Just because you think there might be other life out there doesn’t mean that we are being watched by aliens. Shoot, we have a lot of different types of animals on Earth and only one of them is capable of even going to space on their own.
This reminds me… I was watching this special on History channel and it was about crop circles. Here’s what I remember from it…
In the 70’s, SETI sent out the “Arecibo Message” into space using a radio telescope. It explained humanity and where we are in the solar system and our genetic code and such…
http://www.seti.org/images/ao-mes.gif
or
And recently, there has been a crop formation nicknamed the “Arecibo Reply”. It was similar to our message in format, except it was totally different with the information.
crop formation
http://www.cropfiles.it/special/arecibo_reply.jpg
or this other link will give an explanation
and then I found this… it explains the changes and what the values mean lol
[quote]NateOrade wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
It is possible that there is life all over the universe but since faster than light travel takes infinite energy it is impossible. No one is traveling here from another planet. It just isn’t happening. Read up on the physics.
If you think fast, the possibility which is not you do not worry travelling where everyone is lighter. Physics it was foolish frequently, you were wrong, you Branigan dream and desire and craving of the sweetheart of a certain urgent movement and the foreign country the wicked person who is beats just the fact that it crushes.
I apologize, the point of view which becomes the substituting perhaps it can require, it can expand actuality and the experience where this planet where we call the earth we are splendid, thing is considered. Everyone hates in order to make the foreign party ruinous.[/quote]
Before I can focus on the ignorance that abounds in NateOrade’s ramblings, I must qualify NateOrade’s character, his sources, and even his personal frame of mind towards me. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. NateOrade has a vested interest in maintaining the myths that keep his little empire loyal to him. His principal myth is that destroying our moral fiber is essential for the safety and welfare of the public. The truth is that NateOrade’s ventures are surrounded by a halo of absenteeism. Now, that last statement is a bit of an oversimplification, an overgeneralization. But it is nevertheless substantially true. While we do nothing, those who scar little children’s self-image are gloating and smirking. And they will keep on gloating and smirking until we search for solutions that are more creative and constructive than the typically ill-natured ones championed by silly charlatans.
NateOrade’s lapdogs have learned their scripts well and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. Although there’s no denying that I unequivocally can’t stand NateOrade or his spokesmen, it may be somewhat more controversial to allege that he wants me to stop trying to lend support to the thesis that his toadies favor a lifestyle that is as intransigent as his views. Instead, he’d rather I lose all self-control. Sorry, but I don’t accept defeat that easily.
I suppose it’s predictable, though terribly sad, that simple-minded, psychotic litterbugs with stronger voices than minds would revert to sniffish behavior. But the justification NateOrade gave for forcing me to abandon all hope was one of the most froward justifications I’ve ever heard. It was so froward, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: NateOrade’s methods are much subtler now than ever before. NateOrade is more adept at hidden mind control and his techniques of social brainwash are much more appealingly streamlined and homogenized. In summary, it is my prayer that people everywhere will join me in my quest to denounce those who claim that NateOrade is a perpetual victim of injustice.
I was visited by a couple aliens just last week.
They arrived in a ratty pickup truck and delivered shrubbery as a token of friendship (and the fact that I paid for it).
Oh, wait-- wrong aliens…
I stand by this theory.
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Assuming that there are other civilisations who’s to say that their science and technology isn’t eons beyond our own and all of what we hold as “impossible” hasn’t been disproved…I mean even using the Kardashev scale our civilisation isn’t even at Type 1 at this poin in our evolution
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Where are they from and how did they get here?
As best we know faster than light travel is impossible so having vistors from outside our solar system is pretty damned unlikely.
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Sure, light travel is most likely impossible, but what about having machines to create wormholes (compressed space travel)? That makes it less time to travel even than light speed.
You gotta figure that even at light speed, everything is hundreds of light years away, so it would take an enormous amount of time just to get to neighboring solar systems. Ffs, isn’t Alpha Cantauri over a year away even if one is traveling at the speed of light?
