[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
[quote]h0nkey46 wrote:
ha ya I was joking about that Liquid you look hella good. I would agree with a lot of what you have to say here. However I feel your judgment is biased, being a power lifter/body builder. A young woman who runs on the treadmill for exercise will judge differently than yourself.
As far as validating my intelligence and you throwing out a claim with no evidence to support it; Having a college degree from Oregon State University doesn’t prove that I am intelligent, however it does show I have enough brains to do what most people can’t/don’t. Can’t argue with that. Seeing as you row, I am assuming you are a collegiate athlete, you know this. The whole intelligence piece was in regards to having a legit conversation with a woman, being mature enough to not think only with my dick. For example in my original story, I had no intentions of hooking up w/ the girl, She was going to Vegas to visit her b/f…that throws all Anonym’s nonsense out the window right there.
I just feel that it is ignorant to state that you cannot tell I workout. Most people I am around (family, friends, co-workers) end up asking about nutrition and exercise…they wouldn’t be asking me questions if I looked like Mccully Coulkin or whatever that douches name is. When you look better than the majority, people notice. We (most t-men), are outliers among the general population. You have to look outside of the box we call T-Nation and your power lifting clubs.
And when I say I look better than a lot of the “big” guys on here, obviously that isn’t everyone, I would imagine you are smart (and secure) enough to know I am not referring to people w/ physiques like yours. You look good (better than myself) and in all reality, if we were to sit down somewhere (obviously not gonna happen) I would love to discuss nutrition/exercise with you. You do a better job taking care of your physique than I do, and I envy that.[/quote]
My blanket statement of having to qualify on intelligence is no more off-basis then you simply stating you are intelligent no? Again those who speak loudest about how intelligent they are, are quite often not very intelligent. Just something I’ve noticed over the years both with work, and as a coach. Parents often tell me how smart their children are and I often think in my head they’re some of the dumbest on the team. Though I am no longer a collegiate athlete (well out of school), I do understand that a degree is something to be prided on, though even that has become less so these days. Where a collegiate degree used to truly mean something, it has now become the norm and graduate/PhD work is now the only academia considered “special”. And I agree with your approach to women. No tricks and games needed - though I will say I have done that as well just to see how far one could push it and how much BS would be believed so I’m not a saint by any stretch of the imagination.
Regarding my assessment of saying it’d be hard pressed to determine whether or not you worked out if just wearing a t-shirt…I stand by it. Your friends/family may ask you for advice, but chances are they KNOW you go to the gym and you do talk about it with them. Me, someone who doesn’t know you, and only has your profile picture to go on, can only give you a non-biased and non-interactive based assessment. I’ve got a friend who talks about building websites all the time. I’ve never actually seen one of his sites, but I believe he builds them and if I need one built I’ll go to him. This is similar to you in the sense that you may talk the lifestyle, and so people just go to you for advice even though you do not necessarily have the visual aspects to back up said advice (though this is of course not the only determining factor in determining whether someone should or shouldn’t give advice or if said advice is valid).
I’m not some bodybuilder monstrosity by any means but I’d say very few people would question whether or not I train - no matter the clothing I’m wearing or not wearing. At 5’8"/205 I’m not the biggest nor am I the leanest but I have enough of a presence that people know I train. When I’m down towards my rowing weight (165) - and when racing I race at some of the highest levels one can - I’m sure in a t-shirt I don’t look like a train unless I were to wear an XS or something. Again most people that “look” like they train have attributable size. Being skinny or just “in shape” in a sea of fat people doesn’t really speak volumes. Having decent size and being relatively lean - not even Ryan Reynolds lean will go further in having people say you look like you train (in clothes) - obviously Ryan Reynolds would hold the advantage most of the time without a shirt on in today’s society.[/quote]
LOL at the parents! That is typical tho. I agree, a college degree is a fucking joke. I tell my friends not to do it unless they are doing engineering/doctor or something leading directly into a good job. For the third time, I was not claiming that I am intelligent, I am a goofy, laid back mother fucker who has his own demons. What I did say is that I am at least smarter than most in the sense that I had the courage/motivation/brains to go out and GET my degree. Hell, some of my friends don’t even think about what they are doing next week!
I guess it comes down to the fact that again, you are a rather large dude, who judges based off yourself and people around you (likely other power lifters, who tend to be larger dudes). When it comes to physique tho, as TC says, it is convex vs concave curves, which I have both. I don’t have a problem with my physique, and I would be willing to bet that most women would say I have a great physique as well. No? 10 lbs of muscle mass would be glorious tho!! We all have room for work, and I appreciate your input. I say, we agree to disagree, even though I think we pretty much have come to an agreement overall. Both of us are happy w/ out physiques (i assume), so this pissing contest is going nowhere lol.
Carb theories in off season liquid (offseason meaning not rowing)??? You look really solid in your pics, I tend to get soft w/ my carbs.
TC reference - http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_testosterone_principles_most_bodybuilders_look_like_crap&cr=
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