I believe this may be a byproduct of the people you’re talking to. Political affiliation exists on a spectrum/fluid medium and not all those who affiliate with the left are so unreasonable. The problem with arguing about politics is the mere fact that vested political ideologies tend to boil down to fundamental core values/beliefs. As a result arguing about politics tends to be rather emotionally charged as one may infer an argument to indicate “he thinks my beliefs are stupid and/or unimportant”. I’ll admit I’ve been fairly unreasonable within the past in relation to some of my vested beliefs, but with age I’ve started to realise the world isn’t nearly as “black and white” as I initially thought it was.
Want to meet some REALLY unreasonable people? Try talking politics with privileged, woke, hipster college kids… It’s a nightmare.
As an autistic individual my lack of ability to interpret tone, body language and subtle cues has gotten me in trouble before
We can use a real example, not a fictional one. Terry Crews, a black man and thus a member of the aggrieved party, goes on Tv and says all black lives matter, whether killed by a cop or another black person. That is heretical and he gets abuse from Don Lemon in the interview and the Twitterverse… including from white people.
Because the organization is cheaply using the phrase to hide an unpopular political agenda. An agenda which starts with destroying the nuclear family.
If I called my organization “Child Abuse Terrible”, but my agenda was about, for example, wiping out inner cities, the organization would have its opponents and rightly so. It would be hard for those opponents to just shut up about it. But I could call them child abusers, end the argument right there, and continue raising billions.
Moreover if the issue sacred to BLM was merely whether “black lives mattered”, then everybody in the country would know the names David Dorn and Bennell Trammell. But those were blacks whose needless, disgusting deaths apparently don’t matter. Among many, many more.
Absolutely, people are the same assholes they have always been but there is a few things that are different that change the ball game.
In the 70s, I can choose to stay the fuck out of a lot of these things but today you can find yourself in the middle of something with no awareness of some shit about to go down.
You can also have what you said completely twisted and get fucked up by someone with zero exposure to what you said.
This could happen in the 70s but typically someone might stick up for you or you would hear what was going on and try get ontop of it.
You can end up with no opportunity to defend yourself. Generally, if you talked smack in the 70s and someone is going to teach your ass a lesson they had to weigh up the risk because they might end up with their ass kicked too. Not today, you can bring someone down, be completely wrong and there is no repercussions for the “accuser”
The ability to control information and to twist it is at a new level today. We werent as sophisticated with technology or psychology. The ability for a few to control the thinking of many, many people to drive their agenda is nothing like ever before.
People defendinf this are the ones on the “right” side - that should send alarm bells to anyone - but all power corrupts and the trend towards where we are and where we are going is accelerating - we should all be concerned that so many people feel they cannot speak their minds - particularly when most are not just being assholes about it.
Some friends of mine will often ask “Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?” when someone is charging too hard with a point about something as a sign to examine your motives and think about what you’re doing to the people around you.
Of course the knee jerk answer is Both!
So through out the US now we have a whole bunch of people who want to be right, and none (very very few) are actually happy. They’re just yelling past each other, and even if one side wins, it’s not over. Racial tension is going to continue to increase. The violence and death will continue to accumulate, and eventually it will explode in mass violence again.
Well it certainly would help if people had that translator built in, but unfortunately they do not. Someone makes an emotional appeal, someone combats it with a logical appeal where linguistically both are correct.
This is why I am not a fan of sloganeering. It requires the recipient of that message to understand first that it’s an emotional appeal, and second that all the person with the slogan wants is affirmation of their feelings.
That is a complicated series of information processing that most people simply do not possess.
So in this series what do we have:
You can go through it like that or:
Protester: “Here’s more shit you need to care about.”
Other guy: “I have enough problems. Leave me alone, I figured that issue out when I was a kid.”
Retaliation occurs.
People don’t instinctively know when somebody is making an emotional plea. Combating it with a logical statement should be perfectly reasonable, but for some reason in this day and age, we have regressed to the point where we act like babies when someone does not affirm our emotional distress.
The dirty little secret I figured out a long time ago is that nobody gives a fuck about you. They just don’t. They don’t see your shirt, they don’t care what loud music you are playing out of your car, what color your hair is, most importantly, they don’t care what you think. They only care if you invade their space and bother them. And if you entice them to react, they usually will.
Aren’t you a teacher? You don’t seem unreasonable. We’ve definitely got differences regarding political affiliation, but none of your outlined, vested ideology on here seemed unreasonable or extreme to me.
The most infuriating, blatant inability to reason with these kids typically revolves around the prospect of certain “cultural practices”. I’m all for accepting different cultures, religious practices etc within reason. But if an element of someones culture involves say… female genital mutilation, legitimately oppressing women, ostracising certain communities etc then it’s totally not on. Yet you’ll get these hipster kids telling you that you just don’t “get it”; that I’m ignorant and we need to blindly accept all practices present within other cultures seemingly no matter the rammifications entailed.
These are the same guys who are super pro LGBTQI rights (as am I), but they can’t seem to fathom why it’s unacceptable to showcase disdain towards abhorrent, barbaric, discriminatory practices present within certain third world nations. Things might not always be black and white and traditionalistic practices do exist within different cultures, but I think we can agree that blatantly toxic, outdated and inherently harmful practices should definitely be ostracised. A sense of morality over something like not allowing women to drive or mutilating girls isn’t subjective… it’s black and white, blatantly fucking wrong…
The hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me… It really grinds my gears
Texas Christian University head coach Gary Patterson has apologized for his “unacceptable” use of the n-word, even though he only used it while trying to get a player to stop using the word
Oh okay. I’d say no. If I walk up to a black person and say “you’re a n****r” or “you’re a n-word” I wouldn’t expect them to take one better, just that the latter would throw them off, haha.
