Alpha's Work II

Like you said, one can only speculate without the video…going off what you have said I think this is the most likely explanation.

Generally, an effective conventional deadlift is quicker off the floor and slows down closer to lockout while a sumo deadlift is slower off the floor (picture squeezing it off the floor) and easier at lockout.

More than likely you started in a relatively good position (i.e. neutral spine, hips fairly low, chest high) but you did not maintain that neutral spine throughout the lift. This could happen either due to upper/lower back rounding during the lift or the hips shooting up at the start of the pull…either would put you out of position at lockout.

This is not a place you want to be; when you approach the last third of the lift the weaker muscles of the upper body are going to have a hard time correcting this postural issue, so recovering to neutral spine (getting chest through, shoulder back) and locking the hips will become much harder.

To remedy this you need to practice more patience off the floor, the weight may move slower for the first few inches but should be much easier at lockout since the spine remains neutral. Many lifters don’t have the upper back and core strength to do this…but I don’t think that’s your issue, you may just be rushing the lift.

Some key cues for the first phase of the lift:

  • chest out, shoulders back
  • shins within an inch of the bar, toes angled slighty outwards
  • neutral spine
  • hips back and as low as is ideal (You don’t neccessarly need to have the hips low but rather as close as possible to their usual position when the bar breaks the floor. Many start with the hips to low but lack the ability to pull from that low so their hips shoot up and wreck the pull.)
  • arms straight and locked

Just a thought.

Alpha, you quoted “Atlas Shrugged” in an earlier post. Have you read the book? Is it good? After playing the game Bioshock, I’m intrigued by the Alyn Rand philosophy…

p.s. your training continues to be an inspiration. Thank you.

Mateus: yea man i have done that, i can rack pull the 640 pretty easily, it is something I am doing mechanically between breaking the ground and lockout…could be my 2 broken Vertebra…not sure… thanks for suggesting though!


Adam F: thanks man, maybe next time! hey did you ever get the PM’s I sent back to you? they wont show up in my sent box…and I am completely unsure why!?!


Power GnP: You, Sir, may have well watched me do the lifts because after analyzing them myself i think you are dead nuts on…Something happens in my head (think Bam-Bam from the flintstones) when I go for weights over 600 lbs, where I think i need to rip it off the floor in order to complete the weight, but, like you said, I think I am just jacking myself up…

either way, if this fixes it and i start getting stronger in DL again…I am going to carve a statue of you and put in in my shower…just sayin…

Thanks so much for the post man! you are truly an unselfish awesome guy!


htargett: Atlas Shrugged is a great book man! yea i have read it, but i honestly liked the Fountainhead a little bit more…you have to invest some life into both though! i think Atlas Shrugged is over 1000 small print pages…Ayn Rand needed a boyfriend…Sheesh…

Check them out man, you wont be disappointed!


Thanks for the posts everyone!

Glad you got some good info!

I was curious–do you ever take a week to ‘deload,’ or are you always trying to beat your previous week?

Happy weekend!

Hey look, you have your own song :slight_smile:

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Mateus: yea man i have done that, i can rack pull the 640 pretty easily, it is something I am doing mechanically between breaking the ground and lockout…could be my 2 broken Vertebra…not sure… thanks for suggesting though!


Adam F: thanks man, maybe next time! hey did you ever get the PM’s I sent back to you? they wont show up in my sent box…and I am completely unsure why!?!


Power GnP: You, Sir, may have well watched me do the lifts because after analyzing them myself i think you are dead nuts on…Something happens in my head (think Bam-Bam from the flintstones) when I go for weights over 600 lbs, where I think i need to rip it off the floor in order to complete the weight, but, like you said, I think I am just jacking myself up…

either way, if this fixes it and i start getting stronger in DL again…I am going to carve a statue of you and put in in my shower…just sayin…

Thanks so much for the post man! you are truly an unselfish awesome guy!


htargett: Atlas Shrugged is a great book man! yea i have read it, but i honestly liked the Fountainhead a little bit more…you have to invest some life into both though! i think Atlas Shrugged is over 1000 small print pages…Ayn Rand needed a boyfriend…Sheesh…

Check them out man, you wont be disappointed!


