Aliens; Real or Not?

This is a pretty good site for those of you interested in listening to and or watching interviews with people from the inside. OF course the MSM will never let you hear this, but hence this is what the internet is for.

Some of this stuff hasn’t even been officially refuted they just pretend these people are crazy or whatever, but then for some reason, they also frame them and threaten them. Anyways,

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Ok basically most people here have been talking about aliens being… advanced, intelligent etc…

But first you must consider this…

In order for life to exist on a planet, we would assume that the planet sustains liquid water, because water is the only element used by all organisms on earth so therefore is a key factor in sustaining life.

For this to occur, we must find a planet that is orbiting a star similar to the distance of earth from our sun with similar heat, luminosity, radiation emission etc.

We must find an earth like planet…

We assume this because out of the 300 or so stars that have been examined, there specs don’t match our suns specs and some of the planets found around them do not have detected liquid water.

Another key element is carbon, which all living things are mad out of YES EVEN YOU! This is because carbon can make very very very stable bonds and lots of them.

Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen are also the main scaffolding for living things because of there stability and bonding properties. If we were made up of anything else then we could possibly explode due to instability.

So IF we encounter an alien the chance of them being made out of what we’re made out of is pretty high.

IF NONE OF THIS MADE SENSE then at least think about this…

If “aliens” exist, this doesn’t mean they are more advanced than us. YOU KNOW WHY??

Because they may simply be microscopic organisms or plants or some sort of creature that shits, eats and has sex all day that hasn’t had enough time to evolve and walk out of the water like us animals have!! Or they just don’t give a shit.

But seriously an alien doesn’t mean a creature with 2 arms, 2 legs, 3 tits haha, and big green round eyes. It could just be something as simple as bacteria.

Aliens have definately visited earth.

anyone who believes otherwise has there head buried in the sand.

Ever heard of the disclosure project ?

these people, including Dr Mitchell as mentioned in this thread, simply do not have reason enough to lie.

do you question the reports of hundreds of reliable accounts as well as tens of thousand of sightings ?

The odds of EVERYONE either lying or being mistaken is simply impossible

check it out on youtube, Disclosure Project. end of story.

[quote]MrChief wrote:
This reminds me… I was watching this special on History channel and it was about crop circles. Here’s what I remember from it…

In the 70’s, SETI sent out the “Arecibo Message” into space using a radio telescope. It explained humanity and where we are in the solar system and our genetic code and such…

http://www.seti.org/images/ao-mes.gif
or

And recently, there has been a crop formation nicknamed the “Arecibo Reply”. It was similar to our message in format, except it was totally different with the information.

crop formation
http://www.cropfiles.it/special/arecibo_reply.jpg
or this other link will give an explanation

and then I found this… it explains the changes and what the values mean lol

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Also the reply was done overnight, check it out. If anyone thinks that humans could have faked that crop circle in 12 hours they are kidding themselves, it is rediculously detailed.

Yeah, and besides… it wasn’t done by humans because of the fact that there are no human trails and the crops aren’t broken. They also have some sort of radioactivity to them.

Yo Zap the chick in your avatar is insane. sorry to be off topic

[quote]MrChief wrote:
Yeah, and besides… it wasn’t done by humans because of the fact that there are no human trails and the crops aren’t broken. They also have some sort of radioactivity to them.[/quote]

The two guys that started the crop circles came out years ago.

They demonstrated how they did it.

[quote]jck524 wrote:
Yo Zap the chick in your avatar is insane. sorry to be off topic [/quote]

What chick? That’s Zapp Brannigan.

Edit: Oh wait. Yea, the girl in the chair. I wonder why Zapp doesn’t wear pants.

[quote]NateOrade wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:

It is possible that there is life all over the universe but since faster than light travel takes infinite energy it is impossible. No one is traveling here from another planet. It just isn’t happening. Read up on the physics.

If you think fast, the possibility which is not you do not worry travelling where everyone is lighter. Physics it was foolish frequently, you were wrong, you Branigan dream and desire and craving of the sweetheart of a certain urgent movement and the foreign country the wicked person who is beats just the fact that it crushes.

I apologize, the point of view which becomes the substituting perhaps it can require, it can expand actuality and the experience where this planet where we call the earth we are splendid, thing is considered. Everyone hates in order to make the foreign party ruinous.[/quote]

It rubs lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.

DB

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Why would anyone colonize the galaxy when it takes many many generations to make the crossing with no rest stops on the way? What would be the motivation?

Only a stupid creature would do such a thing and stupid creatures cannot invent space travel.[/quote]

Why would the British colonize America?

Imagine if we colonized the moon, and perhaps Mars. Once those populations got large enough, wouldn’t we want to expand further?

Maybe evolution is the mechanism for life and it occurs elsewhere in the universe too?

We see how diverse life is here on our own planet. (In the craters of volcanoes, the abyss ocean floor, etc) Is it not so hard to imagine that life could adapt to strive on another planet? Maybe life has always been part of the universe since the big bang and we are a small part of the original piece much like earth is a piece of the matter which makes up the universe. Just a thought which i have pondered.

Maybe consciousness is that piece and the evolution of life is just a designed way to harness that power.

