[quote]Jillybop wrote:
I am telling you AGAIN that no woman with a 4 month old baby, a 3 year old and recent kidney stone surgery should be held accountable for her actions!
You guys have no idea how hard that is physically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally. She needs rest and TLC, and probably knows it’s not likely with 2 little ones (as good of a guy as Derek is). Feeling like total shit and seeing no light at the end of the tunnel is not a good place to be, trust me.
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While I don’t think you can just say she cannot be held accountable for her actions I do agree with you.
She is in a tough place and she needs support.
Sometimes supporting the ones you love means taking unfair criticism.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
“Are women so ______ that they can’t accept honesty?”
Does a woman want to know that she looks like dogshit today? Does she need that honesty? I think not. I think you bite your fuckin tongue when need be. Some things are best left unsaid. Does she need to know that she’s a bitch? Yes! There are ways of letting her know that without actually calling her one. whenever you want to be called a “bitch” and feel good about yourself for it, let me know. It will be the first I’ve heard. My wife in particular, does not like to be insulted in anyway. Instead I tell her about all the things that make her great and it tends to make her want to act that way. I don’t tell her everthing that is wrong with her so she can feel worse about herself. I hope I answered your questions and you understand what I meant because I understood what you trying to say and I agree with you.[/quote]
Oh, NOW I get it! You’re NOT supposed to call your wife a bitch or tell her she looks like dogshit.
how do i get something like that and stand up to people the way you do
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Dear fictional alter-ego-type-person:
If you want lessons on how to stand up to people based on your admiration of how some guy ‘stood up’ to a bunch of posters ON THE INTERNET, you may have a tiny bit of a problem.
how do i get something like that and stand up to people the way you do
Dear fictional alter-ego-type-person:
If you want lessons on how to stand up to people based on your admiration of how some guy ‘stood up’ to a bunch of posters ON THE INTERNET, you may have a tiny bit of a problem.
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Funny stuff. At least he was smart enough to log in under a different name.
Jillybop wrote:
I am telling you AGAIN that no woman with a 4 month old baby, a 3 year old and recent kidney stone surgery should be held accountable for her actions!
You guys have no idea how hard that is physically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally. She needs rest and TLC, and probably knows it’s not likely with 2 little ones (as good of a guy as Derek is). Feeling like total shit and seeing no light at the end of the tunnel is not a good place to be, trust me.
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This statement is what caused alot of controversy in the first place. The statement is partially correct. The women should not be held accountable if those actions are not very damaging or worth holding someone accountable for. Water under the bridge, lets move on now. Females get emotional quite often and she had other extenuating circumstances that could have even pushed her over the edge. But, no major damage was done. Nobody got hurt, injured, or died. Derek has patched things up with his wife and is fine now. Whether or not this happens again is up to them, they need to take responsibilty in trying to prevent that.
Now, when should she be held accountable? Never? I disagree. There has to be some point where the actions are more damaging than the situation called for, regardless of the condition. If she’s in that bad of condition that she would injure or kill someone, then she should be receiving treatment and be in a hospital somewhere. Or at least be undergoing some form of counseling.
The accountabilty should be determined on the circumstances of the particular situation. In this case… no need to hold anybody in particular accountable because the damage was not that bad. Better to look for more sources of resolve at this point than punishment. I don’t think neither party did anything too out of the ordinary, so the best bet would be to try to tighten up the relationship a little bit. Work on trusting each other more and providing trust and it should be all gravy. Case closed. Next.
P.S. Surprise her Derek. Remember the little things, are huge relationship treats. A simple six-pack of beer my wife bought me along time ago got me, no woman ever bought me beer before. Wasn’t a big deal to most people, but it was to me.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Body Hammer wrote:
RippedFisique wrote:
how do i get something like that and stand up to people the way you do
Dear fictional alter-ego-type-person:
If you want lessons on how to stand up to people based on your admiration of how some guy ‘stood up’ to a bunch of posters ON THE INTERNET, you may have a tiny bit of a problem.
Funny stuff. At least he was smart enough to log in under a different name.[/quote]
You guys are funny. Add that name to my 6th alter ego. Everytime a poster agrees with you, you get the “it’s his alter-ego” thing. I think the last one was in the “sexy wives” thread. I’m also the two other people that made nice comments about my wife. The one person even had a similiar name “Heavy thrower”… so I must be him, right? The logic in here is at an all-time high. sigh
[quote]derek wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
“Are women so ______ that they can’t accept honesty?”
Does a woman want to know that she looks like dogshit today? Does she need that honesty? I think not. I think you bite your fuckin tongue when need be. Some things are best left unsaid. Does she need to know that she’s a bitch? Yes! There are ways of letting her know that without actually calling her one. whenever you want to be called a “bitch” and feel good about yourself for it, let me know. It will be the first I’ve heard. My wife in particular, does not like to be insulted in anyway. Instead I tell her about all the things that make her great and it tends to make her want to act that way. I don’t tell her everthing that is wrong with her so she can feel worse about herself. I hope I answered your questions and you understand what I meant because I understood what you trying to say and I agree with you.
Oh, NOW I get it! You’re NOT supposed to call your wife a bitch or tell her she looks like dogshit.
Thanks for the tip, that was truly enlightening!