Thanks for the posts everyone![/quote]

I might give those a read after my exams. Thanks Alpha.

Hey Alpha, have you ever tried setting up the weight so it hangs behind you on pull ups? I did it the other day with a bucket of gravel and swear it worked better. Keep killing it!

Not a problem, just hope something I said can help you in the future. Hope you had a chance to enjoy your weekend and let me know if you need some profile shots for the statue.

Hey Alpha loved your post on Nutrition!Just wanted to know and apoligies if already answered but what is your prefered vegtables for Carbs?By prefered I mean the ones you think are the most beneficial.Also you are a fan of weighted pullups.

Did you ever try really heavy negatives like 1/3 more then your max weight for the pullups as a way to increase your full range weighted pullup numbers?I have a buddy who does this and swears by it.Ha just thinking out loud here keep on shredding!

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Adam F: thanks man, maybe next time! hey did you ever get the PM’s I sent back to you? they wont show up in my sent box…and I am completely unsure why!?!


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No I didn’t mate, I wasn’t sure if you’d had chance to have a look at the PM yet…

*I just checked my settings, I don’t think they were set up properly, if you try again it should work!

MIM: Well, I’d say i deload for a little bit once a year…Because at least once a year for at least a month, i cannot even stand the thought of walking in the gym or eating good…like I would rather do ANYTHING but lift…and during those times i just lay low and do other stuff until i can figure some way to get re inspired, than i start hitting it hard again for the rest of the year.

Oh and that song was awesome! At least if i am going to have a song it was a cool one!

Thanks for that and thanks for stopping by!


Htarget: Sure man! I am getting a few PMs from people asking about what books to read so i am going to start putting some recommendations for books, and reviews of ones I finish on here…i hope it helps…


EB2012: No I have not man, but I may just give it a try tomorrow! thanks for the tip!


Power GnP: thanks again for the tip man! I am telling you, if it works, I will be asking for poses!


law8: Well man, I really like to eat green leafy vegetables like spinach and broccoli because they have a lot of fiber which helps keep me full longer…

And I will have to give it a try on the pull-ups! i am looking for anything to get those numbers up higher! thanks so much for the tip man!


Adam F: What the heck man, I wrote you this long PM back about your program and it didn’t show that I ever sent it, then I sent you another one asking if you got it and those didn’t show that they sent either?? I am going to try and send you a test PM…Hopefully we can get this working and i can help you out man!


Hey, I just got back in town and am beat!!! But i thank all of you for your posts and for your questions! it means a lot!

By the way, I just re-read “Talent is Overrated” By Geoff Colvin and “the talent code” both of which are great and I tink they compliment each other…They are both basically explaining how people become great at their chosen fields and how to practice correctly…

Both of them make it awfully hard to make any excuses at all about not being the best at stuff…I really liked them, and if you are interested, you should check them out…

I’m hitting the gym hard tomorrow on my way home from work, i am going to try some of the things you guys mentioned on Pull-ups, maybe it will help! I appreciate the tips!

Don’t know if you got my reply to your last PM Alpha, hope we’re not having the same issues.

“You can do more; you’re better than that. You can dare to dream
even bigger, aim higher, do more, be more, earn more and go
further. If nobody else believes you can do it, I believe you can
do it, I believe you can. But whatever you do, commit with all your
heart and don’t stop until you get where you want to go.”

  • George Foreman

Power GnP: I think I have your reply…I have written you most of one, i just have not sent it yet…But I did just get another PM from another member who says that they have been sending me stuff and it doesn’t seem to be coming through…I am fairly sure it is a T-Nation problem because I am still getting plenty of messages and am sending plenty of them every day…Something must be jacked up…


The Dude: i love it man! great quote!


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But I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, his greatest fulfillment of all he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

-Vince Lombardi

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17 May 2010: Training

Strength: Giant Sets:

1a. Weighted pull Ups: 90/3, 115/3, 135/3, 155/3, 180/3, 190/3 (PR), 205/2 (PR)…
1b. Standing BB Military Press: 135/3, 185/3, 235/3, 255/2, 275/1 (would have been a PR – But I used too much leg drive), 275/Fail, 270/Fail
1c. Front Squats: 225/3, 275/3, 315/3, 365/3, 405/1, 425/1, 445/Fail…My back is too Jacked to be playing like this

Extract: Complexes: 8 reps each exercise without putting down the bar. 3 Sets 95lbs, 105lbs, 115lbs.