[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Nanan wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
rsg wrote:
I think it it would be unrealistic to believe that NO other life exists other than what’s found on our planet.
But I’ll believe in little green men when I see them.
agreed 100%
I too doubt any alien life has made it this far, and even if they did they would likely look at us like a bunch of retarded teenagers and go back home or nuke us.
Yup, or we’ll make great pets.
D
What says that they exploit us though? Maybe they’re smarter than that. I mean ultimately we have seen our exploitation of every other race as inhumane. Took a while and a little bit of social consciousness but it is wrong… Right? … Guys?
They would probably view us as primitive animals, rather than another race.
How do you figure?[/quote]
The difference in sophistication level between us and them could quite easily be as large as the difference between humans and animals.
Using the word probably was an overstatement though.
[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Nanan wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
rsg wrote:
I think it it would be unrealistic to believe that NO other life exists other than what’s found on our planet.
But I’ll believe in little green men when I see them.
agreed 100%
I too doubt any alien life has made it this far, and even if they did they would likely look at us like a bunch of retarded teenagers and go back home or nuke us.
Yup, or we’ll make great pets.
D
What says that they exploit us though? Maybe they’re smarter than that. I mean ultimately we have seen our exploitation of every other race as inhumane. Took a while and a little bit of social consciousness but it is wrong… Right? … Guys?
They would probably view us as primitive animals, rather than another race.
How do you figure?[/quote]
The difference in sophistication level between us and them could quite easily be as large as the difference between humans and animals.
Using the word probably was an overstatement though.
Of course aliens are real. A few got stranded here and the morphed their shape to look like us. They didn’t have any money so they sold the patent for “velcro” to some investor and that’s what they use to live on.
I saw a movie about it. It has to be true.
Interesting article I found a while ago:
Here is the full version:
His main thesis is that if we have not run into intelligent life yet, we may have a problem because intelligent life would spread incredibly fast.
So, where are they?
In his recent article for Technology Review, Bostrom writes:
...the evolutionary path to life-forms capable of space colonization leads through a �??Great Filter,�?? which can be thought of as a probability barrier...The filter consists of one or more evolutionary transitions or steps that must be traversed at great odds in order for an Earth-like planet to produce a civilization capable of exploring distant solar systems. You start with billions and billions of potential germination points for life, and you end up with a sum total of zero extraterrestrial civilizations that we can observe. The Great Filter must therefore be sufficiently powerful--which is to say, passing the critical points must be sufficiently improbable--that even with many billions of rolls of the dice, one ends up with nothing: no aliens, no spacecraft, no signals. At least, none that we can detect in our neck of the woods.
Now, just where might this Great Filter be located? There are two possibilities: It might be behind us, somewhere in our distant past. Or it might be ahead of us, somewhere in the decades, centuries, or millennia to come.
We are hoping that the filter resides in our past, that we have already overcome highly improbable odds.
More disturbingly, however, it�??s likely that the Great Filter still awaits us in the future. There�??s some kind of technologically instigated event that exists out there�??and no species can avoid it.
Again, Bostrom writes:
Throughout history, great civilizations on Earth have imploded--the Roman Empire, the Mayan civilization that once flourished in Central America, and many others. However, the kind of societal collapse that merely delays the eventual emergence of a space-colonizing civilization by a few hundred or a few thousand years would not explain why no such civilization has visited us from another planet. A thousand years may seem a long time to an individual, but in this context it�??s a sneeze. There are probably planets that are billions of years older than Earth. Any intelligent species on those planets would have had ample time to recover from repeated social or ecological collapses. Even if they failed a thousand times before they succeeded, they still could have arrived here hundreds of millions of years ago.
