Al-Qaeda in Congress?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Vacuum,
This is just beyond stupid, actually below your usual level (low) of reasoning skills — you honestly think someone should vote for a candidate because they’re of the same religion? It doesn’t matter that he supports filth like Farrakhan, but he’s of the same religion?

You are one fucked up individual. You pass this off as ‘them not thinking like me’? How far will you go just to flame me, cumwad?
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LOL, did I hurt your wittle feelings Nutjob?

Did it ever occur to you that Christians do the very thing you are talking about every election, and nobody has had any complaints about that.

People can choose whatever reasons they wish to vote for another person, usually it comes down to having similarities in views in some manner, religion being an often used indicator.

Are you too stupid to realize that you are flying off the handle over nonsense made up by the likes of Coulter to catch nutbags like yourself?

You need to stop and listen to what people are saying, instead of making up interpretations that support your own viewpoint.

I’ll be crying a river if you never read my posts again. Now, if only I could enforce enough discipline to never read your drivel again.

However, sometimes I just need a laugh and your absolutely insane racist ramblings are so completely pathetic that I get a laugh out of them… because it’s either that or cry at the fact that useless bags of turd like yourself live on my planet.

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Freedom of religion, yes. Freedom to kill Americans in the name of religion, NO![/quote]

I think it is quite a stretch to assume that just because someone follows a certain faith that they are going to go around killing everyone. Don’t you?

Nevertheless, if you actually deserve to live under your own constitution you should try to respect the concepts that it contains at some point.

You know what? Sometimes it might challenge you to do so. Obviously, this is a challenge beyond the capabilities of Nutlicker and he has gone over the deep end.

I have higher hopes for yourself. Personally, I’d think of such issues, it’s hard not to have your brain wander around the issues involved, but then I’d trust law enforcement and the legal system to keep a watchful eye out for anything inappropriate.

That’s the system most western countries have. You could always change the constitution just to bar certain religions from participation in the election process… but that seems a little bit far fetched and it would show the insane heights to which the flames of fear had been fanned.

There is a lot of debate about whether or not the religion truly states such things or if it has instead been twisted by fanatics.

Regardless, there are other factions within your country with strange beliefs, and you allow them the freedom to hold those beliefs and talk about them, as long as they aren’t actively breaking any of the laws of your country.

Prior to judging someone for the bad elements of his religion you should listen to what he says. I’ve seen him speaking on television myself, and he seems like a very straightforward person who happens to be muslim.

He doesn’t even look like Osama. What a shock.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Freedom of religion, yes. Freedom to kill Americans in the name of religion, NO!

I think it is quite a stretch to assume that just because someone follows a certain faith that they are going to go around killing everyone. Don’t you?

It is a concern.

Nevertheless, if you actually deserve to live under your own constitution you should try to respect the concepts that it contains at some point.

You know what? Sometimes it might challenge you to do so. Obviously, this is a challenge beyond the capabilities of Nutlicker and he has gone over the deep end.

I have higher hopes for yourself. Personally, I’d think of such issues, it’s hard not to have your brain wander around the issues involved, but then I’d trust law enforcement and the legal system to keep a watchful eye out for anything inappropriate.

That’s the system most western countries have. You could always change the constitution just to bar certain religions from participation in the election process… but that seems a little bit far fetched and it would show the insane heights to which the flames of fear had been fanned.

The truth is that we are at war with certain factions of the Muslim faith. Violence IS advocated in the Q’uran against unbelievers. So it is not that crazy to think that this might be a concern.

There is a lot of debate about whether or not the religion truly states such things or if it has instead been twisted by fanatics.

Regardless, there are other factions within your country with strange beliefs, and you allow them the freedom to hold those beliefs and talk about them, as long as they aren’t actively breaking any of the laws of your country.

But perhaps he is one of the Muslims who disregard the extreme factions of their religion, just like millions of Christians do? In either case, he is just one man and can’t do much without his party backing.

