Am I an A-Hole?

[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
chinadoll wrote:

My other point. When I was single, I had both single and married male friends. When I had a car issue or needed “guy” help, I’d call my single guy friends for help. Never ever ever would I EVER call any of my married male friends to help me.

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

This is very noble.

This is a load of shit.

I agree with jacross 100%. Why the fuck is it noble to not really be friends with a friend? Do their fat ugly wives get jealous of your boobs or something?

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And the ignorance and stupidity of the young boys and punks who now permeate this site never ceases to amaze me.

Go back to school and learn some simple reading and comprehention.

What boring and unintelligent replies.
Grow some brain muscle for your own sake - this is highly unatractive to a female.
I’m out of here.

[quote]jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
chinadoll wrote:

My other point. When I was single, I had both single and married male friends. When I had a car issue or needed “guy” help, I’d call my single guy friends for help. Never ever ever would I EVER call any of my married male friends to help me.

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

This is very noble.

This is a load of shit.[/quote]

But before I go here is to illustrate to you something not noble.

And it is desreptectful and simple enough for you to comprehend at your level of existence.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
ThatGirl77 wrote:

Please don’t hold your wife accountable for her behavior. She’s stressed.

I don’t understand this. When do we EVER hear, “Don’t hold your husband responsible for his actions…he’s stressed.” WTF?

Why doesn’t this shit work BOTH WAYS?

If women expect to get free passes for how they act based on their wild emotions and modd swings, then men should be getting a free pass when a FRIEND needs some help and we actually freaking help them.[/quote]

My favorite sports team just lost! I’m going to throw shit and scream irrationaly!

[quote]deanosumo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ThatGirl77 wrote:

Please don’t hold your wife accountable for her behavior. She’s stressed.

I don’t understand this. When do we EVER hear, “Don’t hold your husband responsible for his actions…he’s stressed.” WTF?

Why doesn’t this shit work BOTH WAYS?

If women expect to get free passes for how they act based on their wild emotions and modd swings, then men should be getting a free pass when a FRIEND needs some help and we actually freaking help them.

My favorite sports team just lost! I’m going to throw shit and scream irrationaly!

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Hey, who can blame you!? I know you had better not be held responsible for your actions. You could just be having a bad hair day!

[quote]Jillybop wrote:
I am telling you AGAIN that no woman with a 4 month old baby, a 3 year old and recent kidney stone surgery should be held accountable for her actions!

You guys have no idea how hard that is physically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally. She needs rest and TLC, and probably knows it’s not likely with 2 little ones (as good of a guy as Derek is). Feeling like total shit and seeing no light at the end of the tunnel is not a good place to be, trust me.
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If this were an isolated incident, I might even be on board with you as far as the “not in her right mind” thing, but derek has already stated that this has been an ongoing problem with his wife since the word “go”.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
buffalokilla wrote:
jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
chinadoll wrote:

My other point. When I was single, I had both single and married male friends. When I had a car issue or needed “guy” help, I’d call my single guy friends for help. Never ever ever would I EVER call any of my married male friends to help me.

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

This is very noble.

This is a load of shit.

I agree with jacross 100%. Why the fuck is it noble to not really be friends with a friend? Do their fat ugly wives get jealous of your boobs or something?

And the ignorance and stupidity of the young boys and punks who now permeate this site never ceases to amaze me.

Go back to school and learn some simple reading and comprehention.

What boring and unintelligent replies.
Grow some brain muscle for your own sake - this is highly unatractive to a female.
I’m out of here.

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Alpha, I love ya to death girl, but I’m on board with these guys. I said pretty much the same thing, I just took umpteen paragraphs to say it.

Try not to hate me.

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.
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I made an isolated comment on this aspect of her nature. I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Chinadol’s comments. I made a single, isolated comment on this particular aspect of her nature.

I think it is noble on her part to go out of her way not to put her married friends in compromising situations when she has [b]other[/b]options available to her. As we all know, no one is perfect and all it takes is the perfect moment and the perfect circumnstances for natural feelings to arise, and arise they do. It is noble of her to avoid their rising in the first place.

I am not a coward but I don’t make a habit of walking in a lonely park at 3am exposing myself to potential pshycopaths just to prove it - that would in fact reveal a gross disrespect to life, not courage.[quote]

Alpha, I love ya to death girl, but I’m on board with these guys. I said pretty much the same thing, I just took umpteen paragraphs to say it.

Try not to hate me.[/quote]

I agree with all your comments and I disagree with Chinadol’s analogy. It was flawed at best and it has no bearing on derek’s situation but I was only making a passing comment on her nature. I saw something beautiful about her character and made a passing comment on it.

