dollars in cash in your pocket, versus a credit card with no limits. People with a credit card will typically spend more, than somebody on a fixed budget.