Prior to judging someone for the bad elements of his religion you should listen to what he says. I’ve seen him speaking on television myself, and he seems like a very straightforward person who happens to be muslim.

He doesn’t even look like Osama. What a shock.[/quote]

Vroom,

Do you think that a Muslim in this kind of position deserves the same level of scrutiny as a non-Muslim or more?

I do believe that everyone should have the same opportunities regardless of this/her religion. But considering what other Muslims have done very recently it would seem prudent to check out Muslims more closely than someone else in this kind of position. And, I agree that listening to what they say and do would be a good first step.

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Vroom,

Do you think that a Muslim in this kind of position deserves the same level of scrutiny as a non-Muslim or more?

I do believe that everyone should have the same opportunities regardless of this/her religion. But considering what other Muslims have done very recently it would seem prudent to check out Muslims more closely than someone else in this kind of position. And, I agree that listening to what they say and do would be a good first step.
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As much as it pains me to say it, the risk is too great to ignore. However, recognizing an increased risk isn’t the same as flying off the handle and going into a panic about it…

I expect this person will be under a lot of scrutiny all the time whether rightly or wrongly and whether officially or unofficially.

However, appropriate scrutiny and watchfulness isn’t something that should interfere with how he lives his life or pursues his career. After all, I assume all those elected to higher offices get intense scrutiny?

[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Vroom,

Do you think that a Muslim in this kind of position deserves the same level of scrutiny as a non-Muslim or more?

I do believe that everyone should have the same opportunities regardless of this/her religion. But considering what other Muslims have done very recently it would seem prudent to check out Muslims more closely than someone else in this kind of position. And, I agree that listening to what they say and do would be a good first step.

As much as it pains me to say it, the risk is too great to ignore. However, recognizing an increased risk isn’t the same as flying off the handle and going into a panic about it…

I expect this person will be under a lot of scrutiny all the time whether rightly or wrongly and whether officially or unofficially.

However, appropriate scrutiny and watchfulness isn’t something that should interfere with how he lives his life or pursues his career. After all, I assume all those elected to higher offices get intense scrutiny?[/quote]

Good, moderate posts.
I agree and second this.

I will not assume he’s a terrorist (and I don’t believe he’s anywhere close to being one), but I know he will be watched with scrutiny.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Maybe the Dems should make HIM the chairman of the House Intell Committee.

How in the hell did Somali immigrants get the right to vote? Are they citizens? I know the Dems don’t care, but many others do.

Maybe when he gets to Congress, he’ll insist that everyone shut down 5 times a day, while some idiot schreeches into the PA system and he bangs his head on a rug.

No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us. [/quote]

Oh, NOW we should care what the rest of the world thinks about us?

Listen: I live in Minnesota’s Fifth Congressional District, I voted for Keith Ellison, and I’m not a bit worried about him being in Congress. It’s beyond stupid to call him AQ’s man in Congress, especially when this district has a large number of Jews living in it.

Next time, think before posting, or if that’s too hard, just don’t post at all.

[quote]skybluewater wrote:
It’s beyond stupid to call him AQ’s man in Congress, especially when this district has a large number of Jews living in it.

Next time, think before posting, or if that’s too hard, just don’t post at all.[/quote]

You must be new here. Welcome to a typical HH thread. “Beyond stupid” only gets you to the threshold, be careful where you step after that.

Hmmm…Bush avoids 'Nam by joining the Guard…never hears the end of it from the lib/scum…

Minnesota congressman asks forgiveness for supporting vermin Farrakhan: “Oh, of course you’re forgiven! We would never worry about that!”

Ah, the libs…

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Hmmm…Bush avoids 'Nam by joining the Guard…never hears the end of it from the lib/scum…

Minnesota congressman asks forgiveness for supporting vermin Farrakhan: “Oh, of course you’re forgiven! We would never worry about that!”