This is why I mentioned reading comprehention.

And since I am feeling agressive today, the lack of respect, lack of intelligence, humor amd depth with the first shallow, hollow post from the T-Asshole jacross, made me overreact and YES, I hold myself accountable for it. I have a low level of tolerance for the “wanna be” testosterone teens that are flooding the site lately. Some are funny but when all the above ingredients are missing it makes me want to exterminate them. But I will be the bigger person and shrugg it off and say, hey;

Welcome to Teen-Nation.

P.S. On the other hand I am enjoying your posts as usual and Professor X’s sense of humor and logic…so don’t mind me and by all means do carry on.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
chinadoll wrote:

My other point. When I was single, I had both single and married male friends. When I had a car issue or needed “guy” help, I’d call my single guy friends for help. Never ever ever would I EVER call any of my married male friends to help me.

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

This is very noble.

This is a load of shit.

But before I go here is to illustrate to you something not noble.

And it is desreptectful and simple enough for you to comprehend at your level of existence.

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Calm down Alpha F, no need to make these men look like little boys just yet. You’re right, they are looking at things from the wrong perspective and not understanding afuckin thing the women are saying, as usual. Instead of trying to understand the womens point of view, they try to make logic of the situation.

That is great for dealing with a man to man problem. But a pile of crap for dealing with a woman. They only perpetuate the problem by trying to make sense of their actions and disregarding the womans feelings. Men are only men, they don’t know every fuckin thing. They make mistakes all the time, even though unintentional and most of the time unconclusional, they do it and then try to justify it.

If men realized that WOMEN CARE ABOUT PEOPLE LISTENING TO THEM AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR FEELINGS and not making logical conclusions to what the man did was right or wrong… then they wouldn’t have this problem in the first place. Women don’t give a fuck about logic, excuses, what’s right or what’s wrong. They care about feelings and people understanding their feelings.

If you can’t contimplate that for a few seconds, I say good luck in your relationship failures.

Look if you’re in a relationship with a woman, you can’t treat her like a man. We want answers and conclusions and things that make sense to us. We want justifications. Its your responsibility as a man to tend to your wifes needs… NO MATTER WHAT. Either do that, or be a lonely fucking man.

If a man could figure out a logical way to let his wife cheat on him… he would for christ sake. A woman throws all that horseshit logic out the
window and sees the whole picture for what it is.

Now, if your woman says that 2+2 = 3,4 or 5 depending on what she wants it to be. Then goddam it, that’s exactly what the fuck it means. Accept that, or else you better find another woman that you can understand. You’re supposed to be on your womans side of every problem she has. You don’t take sides in a relationship.

There is no me vs you. there is only an us and lets do it together. every time your wife has a problem, YOU have that problem too fellas. Most of the time she doesn’t want you to solve it, she wants you to understand it. Is any of this sinking in yet? If so, learn to relate with your woman or she has every right to be upset. I’ve mentioned this before… but, I had to agree with my wife that she is actually alergic to water(certain water).

You have all day long to agree or disagree with what makes SENSE or doesn’t make sense with a man to man discussion. When it comes to your woman, you better goddam well learn how to listen to her or you won’t have her for very long. Would you rather be “right”; or actually think you’re right, as a man or try to “understand” your woman and still have her at the end of the day.

Toss your bullshit “logic” aside with women fellas. They don’t give a fuck all about that shit. You better learn how to relate to a womans problems without using a mans tactics for relating with men. You don’t talk to and understand a 2 year old the same way you do a 30 year old. The same goes for a woman, you don’t try to treat her like a man and expect her to “get it”.

“I can see how you would be alergic to water, sure. I feel so bad for you that you have to watch what kind of water you drink. I’m sorry baby” -GHF

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

I made an isolated comment on this aspect of her nature. I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Chinadol’s comments. I made a single, isolated comment on this particular aspect of her nature.

I think it is noble on her part to go out of her way not to put her married friends in compromising situations when she has [b]other[/b]options available to her. As we all know, no one is perfect and all it takes is the perfect moment and the perfect circumnstances for natural feelings to arise, and arise they do. It is noble of her to avoid their rising in the first place.

I am not a coward but I don’t make a habit of walking in a lonely park at 3am exposing myself to potential pshycopaths just to prove it - that would in fact reveal a gross disrespect to life, not courage.

Alpha, I love ya to death girl, but I’m on board with these guys. I said pretty much the same thing, I just took umpteen paragraphs to say it.

Try not to hate me.