The Great Filter, then, would have to be something more dramatic than run-of-the mill societal collapse: it would have to be a terminal global cataclysm, an existential catastrophe. An existential risk is one that threatens to annihilate intelligent life or permanently and drastically curtail its potential for future development. In our own case, we can identify a number of potential existential risks: a nuclear war fought with arms stockpiles much larger than today�??s (perhaps resulting from future arms races); a genetically engineered superbug; environmental disaster; an asteroid impact; wars or terrorist acts committed with powerful future weapons; superÂintelligent general artificial intelligence with destructive goals; or high-energy physics experiments. These are just some of the existential risks that have been discussed in the literature, and considering that many of these have been proposed only in recent decades, it is plausible to assume that there are further existential risks we have not yet thought of.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
lol if time travel is possible why has no one from the future come to visit us?[/quote]
that is what i was thinking. i heard the question on some discovery channel show. my theory is that if time travel is possible then the world must end before we get a chance to use it
All I know is what I can see. And I don’t see any little guys walking around here so…
I do believe in the drake equation. Its logic is hard to argue.
[quote]orion wrote:
Interesting article I found a while ago:
Here is the full version:
His main thesis is that if we have not run into intelligent life yet, we may have a problem because intelligent life would spread incredibly fast.
…
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But intelligent life does not violate the laws of the universe and it didn’t write that article either.
[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Agressive Napkin wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Nanan wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
rsg wrote:
I think it it would be unrealistic to believe that NO other life exists other than what’s found on our planet.
But I’ll believe in little green men when I see them.
agreed 100%
I too doubt any alien life has made it this far, and even if they did they would likely look at us like a bunch of retarded teenagers and go back home or nuke us.
Yup, or we’ll make great pets.
D
What says that they exploit us though? Maybe they’re smarter than that. I mean ultimately we have seen our exploitation of every other race as inhumane. Took a while and a little bit of social consciousness but it is wrong… Right? … Guys?
They would probably view us as primitive animals, rather than another race.
How do you figure?
The difference in sophistication level between us and them could quite easily be as large as the difference between humans and animals.
Using the word probably was an overstatement though.
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Like I said it would take a certain amount of social consciousness. And you literally replied with an antithesis.
Here’s some of that social consciousness stuff in action.
The word probably wasn’t an overstatement. It’s basically null and void.
It could be a ‘live and let live’ thing that’s going on. I’m incorporating a little bit of my Zen beliefs into this and as seemingly mystical as Buddhism is I also think that it will remain to be the philosophy that grows with science instead of against it.
Anyhow, there could be an understanding that these beings have, maybe they’ve encountered our type of civilization before, maybe they’ve been doing it for millions of years, maybe they don’t want the general public to know that there is contact. The possibility isn’t out the window; for intelligent life that is. For unintelligent life’s exitence; most definitely and for life more intelligent than ours; without a doubt.
Life in other dimensions. The universe as a actual living thing. Other infinite and opposite dimensions where we ourselves might exist. I don’t believe that my soul/spirit/conscience is of this universe and I believe it expands beyond what this physical body allows me to perceive. Maybe our conscience does exist on other planes infinite and opposite. Things to think about.
I think just last week their was an article and video post about this. Can anyone find it?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
Interesting article I found a while ago:
Here is the full version:
His main thesis is that if we have not run into intelligent life yet, we may have a problem because intelligent life would spread incredibly fast.
…
But intelligent life does not violate the laws of the universe and it didn’t write that article either.[/quote]
So, if it would only take 20 million years to colonize our whole galaxy with von Neumann probes at 2% light speed, where are they?
[quote]orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
Interesting article I found a while ago:
Here is the full version:
His main thesis is that if we have not run into intelligent life yet, we may have a problem because intelligent life would spread incredibly fast.
…
But intelligent life does not violate the laws of the universe and it didn’t write that article either.
So, if it would only take 20 million years to colonize our whole galaxy with von Neumann probes at 2% light speed, where are they?
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Why would anyone colonize the galaxy when it takes many many generations to make the crossing with no rest stops on the way? What would be the motivation?
Only a stupid creature would do such a thing and stupid creatures cannot invent space travel.
I believe that aliens visited earth and were monitoring T-Nation. They have now returned to their own world to bulk and drink copious amounts of fish oil.