The possibilities are endless here people. Its hard to call thousands of people who claim to see them liars just because we have not seen the same thing.

Just in the past 100 years have we discovered there was microscopic life invisible to the naked eye. How many other “invisible” forces are out there that we have not discovered?

Why are rainbows good? Why are boobs good? How the hell does a posi rear end on a plymouth work? it just does! j/k a little joe dirt humor

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
lol if time travel is possible why has no one from the future come to visit us?[/quote]

who is talking about time travel?

As for time travel, the logic of if it existed why has a future society not used it to come back in time.

That would be assuming the future exists. Who says the future is mapped out yet?

[quote]meangenes wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Agressive Napkin wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Nanan wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
rsg wrote:
I think it it would be unrealistic to believe that NO other life exists other than what’s found on our planet.

But I’ll believe in little green men when I see them.

agreed 100%

I too doubt any alien life has made it this far, and even if they did they would likely look at us like a bunch of retarded teenagers and go back home or nuke us.

Yup, or we’ll make great pets.

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What says that they exploit us though? Maybe they’re smarter than that. I mean ultimately we have seen our exploitation of every other race as inhumane. Took a while and a little bit of social consciousness but it is wrong… Right? … Guys?

They would probably view us as primitive animals, rather than another race.

How do you figure?

The difference in sophistication level between us and them could quite easily be as large as the difference between humans and animals.

Using the word probably was an overstatement though.

Like I said it would take a certain amount of social consciousness. And you literally replied with an antithesis.

Here’s some of that social consciousness stuff in action.

The word probably wasn’t an overstatement. It’s basically null and void.[/quote]

Wow… In a thread where science talk was actually going well, and most people seemed to agree that evolution and large time scales have already taken place… Someone links to “Answers In Genesis”…

Please exit the thread. Now.

I came in kinda late, so I’ll just bullet point some ideas:

  • Crop Circles: Give me a break. People still believe that these are made by aliens? The guys who do them admitted to it, and then taped themselves making them… Do you want to believe THAT badly that you deny this kind of evidence?

  • UFO’s: Just because something remains “unidentified”, does not mean its an alien ship from millions/billions of light years away. It simply means we dont know what it was.

  • Project Blue Book: If you tell people to start reporting UFOs(any object you cannot identify), I can guarantee you that people will magically start seeing things all on their own. Suddenly the slightest anomaly becomes a UFO.

  • Science being disproven/turned over: Actually very little established science ever gets “disproven.” Much of the “Science” we used to hold in high regard was actually religious mumbo jumbo (Galileo was under heavy scrutiny by the church at the time).

Very, very rarely does something backed by a consensus get totally disproved, it usually gets added on to.

And finally: While I no doubt think life exists elsewhere in the universe, I honestly doubt it has visited us. Why would we be anything worth visiting if life was commonplace anyway?.

The question is not one of possibility, but probability. It is so improbable that they would find a way to travel such vast distances and magically find us in our little galaxy. We have only been searching the sky for a few hundred years with any sort of vision enhancing tech…

A blink of an eye on a cosmological time scale. It would be quite miraculous indeed to think that, even if aliens did figure out how to travel, we happen to catch them in our neck of the woods right when they did.

Also… Why does no one consider the possibility that maybe WE are the most advanced entities in the universe? Maybe everything else is billions of years behind us instead of ahead of us.

Also… Unless anyone here has a degree in quantum mechanics, please refrain from using it in your arguments. No other scientific theory has been so badly abused as that one. Everyone from psychics and “healers”, to UFO nutjobs lay claim to it as the evidence they need.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
As for time travel, the logic of if it existed why has a future society not used it to come back in time.

That would be assuming the future exists. Who says the future is mapped out yet? [/quote]

I don’t know who started the time travel thing, but Zap is correct that FTL travel is impossible at least it is in the way we normally think of travel. Time travel is theoretically possible, just not in the Back To The Future sense.

The faster an object moves the slower that object experiences time, so the occupants of a vehicle traveling close to the speed of light would not age as fast as their earthbound counterparts. I think that’s how it works. Anyway, it’s not as awesome as it sounds.

This is a retarded thread.

[quote]beebuddy wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
As for time travel, the logic of if it existed why has a future society not used it to come back in time.

That would be assuming the future exists. Who says the future is mapped out yet?

I don’t know who started the time travel thing, but Zap is correct that FTL travel is impossible at least it is in the way we normally think of travel. Time travel is theoretically possible, just not in the Back To The Future sense.

The faster an object moves the slower that object experiences time, so the occupants of a vehicle traveling close to the speed of light would not age as fast as their earthbound counterparts. I think that’s how it works. Anyway, it’s not as awesome as it sounds.[/quote]

One of the reasons people believe time travel to the past is not possible is because it would allow for paradoxes, such as:

You would be able to go back in time and kill your father/mother, thus making it so you were never born. But, if you were never born, how could you have gone back in time to kill your parents?

As strange as it sounds, traveling into the future is exactly what happens when one travels at speeds near C. A watch that you take on your ship will literally be behind a watch left on the earth (this effect is quite magnified over time, in which you could be years or decades into the future).