I agree with all your comments and I disagree with Chinadol’s analogy. It was flawed at best and it has no bearing on derek’s situation but I was only making a passing comment on her nature. I saw something beautiful about her character and made a passing comment on it.

This is why I mentioned reading comprehention.

And since I am feeling agressive today, the lack of respect, lack of intelligence, humor amd depth with the first shallow, hollow post from the T-Asshole jacross, made me overreact and YES, I hold myself accountable for it. I have a low level of tolerance for the “wanna be” testosterone teens that are flooding the site lately. Some are funny but when all the above ingredients are missing it makes me want to exterminate them. But I will be the bigger person and shrugg it off and say, hey;

Welcome to Teen-Nation.

P.S. On the other hand I am enjoying your posts as usual and Professor X’s sense of humor and logic…so don’t mind me and by all means do carry on.

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I’m with ya Alpha F, I understand where you’re coming from. i understand certain circumstances will drive a womans hormones through the roof and besides that… her chemistry could be all off and send her through the roof, even over the littlest thing. Please don’t eat the small men, we need them to do all those chores we don’t like to do.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
ThatGirl77 wrote:

Please don’t hold your wife accountable for her behavior. She’s stressed.

I don’t understand this. When do we EVER hear, “Don’t hold your husband responsible for his actions…he’s stressed.” WTF?

Why doesn’t this shit work BOTH WAYS?

If women expect to get free passes for how they act based on their wild emotions and modd swings, then men should be getting a free pass when a FRIEND needs some help and we actually freaking help them.[/quote]

We already got the free ride X. Just by being a man you don’t have to deal with natural discomforts of being a woman… like having a period every month and cramps and mood swings and chemistry imbalances. We don’t even have to give birth or raise the kids so to speak, the mother takes up almost all that responsibility.

I know, I have a mom that has 5 children and a dad that was a workaholic. He never complained, he knew he had it easier and didn’t have the tougher life. He also worked 60-80 hours a week. Its not to difficult to… wake up, go to work, come home, eat, fuck, sleep, repeat. Most women are multi-tasking and doing it with mutiple discomforts all the time.

The women, even a stay at home mom has the tougher job… emotionally, sometimes physically and most of all appreciativly. They don’t get alot of credit or a paycheck to show for their time put into being a mother or even being a support system to push their man to excel.

Men are naturally capable of taking on such responsibility because we just don’t have as many distractions and the job in and of itself of being a man is just flat out easier. Women do have it tougher, you have to respect that. Its not always easy being a man, but put yourself in a women’s shoes once.

You wouldn’t want to trade places with them after living the luxury life of a man, with no chemical imbalances monthly, no children to tend to 24 hours a day, and on top of that… not being appreciated for your work.

Why would a man ever complain about being physically tired or stressed out, that’s why god gave you those muscles in the first place… so you could handle it? If you think your stressed and physically or emotionally drained… imagine what the women is going through. Trust me, no matter how hard you think your life is, it will never be as hard as a womans… this is why they get the free pass.

You wouldn’t expect a blind man to walk his way around without ever asking for some help. Don’t expect a womans emotions to always be in tact without her asking for some understanding.

To Go heavy fool;

I tried your way. Actually I was that guy for YEARS. As I look back, every relationship I had with your mindset ended up boring, dull, passionless and many times cheated on.

When I wised up and realized my place in life was to live by my rules (with some compromise), follow my heart, be noble even when the costs are high, my relationships have been full of passion, life, mutual respect and loyalty.

I don’t think women want a man as a lapdog. You may avoid conflict. You may never have another disagreement but at what cost?

I feel the more “ideal” you become to a woman, the less she wants you around.

The more moldable you are, the more amenable you are the less your woman will respect you and we all know how THAT turns out.

Respect your woman of course. Compromise when necessary. But scarifice my manhood for her? Out of the question.

You have all day long to agree or disagree with what makes SENSE or doesn’t make sense with a man to man discussion. When it comes to your woman, you better goddam well learn how to listen to her or you won’t have her for very long. Would you rather be “right”; or actually think you’re right, as a man or try to “understand” your woman and still have her at the end of the day.

Toss your bullshit “logic” aside with women fellas. They don’t give a fuck all about that shit. You better learn how to relate to a womans problems without using a mans tactics for relating with men. You don’t talk to and understand a 2 year old the same way you do a 30 year old. The same goes for a woman, you don’t try to treat her like a man and expect her to “get it”.

“I can see how you would be alergic to water, sure. I feel so bad for you that you have to watch what kind of water you drink. I’m sorry baby” -GHF
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I see you understand a woman has issues to deal with that we men have the luxury of avoiding but you sure don’t seem to give them credit for being logical, intellegent beings. Why is that?