Ah, the libs…[/quote]

Seems to me that one of them is admitting his mistakes, while the other keeps reiterating he’s never made one.

Ah, you idiot…

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Hmmm…Bush avoids 'Nam by joining the Guard…never hears the end of it from the lib/scum…

Minnesota congressman asks forgiveness for supporting vermin Farrakhan: “Oh, of course you’re forgiven! We would never worry about that!”

Ah, the libs…[/quote]

And our president is a former alcoholic, has had 1, possibly more DUIs, and persistent rumors about cocaine abuse in his younger years. Yet people seem to have forgiven him for the mistakes he made in his youth. Get off the congressman’s case, its not like you live a perfect life and have never done something that you later regretted.

[quote]Ren wrote:
And our president is a former alcoholic, has had 1, possibly more DUIs, and persistent rumors about cocaine abuse in his younger years. Yet people seem to have forgiven him for the mistakes he made in his youth. Get off the congressman’s case, its not like you live a perfect life and have never done something that you later regretted.[/quote]

Nuthunter is one of the people that likes to live under the illusion of perfection on the part of certain elected officials…

[quote]pookie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Hmmm…Bush avoids 'Nam by joining the Guard…never hears the end of it from the lib/scum…

Minnesota congressman asks forgiveness for supporting vermin Farrakhan: “Oh, of course you’re forgiven! We would never worry about that!”

Ah, the libs…

Seems to me that one of them is admitting his mistakes, while the other keeps reiterating he’s never made one.

Ah, you idiot…
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Bush knows that would simply add fuel to the flames. The lurking poisonous spiders would crawl out of their spiderholes and…wait, you know all about that.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
pookie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Hmmm…Bush avoids 'Nam by joining the Guard…never hears the end of it from the lib/scum…

Minnesota congressman asks forgiveness for supporting vermin Farrakhan: “Oh, of course you’re forgiven! We would never worry about that!”

Ah, the libs…

Seems to me that one of them is admitting his mistakes, while the other keeps reiterating he’s never made one.

Ah, you idiot…

Bush knows that would simply add fuel to the flames. The lurking poisonous spiders would crawl out of their spiderholes and…wait, you know all about that.

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You neo-cons wouldn’t shut up about Gore saying he “inventing the Internet”, so we’ll call it even.

Who’s Quran did he use? Maybe this will shut the haters like Dickhunter and Goode up for a little while. But then they’ll find another person to hate for another just as stupid reason.

[quote]Ellison uses Thomas Jefferson’s Quran

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 17 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

“Look at that. That’s something else,” Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison’s family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.

Ellison had already planned to be sworn in using a Quran, rather than a Bible. He learned last month about Jefferson’s Quran, with its multicolored cover and brown leather binding, and arranged to borrow it.

Although the Library of Congress is right across the street from the Capitol, library officials took extra precautions in delivering the Quran for the ceremony. To protect it from the elements, they placed the Quran in a rectangular box and handled it with a green felt wrapper once inside the Capitol.

Instead of using surface streets, they walked it over via a series of winding, underground tunnels ? a trip that took more than 15 minutes. Guards then ran the book through security machines at the Capitol.

The Quran was acquired in 1815 as part of a more than 6,400-volume collection that Jefferson sold for $24,000 to replace the congressional library that had been burned by British troops the year before, in the War of 1812. Jefferson, the nation’s third president, was a collector of books in all topics and languages.

The book’s leather binding was added in 1919. Inside, it reads, “The Koran, commonly called ‘The Alcoran of Mohammed.’” Jefferson marked his ownership by writing the letter “J” next to the letter “T” that was already at the bottom of pages, according to Mark Dimunation, chief of the Library of Congress’ rare book and special collections division.

Ellison, the first black member of Congress from Minnesota, was born in Detroit and converted to Islam in college. He said earlier this week that he chose to use this Quran because it showed that a visionary like Jefferson believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

In a brief interview Thursday on his way to a vote, Ellison suggested he had tired of the whole issue of his using the Quran.