Deads
Bent BB Rows
Hang cleans
Front Squats
Military Press
Back squats
Good Mornings
Sprint 400 Meters


Notes:

-Well I felt pretty good about the weighted Pull ups and setting some PR’s there, and I tried loading the weight behind me, but it was just too awkward trying to get it on and off! i can barely get it together while I can see it!

Here are some vids of it today:

Weighted Pull-ups: BW + 190 (4 Plates and a 10) x3

and BW + 205 (4 Plates and a 25) x2

-And the Military presses were going well, and I thought I had a PR, but upon reviewing the vid, it was WAY too much leg drive to count for anything…maybe next time… Here’s the Vid

BB Standing Military Press 275x1, but with WAY too much leg drive

-and front squats: Well I was glad to see 425 go up, but my back did not have it in it for the 445… I dropped deep, came up about halfway where a lot of the pressure goes to your lower back and it just gave…I have the strength in my legs easily, but my core will not stabilize it…

-As far as the back goes…I think i have a genuine injury going on, and doing all of this heavy stuff is not helping at all! i am now not only having the normal lock ups in my lower back and butt, but and getting a lot of weird pain in the front of my pelvis as well…this cannot be good…we will see how it continues to develop…

-oh and I have a semi-sprained wrist from this past weekend…there was a dare, a cliff, a back flip, and a mud puddle…that’s 4 against one…and the 4 of them got the best of me…and my wrist was the causality…but hilarity did ensue!

i hope you all like the vids…if i’m really hurt, they may be the last for a while

Great job on the pull ups man. Hope the injuries don’t halt your progress too much. How much difference do you find on the strength work now you have cut out the insert? Just wondering because I have some goals I want to reach by the end of Summer and am just wondering how much the complexes at the start impact on my lifts. For now I am definitely carrying on the conditioning work, but if my numbers are not going where I want them to be I may drop the insert towards the end of Summer.

nice lifts. Did you get my PM?

Impressive as always Alpha. I didn’t think there was much leg drive in that press - the way you described it I was expecting something much worse, you can’t be far away from achieving that weight with a strict press!

Bad news about your back, I have been in a similar position to yourself - I had fractures of my L5/S1…so whenever my back twinges or doesn’t feel right I have to rest until it’s ready again. Im sure you’ll be sorted with some treatment!

Ironwarrior: Hey thanks man! You know, i really do not think that the inserts take much away from my strength stuff at all…to be completely honest, I think they may add a little bit. I think because they kind of get me in the right mindset for work, and it would be an understatement to say that they “warm me up”…I was truly thinking of throwing them back in for the rest of my strength maxing out stuff…I would say try both and see which works better for you


Mateus: Thanks man, but no i definitely did not! and I have been getting other people’s PM’s…I have no idea if some of these are being modded or what…if they are I have no idea why…I sent 2 others yesterday that didn’t go through…

So if you are reading this saying, “Man, that Alpha guy is such a jerk! he never wrote me back”, it probably isn’t true…I have no idea what is happening with it all!!!


Adam F: Thanks man, but I like to keep things pretty strict so that all of the people trying to rip me down don’t have much ammo…

Yea it is my L3 and L5 that are jacked…I am thinking of trying to find an ART guy that can help me out, but we will see…


So I am working on a new Rant, I am not sure when it will be done, but there is definitely one on the way…

Going to try and hit some accessory stuff in the gym today, I’ll post about it later…

Thanks everyone who checked out the videos and have been encouraging about them!

Sick chins Alpha! I liked the guy to your left in the second video… He looks up as he’s loading up the bar, notices what you’re planning and clearly just has to stop and watch. I guess you might have that effect on people fairly regularly.

Fingers crossed those injuries are sorted quickly. If history is any guide, you’ll quickly do what it takes to get past them. Keep killing it.

Sorry to read about those injuries man, I hope they get better soon.

There’s a quote that I really dig and I think you will too, chances are you already know it but whatever:

“All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dream with open eyes, to make it possible.”
(T. E. Lawrence)