Yes, women and men are different but you seem to be saying they are incapable of logic or meaningful thought. Just random, uncontrollable and overrun by emotion. I don’t see them that way. Do you?

[quote]derek wrote:
I see you understand a woman has issues to deal with that we men have the luxury of avoiding but you sure don’t seem to give them credit for being logical, intellegent beings. Why is that?

Yes, women and men are different but you seem to be saying they are incapable of logic or meaningful thought. Just random, uncontrollable and overrun by emotion. I don’t see them that way. Do you?

[/quote] I said that they “don’t care about logic”. Most women are smarter than men by the way. Who said they didn’t use logic? Again, you are trying to rationalize your behavior instead of just tend to your wife. WOMEN arn’t interested in the logic, how does this help her situation? IT DOESN’T… it helps yours.

Be a team player. Tend to your wifes needs more often and you will find that she will tend to yours. Teamwork buddy. Your wife should be your best friend. If she’s not, you will have battles to fight because you are not on the same team.

Do you think there is anybody on this site that lives by their own rules more than me… go read some of my posts and draw a conclusion? The difference is, I tend to every one of my wifes needs because that is who cares about me. I want the love from her in return so I make sure she feels the way she wants to feel NO MATTER WHAT.

You don’t have to become a “pussy” to tend to your wife and understand her. In fact, women love a straight foward no non-sense guy that takes charge and does what he wants… that doesn’t include not tending to your woman and be a cock swinging machismo on her. You swing your dick and knock men out with it, not women. Women, you gently caress their skin.

I’m the kinda of guy that will get himself in a heated argument with another guy over something retarded, break the guy in half that I’m rumbeling with… then carefully turn to see that my wife is alright with the situation and make sure she is cared for and happy as a result of my behavoir. You never bull up to a woman, you use that for men.

For women you better learn the soft hand not the clenched fist. In short you can be as manly as you want and stand tall and be a mans man, but you better also be able to take care of your wife with a delicate touch. She wants the man that will fight for her, not with her.

You have to learn how to relate to diffent people for different reasons. Would I ever insult my wife, hell no. She will lose respect and love for me. IThat in turn hurts me… now I will not reap the benefits of being loved as much as posible by her… not that she knows I insulted her. Would I tell a guy to “get the fuck out of my way” if he was annoying me at the gym?

Hell yes. He doesn’t care about me. My wife cares about me, she will get everything I have and no less. Get your priorities straight. Your wife should come first. Go heavy man, take any weight you can off of your wife. Don’t let your woman take that shit. Be a fucking man and take her pain away.

Being a real man means taking this kind of shit to benefit someone else. This is the greatest gift you have, the love to offer someone else. You have the option to make her feel worse than she already does or be a man and take that weight off of her. Don’t make your woman carry that fuckin shit. You take it. Do you care about her or not? If you do, you will pull that load off of her and accept relationship responsibilty… now you carry that load when you see its too heavy for her.

[quote]derek wrote:

Yes, women and men are different but you seem to be saying they are incapable of logic or meaningful thought. Just random, uncontrollable and overrun by emotion. I don’t see them that way. Do you?
[/quote]

No, I see women as alot smarter than we give them credit for… you just have to listen to the woman, to ever “get this”.

I see men as alot dumber than what they’re given credit for. Women open up your eyes to shit that you will never be able to see as a man. That alone gives them the upperhand. Instead of trying to teach your woman, try learning from her one time… see how much logic they make then.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:

Why? Out of respect for their wives, their children and for their marriages. Because I respect my guy friends and their wives and their marriages, I would never want to put my guy friends into any kind of ackward or questionable-seeming scenario.

I made an isolated comment on this aspect of her nature. I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Chinadol’s comments. I made a single, isolated comment on this particular aspect of her nature.

I think it is noble on her part to go out of her way not to put her married friends in compromising situations when she has [b]other[/b]options available to her. As we all know, no one is perfect and all it takes is the perfect moment and the perfect circumnstances for natural feelings to arise, and arise they do. It is noble of her to avoid their rising in the first place.

I am not a coward but I don’t make a habit of walking in a lonely park at 3am exposing myself to potential pshycopaths just to prove it - that would in fact reveal a gross disrespect to life, not courage.

Alpha, I love ya to death girl, but I’m on board with these guys. I said pretty much the same thing, I just took umpteen paragraphs to say it.

Try not to hate me.