“It was good, we did it, it’s over, and now it’s time to get down to business,” he said.

Asked if he was relieved to have it behind him, Ellison said, “Yeah, because maybe we don’t have to talk about it so much anymore. Not that I’m complaining, but the pressing issues the country is facing are just a little bit more on my mind right now.”

Some critics have argued that only a Bible should be used for the swearing-in. Last month, Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., warned that unless immigration is tightened, “many more Muslims” will be elected and follow Ellison’s lead.

Ellison approached Goode on the House floor Thursday, introducing himself and offering to meet for coffee. According to Ellison, Goode said he’d be interested in doing that. The subject of Goode’s comments didn’t come up, Ellison said.

“Look, we’re trying to build bridges,” Ellison said. “We’re trying to help bring about understanding. We don’t want issues of misunderstanding and division to exist if they don’t have to.”

Goode’s office did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages for comment.

Ellison’s mother, Clida Ellison, said in an interview that she thought any controversy over her son’s choice was good, “because many people in America are going to learn what the diversity of America is all about.”

She described herself as a practicing Catholic.

“I go to Mass every day,” she said.[/quote]

[quote]tme wrote:
Who’s Quran did he use? Maybe this will shut the haters like Dickhunter and Goode up for a little while. But then they’ll find another person to hate for another just as stupid reason.

Ellison uses Thomas Jefferson’s Quran

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 17 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

“Look at that. That’s something else,” Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison’s family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.

Ellison had already planned to be sworn in using a Quran, rather than a Bible. He learned last month about Jefferson’s Quran, with its multicolored cover and brown leather binding, and arranged to borrow it.

Although the Library of Congress is right across the street from the Capitol, library officials took extra precautions in delivering the Quran for the ceremony. To protect it from the elements, they placed the Quran in a rectangular box and handled it with a green felt wrapper once inside the Capitol.

Instead of using surface streets, they walked it over via a series of winding, underground tunnels ? a trip that took more than 15 minutes. Guards then ran the book through security machines at the Capitol.

The Quran was acquired in 1815 as part of a more than 6,400-volume collection that Jefferson sold for $24,000 to replace the congressional library that had been burned by British troops the year before, in the War of 1812. Jefferson, the nation’s third president, was a collector of books in all topics and languages.

The book’s leather binding was added in 1919. Inside, it reads, “The Koran, commonly called ‘The Alcoran of Mohammed.’” Jefferson marked his ownership by writing the letter “J” next to the letter “T” that was already at the bottom of pages, according to Mark Dimunation, chief of the Library of Congress’ rare book and special collections division.

Ellison, the first black member of Congress from Minnesota, was born in Detroit and converted to Islam in college. He said earlier this week that he chose to use this Quran because it showed that a visionary like Jefferson believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

In a brief interview Thursday on his way to a vote, Ellison suggested he had tired of the whole issue of his using the Quran.

“It was good, we did it, it’s over, and now it’s time to get down to business,” he said.

Asked if he was relieved to have it behind him, Ellison said, “Yeah, because maybe we don’t have to talk about it so much anymore. Not that I’m complaining, but the pressing issues the country is facing are just a little bit more on my mind right now.”

Some critics have argued that only a Bible should be used for the swearing-in. Last month, Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., warned that unless immigration is tightened, “many more Muslims” will be elected and follow Ellison’s lead.

Ellison approached Goode on the House floor Thursday, introducing himself and offering to meet for coffee. According to Ellison, Goode said he’d be interested in doing that. The subject of Goode’s comments didn’t come up, Ellison said.

“Look, we’re trying to build bridges,” Ellison said. “We’re trying to help bring about understanding. We don’t want issues of misunderstanding and division to exist if they don’t have to.”

Goode’s office did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages for comment.

