…on Earth of all places.
“At its conference today, NASA scientist Felisa Wolfe-Simon will announce that NASA has found a bacteria whose DNA is completely alien to what we know today. Instead of using phosphorus, the bacteria uses arsenic. All life on Earth is made of six components: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. Every being, from the smallest amoeba to the largest whale, shares the same life stream. Our DNA blocks are all the same.”
Very cool stuff.
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?
they also upped the star count to 300 sextrillion 
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
X2.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
It’s a logical answer.
Let’s turn the question around: With the kajillions of stars out there (and we know that many have planets, due to the hundreds of observed planets outside our solar system) what makes you think we are so damn special that this is the only place it can happen? Clearly, it’s possible for an earth-size chunk of rock to orbit an average star at the perfect distance to support carbon-based life. So why would it only happen once given an infiinte number of trials?
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
It’s a logical answer.
Let’s turn the question around: With the kajillions of stars out there (and we know that many have planets, due to the hundreds of observed planets outside our solar system) what makes you think we are so damn special that this is the only place it can happen? Clearly, it’s possible for an earth-size chunk of rock to orbit an average star at the perfect distance to support carbon-based life. So why would it only happen once given an infiinte number of trials?[/quote]
because GOD chose this one out of sextrillions lol
People who believe something because it can’t be proved false drive me nuts. Mainly because, 99% of the time, the thing you are arguing AGAINST also CAN’T BE PROVED FALSE. It’s one thing to have your beliefs…but it’s another thing if your justification for those beliefs is something that could be said about your OWN argument.
I believe there’s life out there because it’s the most logical conclusion we can come to given the evidence at hand. Or at least it’s the most logical given how I interpret that evidence. I do NOT beileve in it simply because you can’t prove we are the only ones here. See the difference?
So I’ll turn your question around: why do you think that among the practically infinite number of planets out there, that we are the only one special enough to contain life?
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
It’s a logical answer.
Let’s turn the question around: With the kajillions of stars out there (and we know that many have planets, due to the hundreds of observed planets outside our solar system) what makes you think we are so damn special that this is the only place it can happen? Clearly, it’s possible for an earth-size chunk of rock to orbit an average star at the perfect distance to support carbon-based life. So why would it only happen once given an infiinte number of trials?[/quote]
because GOD chose this one out of sextrillions lol
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I was hoping for a reason based in logic – but I see now how my posts may quickly turn into a religion war. That was not my intent… I just wasn’t thinking about that side of the coin when I posted.
I love reading about new life forms… and i’m religious, but I also think that there is 100% chance of life outside our planet, solarsystem, and even galaxy. Good thing it doesn’t conflict with my religious text.
I am open to the possibility of alien life forms on other planets then ours.
Also cool stuff about the new life form…
If I could stay around for space travel to be an ordinary thing in life, I would not doubt for a second to go into the cryotube 
My inner nerd just exploded =(
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
Well, all it’d take is a small amount of bacteria on a distant planet for them to be correct. I’d say the odds of it are relatively good.
[quote]Dreythe wrote:
I love reading about new life forms… and i’m religious, but I also think that there is 100% chance of life outside our planet, solarsystem, and even galaxy. Good thing it doesn’t conflict with my religious text.[/quote]
Which religion is that?
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]Dreythe wrote:
I love reading about new life forms… and i’m religious, but I also think that there is 100% chance of life outside our planet, solarsystem, and even galaxy. Good thing it doesn’t conflict with my religious text.[/quote]
Which religion is that?[/quote]
[quote]scj119 wrote:
People who believe something because it can’t be proved false drive me nuts. Mainly because, 99% of the time, the thing you are arguing AGAINST also CAN’T BE PROVED FALSE. It’s one thing to have your beliefs…but it’s another thing if your justification for those beliefs is something that could be said about your OWN argument.
I believe there’s life out there because it’s the most logical conclusion we can come to given the evidence at hand. Or at least it’s the most logical given how I interpret that evidence. I do NOT beileve in it simply because you can’t prove we are the only ones here. See the difference?
So I’ll turn your question around: why do you think that among the practically infinite number of planets out there, that we are the only one special enough to contain life?[/quote]
Well, who’s the burden of proof on? Your logic also applies to god, ghosts, cupachabra and why Jamie Eason isn’t naked in front of me. It also can’t be proved false that within the next 5 minutes I’m going to grab a knife and disembowl my neighbor. Your last question almost verbatim exactly states what I said before. Life outside our tiny rock has to exist because there’s a ton of real estate available. No causation, no correlation, no nothing. It isn’t arrogance to say were all that’s out there. At this moment in time, it’s reality.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Kinda awesome. I still don’t believe any life exists beyond our planet. [/quote]
Why?[/quote]
Because the Nat Geo channel drives me insane. I’m a junkie for anything about the planets, but it drives me nuts to hear all these scientists explain something in detail and then turn around and assert there HAS to be life out there. Why? When pressed for an answer they turn into the 12 year kid who thinks you’re on steroids because you are big. ‘Because space it just so damn big it must be so’. [/quote]
It’s a logical answer.
Let’s turn the question around: With the kajillions of stars out there (and we know that many have planets, due to the hundreds of observed planets outside our solar system) what makes you think we are so damn special that this is the only place it can happen? Clearly, it’s possible for an earth-size chunk of rock to orbit an average star at the perfect distance to support carbon-based life. So why would it only happen once given an infiinte number of trials?[/quote]
Who says it has to be carbon based? I think thats the intriguing part about it. Just because our earth supports carbon-based life forms doesn’t mean another “earth” can’t support an entirely different “life” form.
This is some interesting food for thought, and I think it answers a lot of the questions circling around here. Stephen Hawking makes a very logical and clear argument for why life should exist elsewhere. Perhaps the most startling moment of the talk is when he hypothesizes why we haven’t found it yet.
Very, very cool.
Interesting that they use the same nucleotides along with the arsenic backbone. I would be curious to see how related their codons are to that of bacteria using the normal phosphorus backbone.