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Wasn’t the point. Does everything have to be wriiten in long division here, or are some of you incapable of doing some thinking on your own? How many posters know about the damage and uselessness of insulting your spouse? Probably all. How many posters actually DO this and never insult their significant other? That percentage just fell quicker than the Republicans approval rating is dropping.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
derek wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
“Are women so ______ that they can’t accept honesty?”
Does a woman want to know that she looks like dogshit today? Does she need that honesty? I think not. I think you bite your fuckin tongue when need be. Some things are best left unsaid. Does she need to know that she’s a bitch? Yes! There are ways of letting her know that without actually calling her one. whenever you want to be called a “bitch” and feel good about yourself for it, let me know. It will be the first I’ve heard. My wife in particular, does not like to be insulted in anyway. Instead I tell her about all the things that make her great and it tends to make her want to act that way. I don’t tell her everthing that is wrong with her so she can feel worse about herself. I hope I answered your questions and you understand what I meant because I understood what you trying to say and I agree with you.
Oh, NOW I get it! You’re NOT supposed to call your wife a bitch or tell her she looks like dogshit.
Thanks for the tip, that was truly enlightening!
Wasn’t the point. Does everything have to be wriiten in long division here, or are some of you incapable of doing some thinking on your own? How many posters know about the damage and uselessness of insulting your spouse? Probably all. How many posters actually DO this and never insult their significant other? That percentage just fell quicker than the Republicans approval rating is dropping.[/quote]
Quick question, in reading your very entertaining battle with various members you continue to refer to your “Pictures”
I have seen a blurry half a arm shot… and a back pic of a 125lb. high school kid.
Did I miss some of your pics, just curious.
And before you launch into a “where the fuck are your pics” rant understand I am not ripping, just curious.
[quote]derek wrote:
Oh, and the snacks? Since you asked! She jusy got home from surgery. It was fairly minor but VERY painful. She had gone 30 hours without sleep, the surgery, then recover pain (2 very large kidney stones). The snacks were soothing I suppose.
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That’s probably why she got upset. She wanted you to be there for her, in her moment of need, and not there for some other chick.
The thought process was probably something like “so her door was smashed open? Well, my gut was just cut open! He should be here with me, not off playing Knight in Shining Armor.”
Normally, I’d say you were obviously in the right to go help your client. I can honestly see where your wife was coming from, though; it’d be a tough call for me to make. It would honestly have depended on how bad she was feeling.
This is a cool thread in that it seems to have even guys thinking about and really discussing relationships. I think it’s healthy.
I don’t want to offend anyone, but I’m making a lighthearted observation…anyone else notice the girls’ posts are kinda ignored by the guys…the guys instead arguing with other GUYS about how women feel and think, rather than asking the GIRLS how women feel and think? Think about it.
[quote]chinadoll wrote:
This is a cool thread in that it seems to have even guys thinking about and really discussing relationships. I think it’s healthy.
I don’t want to offend anyone, but I’m making a lighthearted observation…anyone else notice the girls’ posts are kinda ignored by the guys…the guys instead arguing with other GUYS about how women feel and think, rather than asking the GIRLS how women feel and think? Think about it. :)[/quote]
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[quote]chinadoll wrote:
This is a cool thread in that it seems to have even guys thinking about and really discussing relationships. I think it’s healthy.
I don’t want to offend anyone, but I’m making a lighthearted observation…anyone else notice the girls’ posts are kinda ignored by the guys…the guys instead arguing with other GUYS about how women feel and think, rather than asking the GIRLS how women feel and think? Think about it. :)[/quote]
That is enough out of you. When we want your opinion we will give it to you!
[quote]chinadoll wrote:
I don’t want to offend anyone, but I’m making a lighthearted observation…anyone else notice the girls’ posts are kinda ignored by the guys…the guys instead arguing with other GUYS about how women feel and think, rather than asking the GIRLS how women feel and think? Think about it. :)[/quote]
[quote]chinadoll wrote:
This is a cool thread in that it seems to have even guys thinking about and really discussing relationships. I think it’s healthy.
I don’t want to offend anyone, but I’m making a lighthearted observation…anyone else notice the girls’ posts are kinda ignored by the guys…the guys instead arguing with other GUYS about how women feel and think, rather than asking the GIRLS how women feel and think? Think about it. :)[/quote]
Good catch, CD.
The other thing they did was nitpick a sentence w/o knowing where the emphasis was placed or reading body language, cuz, ya know, it’s the internet and all.
If more people where like that this world would be a better place.[/quote]
Thanks! That is the way I am and always will be. I now know that you cannot be everything to everyone all the time, some sacrifices need to be made.
My wife was experirncing some pain sure. She however was not cut open. It was a kidney stone removal from the ureter and a stint put in temproraily but I’m not splitting hairs, it was a medical procedure.
I for one did not INTEND to ignore the known womens posts. They gave me insight into how a woman thinks.
I think that if GHF’s posts were not so “out there” the thread would’ve stayed on topic.
If I spent the time it would certainly take covering ALL the bases, taking such care not to offend my wife in ANY way, I would be miserable, stressed out and angry. Instead, I realize that I cannot be responsible for every little thing that may set someone off.
Knowing that my wife was upset by me doing what I thought was right, I will try to make it up to her. However I would do it again for anyone that needed my help.
