I’ll one-up you with $2/hour as a waiter. The tips, of course made up for it. However, when it is not busy, its a loooong moneyless day.
How long have some of you been doing 5/3/1 btw?
How long did you use the program before buying the book?
or did you wait to start the program before buying and reading it?
Apparently, from what some of you are saying, I’ve only been test running the program. But since I started back in January I’ve made some pretty good gains and broke some PRs. It’s this experience I’m using to determine whether to buy the book or not. I’ve done well so far without it but I’m sure progress will eventually slow down or stall. That’s most likely when I’ll decide whether to buy it or not or to even keep using the program or not.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
If I’m making gains, why pay for it?
[quote]tonypluto wrote:
How long have some of you been doing 5/3/1 btw?
How long did you use the program before buying the book?
or did you wait to start the program before buying and reading it?
Apparently, from what some of you are saying, I’ve only been test running the program. But since I started back in January I’ve made some pretty good gains and broke some PRs. It’s this experience I’m using to determine whether to buy the book or not. I’ve done well so far without it but I’m sure progress will eventually slow down or stall. That’s most likely when I’ll decide whether to buy it or not or to even keep using the program or not.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
If I’m making gains, why pay for it?
[/quote]
Nobody’s saying pay for it if you are happy with your current program and undersatnd it. The basis of this discussion was some lazy fucker wanting to be spoon fed an ENTIRE assistance template when there are many to chose from in the book.
To kscully or wahtever his name is: you raise fair points, but this isn’t just “hey guys, btw, should I be using 90% or 95% of my training max in week 3?” It is “hey guys, please design for me a custom built template for assistance work even though im not telling you anything about my training history, current strength levels, injury status, weaknesses, training goals, etc.”…that is a FAR cry from a simple question.
[quote]HARA wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
This is all in the book. Why don’t you just read it?[/quote]
It still amazes me that people will dedicate months of lifting to 5/3/1 but won’t spend 20 bucks to understand it.[/quote]
I spent 40, Damn shipping.
[quote]ineedskins wrote:
[quote]HARA wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
This is all in the book. Why don’t you just read it?[/quote]
It still amazes me that people will dedicate months of lifting to 5/3/1 but won’t spend 20 bucks to understand it.[/quote]
I spent 40, Damn shipping.[/quote]
You got charged shipping on the e-book? haha
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]ineedskins wrote:
[quote]HARA wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
This is all in the book. Why don’t you just read it?[/quote]
It still amazes me that people will dedicate months of lifting to 5/3/1 but won’t spend 20 bucks to understand it.[/quote]
I spent 40, Damn shipping.[/quote]
You got charged shipping on the e-book? haha
[/quote]
Nah i got the actual book, shipped 3000 + miles 
[quote]tonypluto wrote:
How long have some of you been doing 5/3/1 btw?
How long did you use the program before buying the book?
or did you wait to start the program before buying and reading it?
Apparently, from what some of you are saying, I’ve only been test running the program. But since I started back in January I’ve made some pretty good gains and broke some PRs. It’s this experience I’m using to determine whether to buy the book or not. I’ve done well so far without it but I’m sure progress will eventually slow down or stall. That’s most likely when I’ll decide whether to buy it or not or to even keep using the program or not.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
If I’m making gains, why pay for it?
[/quote]
Well I started using it mid last year, and used a copy of the 1st edition a friend sent me initially.
After 3 cycles I realised it was totally badass, and felt like a scabrous loser for making ill-gotten gains on a program some guy sells for a living.
So when the 2nd edition became available, I snapped up a legit copy.
As for the contents, you really can’t get the full scope of the program, the philosophy and the immense range of training options and general Wendler wise words without buying the book.
So that is what you should do.
In the grand scheme of things $20 is nothing. If you can afford a gym membership and/or gear, and clothes to train in… you can afford to pay for a totally boss program to help you get the results you want.
[quote]ineedskins wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]ineedskins wrote:
[quote]HARA wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
This is all in the book. Why don’t you just read it?[/quote]
It still amazes me that people will dedicate months of lifting to 5/3/1 but won’t spend 20 bucks to understand it.[/quote]
I spent 40, Damn shipping.[/quote]
You got charged shipping on the e-book? haha
[/quote]
Nah i got the actual book, shipped 3000 + miles :)[/quote]
Even cooler. Books get you off the computer.