Ellison’s mother, Clida Ellison, said in an interview that she thought any controversy over her son’s choice was good, “because many people in America are going to learn what the diversity of America is all about.”

She described herself as a practicing Catholic.

“I go to Mass every day,” she said.

[/quote]

But he won’t be able to pet a dog (dog saliva is evil) or go anywhere near an unopened bottle of booze! (Q’uran forbids any contact with those.) How’ll he survive in DC?

Look, if you want Muslim government officials, move to Iran (or soon France). We don’t need Sharia Law here.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
tme wrote:
Who’s Quran did he use? Maybe this will shut the haters like Dickhunter and Goode up for a little while. But then they’ll find another person to hate for another just as stupid reason.

Ellison uses Thomas Jefferson’s Quran

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 17 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

“Look at that. That’s something else,” Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison’s family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.

Ellison had already planned to be sworn in using a Quran, rather than a Bible. He learned last month about Jefferson’s Quran, with its multicolored cover and brown leather binding, and arranged to borrow it.

Although the Library of Congress is right across the street from the Capitol, library officials took extra precautions in delivering the Quran for the ceremony. To protect it from the elements, they placed the Quran in a rectangular box and handled it with a green felt wrapper once inside the Capitol.

Instead of using surface streets, they walked it over via a series of winding, underground tunnels ? a trip that took more than 15 minutes. Guards then ran the book through security machines at the Capitol.

The Quran was acquired in 1815 as part of a more than 6,400-volume collection that Jefferson sold for $24,000 to replace the congressional library that had been burned by British troops the year before, in the War of 1812. Jefferson, the nation’s third president, was a collector of books in all topics and languages.

The book’s leather binding was added in 1919. Inside, it reads, “The Koran, commonly called ‘The Alcoran of Mohammed.’” Jefferson marked his ownership by writing the letter “J” next to the letter “T” that was already at the bottom of pages, according to Mark Dimunation, chief of the Library of Congress’ rare book and special collections division.

Ellison, the first black member of Congress from Minnesota, was born in Detroit and converted to Islam in college. He said earlier this week that he chose to use this Quran because it showed that a visionary like Jefferson believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

In a brief interview Thursday on his way to a vote, Ellison suggested he had tired of the whole issue of his using the Quran.

“It was good, we did it, it’s over, and now it’s time to get down to business,” he said.

Asked if he was relieved to have it behind him, Ellison said, “Yeah, because maybe we don’t have to talk about it so much anymore. Not that I’m complaining, but the pressing issues the country is facing are just a little bit more on my mind right now.”

Some critics have argued that only a Bible should be used for the swearing-in. Last month, Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., warned that unless immigration is tightened, “many more Muslims” will be elected and follow Ellison’s lead.

Ellison approached Goode on the House floor Thursday, introducing himself and offering to meet for coffee. According to Ellison, Goode said he’d be interested in doing that. The subject of Goode’s comments didn’t come up, Ellison said.

“Look, we’re trying to build bridges,” Ellison said. “We’re trying to help bring about understanding. We don’t want issues of misunderstanding and division to exist if they don’t have to.”

Goode’s office did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages for comment.

Ellison’s mother, Clida Ellison, said in an interview that she thought any controversy over her son’s choice was good, “because many people in America are going to learn what the diversity of America is all about.”

She described herself as a practicing Catholic.

“I go to Mass every day,” she said.

But he won’t be able to pet a dog (dog saliva is evil) or go anywhere near an unopened bottle of booze! (Q’uran forbids any contact with those.) How’ll he survive in DC?

Look, if you want Muslim government officials, move to Iran (or soon France). We don’t need Sharia Law here.

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ANd you Christians are forbidden from doing anything but prayer on Sunday! Whatever shall you do when Congress is called on a Sunday?

And as a Christian your forbidden from killing! What about when they have to declare war?

Christians are forbidden from committing adultery! How will they survive in an area ripe with prostitution?