I agree with all your comments and I disagree with Chinadol’s analogy. It was flawed at best and it has no bearing on derek’s situation but I was only making a passing comment on her nature. I saw something beautiful about her character and made a passing comment on it.
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Hey, thanks Alpha F!

Maybe I should have chosen a better analogy (hey, I liked my analogy, but ok…), but I think you all see the intended point, -what if the tables were turned, how would you feel-?

I’m not on either side of the argument, but I do feel it’s healthy and constructive for anyone in a serious relationship when faced with a “relationship ethical” situation, to think about how they would feel if the scenarios were reversed. I learned this from a relationship workshop at my church. It sounds a bit silly, but I have found that it’s a good tool.

And the single male friends scenario. I feel my male friends’ wives, because of my actions, know that they can trust me, and I like it that way, I have formed very deep friendships with a lot of my married male friends’ wives, some of my very best friends I met after my good guy friends married them, which I am so lucky for.

Back to the subject of the OP. This is a bit corny, but in terms of your wife, deal with her using your heart.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:

Most women are smarter than men by the way.
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?

[quote]chinadoll wrote:

Back to the subject of the OP. This is a bit corny, but in terms of your wife, deal with her using your heart.

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Listen to the “WOMEN” bro… they’ll tell you everything you wanna know. You need to learn how to listen to them and apply it. My original quote should have clued you in. You can’t just sya to hell with women because you don’t get along with them all the time… unless you want to be a lonely motherfucker. You also can’t take the situation out on them and crack em’ with a bat because the situation is a giant clusterfuck… all you can do is love your wife no matter what arises. She’s looking for comfort man, not a written statement of why you did what you did and here are your justifications.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
I said that they “don’t care about logic”. Most women are smarter than men by the way. Who said they didn’t use logic? Again, you are trying to rationalize your behavior instead of just tend to your wife. WOMEN arn’t interested in the logic, how does this help her situation? IT DOESN’T… it helps yours.

Be a team player. Tend to your wifes needs more often and you will find that she will tend to yours. Teamwork buddy. Your wife should be your best friend. If she’s not, you will have battles to fight because you are not on the same team.

Do you think there is anybody on this site that lives by their own rules more than me… go read some of my posts and draw a conclusion? The difference is, I tend to every one of my wifes needs because that is who cares about me. I want the love from her in return so I make sure she feels the way she wants to feel NO MATTER WHAT.

You don’t have to become a “pussy” to tend to your wife and understand her. In fact, women love a straight foward no non-sense guy that takes charge and does what he wants… that doesn’t include not tending to your woman and be a cock swinging machismo on her. You swing your dick and knock men out with it, not women. Women, you gently caress their skin.

I’m the kinda of guy that will get himself in a heated argument with another guy over something retarded, break the guy in half that I’m rumbeling with… then carefully turn to see that my wife is alright with the situation and make sure she is cared for and happy as a result of my behavoir. You never bull up to a woman, you use that for men.

For women you better learn the soft hand not the clenched fist. In short you can be as manly as you want and stand tall and be a mans man, but you better also be able to take care of your wife with a delicate touch. She wants the man that can’t fight for her, not with her.

You have to learn how to relate to diffent people for different reasons. Would I ever insult my wife, hell no. She will lose respect and love for me. IThat in turn hurts me… now I will not reap the benefits of being loved as much as posible by her… not that she knows I insulted her. Would I tell a guy to “get the fuck out of my way” if he was annoying me at the gym?

Hell yes. He doesn’t care about me. My wife cares about me, she will get everything I have and no less. Get your priorities straight. Your wife should come first. Go heavy man, take any weight you can off of your wife. Don’t let your woman take that shit. Be a fucking man and take her pain away.

Being a real man means taking this kind of shit to benefit someone else. This is the greatest gift you have, the love to offer someone else. You have the option to make her feel worse than she already does or be a man and take that weight off of her. Don’t make your woman carry that fuckin shit. You take it. Do you care about her or not? If you do, you will pull that load off of her and accept relationship responsibilty… now you carry that load when you see its too heavy for her.

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Whoah, Go Heavy, this is “Chick Porn” all the way!

Your wife must be so happy that she’d do anything for you.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:

Most women are smarter than men by the way.

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Observation Prof… I have no way of prooving this. Purely opinion. But if you have any proof that men are smarter than women… enlighten please.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:

Most women are smarter than men by the way.

?

Observation Prof… I have no way of prooving this. Purely opinion. But if you have any proof that men are smarter than women… enlighten please.[/quote]

I think anyone making a claim that any whole group of people is smarter or dumber than any other entire group of people has some issues they need to work out.