You. Are. A. Douche bag.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Look, if you want Muslim government officials, move to Iran (or soon France). We don’t need Sharia Law here.[/quote]

Everybody gets to vote for who they want, that’s how democracy works. In Minnesota they voted for a guy who coincidentally happens to be a Muslim.

In your home state (Ohio) people voted in a whole posse of Republican crooks and embezzlers. That was what Ohio voted for… criminals who literally stole money from the taxpayers.

All this Congressman Ellison needs to do now is successfully refrain from ripping off his own state’s taxpayers, and he’ll already be more distinguished than the GOP in Ohio.

You might want to apply some of your spastic energy towards cleaning up your local Republican party, rather than further embarrassing yourself with yet more bigoted comments on the internet.

To the last 2 posters, Brad and Biwolf:

I don’t like someone with very fundamentally different beliefs in my government. If he had to be part of a government fighting a Muslim country, where would his loyalties lie? You people are going to get a nuke up your asses, all in the name of ‘open-mindedness’.

Muslims are very different from westerners. Their thinking is so radically different, they are not fit to have positions of power in our country.

If you guys love 'em so much, go fucking live there. We don’t want you. And maybe it’ll sink in THEN how Muslims think.

Fucking unthinking lib saps…

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I don’t like someone with very fundamentally different beliefs in my government. If he had to be part of a government fighting a Muslim country, where would his loyalties lie? You people are going to get a nuke up your asses, all in the name of ‘open-mindedness’.

Muslims are very different from westerners. Their thinking is so radically different, they are not fit to have positions of power in our country.

If you guys love 'em so much, go fucking live there. We don’t want you. And maybe it’ll sink in THEN how Muslims think.

Fucking unthinking lib saps…[/quote]

And what you’re doing is called thinking?

He’s one guy out of 435, I doubt he’ll be able to turn the Presidency over to Osama.

Doesn’t having a muslim elected to your house of representative show the world that in the U.S. people really are free? Free to vote for who they and free to present themselves for elections regardless of their cultures or beliefs?

Now if you bigoted, hatemongering jackasses would just shut up and give the guy a chance to show what he can accomplish, you know, succeed or fail based on what he actually says and does, rather than based on your prejudicial image of him? Wouldn’t that be nice?

Guys like you are always wondering where are the moderate muslims. When one shows up, you jump on him with both feet and ask he be kicked to the curb. And then you wonder why the extremists get so much support: you prove them right every time.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I don’t like someone with very fundamentally different beliefs in my government. If he had to be part of a government fighting a Muslim country, where would his loyalties lie? You people are going to get a nuke up your asses, all in the name of ‘open-mindedness’.

Muslims are very different from westerners. Their thinking is so radically different, they are not fit to have positions of power in our country.

If you guys love 'em so much, go fucking live there. We don’t want you. And maybe it’ll sink in THEN how Muslims think.

Fucking unthinking lib saps…

And what you’re doing is called thinking?

He’s one guy out of 435, I doubt he’ll be able to turn the Presidency over to Osama.

Doesn’t having a muslim elected to your house of representative show the world that in the U.S. people really are free? Free to vote for who they and free to present themselves for elections regardless of their cultures or beliefs?

Now if you bigoted, hatemongering jackasses would just shut up and give the guy a chance to show what he can accomplish, you know, succeed or fail based on what he actually says and does, rather than based on your prejudicial image of him? Wouldn’t that be nice?

Guys like you are always wondering where are the moderate muslims. When one shows up, you jump on him with both feet and ask he be kicked to the curb. And then you wonder why the extremists get so much support: you prove them right every time.
[/quote]

The Germans did and thought exactly the same stuff in 1932. “Ah, give 'em a chance! They’ll moderate, come back on board!” Or there’s the famous line “We’ll make him Chancellor and so we’ll box him in!” (Franz von Papen, I think).