Affliction: Banned 7/19 Discussion

Yup. And he’s 1,500 times faster than Randy. I love Randy and I’d love to see him pull off some kind of miracle just for the sake of it, but he has no chance against Fedor. It don’t even see it getting out of the first round.

[quote]HitEmHard wrote:
i dont this its so much his age just the fact that fedor doesnt get pressured and his game is so well rounded and he hits so hard that its going to take something unbelieveable to stop him anytime soon[/quote]

maybe they should start putting in multiple opponents in at one time to take on fedor lol randy cant stand with him. ok hes a good wrestler but whats he going to do on the floor against fedor? nothing its going to be a while before fedor is de-throwned in my opinion anyway

Randy and Fedor are similar fighters only Fedor is much better in every single area.

[quote]JonP wrote:
Randy and Fedor are similar fighters only Fedor is much better in every single area. [/quote]

I agree with this. They both have a similar style and both have very affable magnetic personalities in the sport. Comparing the two, the thing with Fedor is that he is the best finisher out there when he hurts guys.

Both Fedor and Randy hurt Tim in the opening seconds and got his back with hooks in, the difference is that Fedor instantly finished Sylvia while Randy had to grind out a 25 minute decision.

It was a night where we saw two men who are very far above the competition. Fedor and Anderson are a joy to watch. Both of them are so dominant it’s almost silly. Amazing…

[quote]danew wrote:
It was a night where we saw two men who are very far above the competition. Fedor and Anderson are a joy to watch. Both of them are so dominant it’s almost silly. Amazing…[/quote]

It’s a wonder Fedor isn’t bored with the whole thing.

Unreal, I honestly thought it would take Fedor a bit longer than that. Also leads credence to the theory that Fedor carried Coleman for an entire round in their second fight as he probably could have made that fight shorter if he had wanted to.

So what is everyone’s opinion of Affliction Banned in general? I thought it was awesome…best night of fights I’ve seen in a while.

So, I get an email this morning…and my friend says; Fedor vs Sylvia- Watch The Fight.

I look at attachments, and it says ‘video’ and the size is 3012 kb…and I’m like…this couldn’t have lasted long.

I pop it open, and I see Fedor and Sylvia…I blink…then I see Sylvia dead on the mat and Fedor standing.

Wow…

How the fuck is Dana White going to spin this?

'Well, Sylvia was out of shape and he’s used to the Octagon. The whole thing was rigged in Fedor’s favor, because of the square ring. Honestly, I think it’s all luck, give Sylvia a rematch and put him in an Octagon, and we’ll seehow tough he is."

right…

Definatly a great addition in mma especialy for a first card to bring so many great fighters together. if this continues they will be huge

[quote]HitEmHard wrote:
definatly a great addition in mma especialy for a first card to bring so many great fighters together. if this continues they will be huge[/quote]

I don’t know if one card is indicative of the company’s future, but I hope it is. Is Affliction more likely to bring a Grand Prix than the UFC? That would really be worth watching.

[quote]HitEmHard wrote:
definatly a great addition in mma especialy for a first card to bring so many great fighters together. if this continues they will be huge[/quote]

Yeah…they set their standard with the first show…now they have to live up to that now…and I think they will. Having Donald Trump throwing money into Affliction is not a bad thing either…but the ties he wears are a bad thing…lol.

Started out a little weak with the Buentello fight. He looked terrible, Aleksander would have destroyed him. Things picked up with Belfort Martin and didn’t slow down until the Lindland fight, which was kind of weak.

Sobral/Whitehead was close which made the third round exciting, but the falling through the ropes got old real fast. From there the fights kept getting better, and no more decisions the rest of the night.

Arlovski was great. Fedor was phenomenal.

As far as the production, not too bad. I’m not a huge megadeath fan so that started to get old. There was a lot of dead air, and they probably should have spent the time to put together more fluff pieces on the fighters to fill it.

But, I loved them cutting to Fedor sitting in the back and playing cards while waiting for his fight. All in all not a perfect production, but the fights were ridiculous enough to make it one of the best nights I’ve seen in a long time.

[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
HitEmHard wrote:
definatly a great addition in mma especialy for a first card to bring so many great fighters together. if this continues they will be huge

I don’t know if one card is indicative of the company’s future, but I hope it is. Is Affliction more likely to bring a Grand Prix than the UFC? That would really be worth watching.[/quote]

i cant see the UFC ever running a grand prix but affliction might do but who knows im sure if demand is high enough they will deliver i mean they are trying to deliver a fight every1 has wanted for so long now…fedor and randy that surely they could see a profit in it. i think a major hurdle will simply be weather the commisions in the states will allow it

If they’re going to use a four-sided ring as opposed to a cage, so that they want a square-shaped space with four corners, fine. BUT, then you shouldn’t use traditional boxing ropes on the walls of the ring, as evidenced by the shit-show of a couple fighters constantly falling through the ropes (and hitting the tables) last night, requiring pauses and re-starts in the fights.

The solution? Have some sort of mesh, “cage-like” wall in place of all of the ropes except the top one, and have it be attached at the bottom. It could be actual metal cage material like the UFC uses, I suppose, but I was thinking more like some kind of cloth or nylon interwoven mesh material.

You could still have the top rope in place, so that the mesh material would be attached to the top rope at the top and attached solidly to the mat on the bottom.

And if it’s made of some sort of fabric/mesh, then it will still allow the top rope to have a little give when someone is being pushed up against it while standing, as in boxing, but it’s a solid mesh/cloth/woven material wall below the top rope which, though it might have a tiny bit of give to it, won’t allow fighters to fall through it and get “under the ropes” or fall outside the ring.

Really simple solution, right?

It was a phenomenal first showing IMO, but that was greatly because of the talent they were able to get. I think their survival is going to depend on what other quality fighters they can acquire.

They definitely got the production part right as well and they have the support to back them up…

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
HitEmHard wrote:
definatly a great addition in mma especialy for a first card to bring so many great fighters together. if this continues they will be huge

Yeah…they set their standard with the first show…now they have to live up to that now…and I think they will. Having Donald Trump throwing money into Affliction is not a bad thing either…but the ties he wears are a bad thing…lol.[/quote]

I agree 100%. A boxing ring does not work for MMA, they should just adopt the cage altogether! I know the UFC owns “the octagon”, but it can be a circle, a pentagon or whatever…

[quote]Damici wrote:
If they’re going to use a four-sided ring as opposed to a cage, so that they want a square-shaped space with four corners, fine.

BUT, then you shouldn’t use traditional boxing ropes on the walls of the ring, as evidenced by the shit-show of a couple fighters constantly falling through the ropes (and hitting the tables) last night, requiring pauses and re-starts in the fights.

The solution? Have some sort of mesh, “cage-like” wall in place of all of the ropes except the top one, and have it be attached at the bottom. It could be actual metal cage material like the UFC uses, I suppose, but I was thinking more like some kind of cloth or nylon interwoven mesh material.

You could still have the top rope in place, so that the mesh material would be attached to the top rope at the top and attached solidly to the mat on the bottom. And if it’s made of some sort of fabric/mesh, then it will still allow the top rope to have a little give when someone is being pushed up against it while standing, as in boxing, but it’s a solid mesh/cloth/woven material wall below the top rope which, though it might have a tiny bit of give to it, won’t allow fighters to fall through it and get “under the ropes” or fall outside the ring.

Really simple solution, right?
[/quote]

Well comcast fucked me over and I was unable to watch it live. I had to find each fight on the net today and watch. I thought the size of the ring was cool. It really gave the fighters room to work w/out as many boring clinches in the corners like you used to occasionally see in Pride.

I agree about the ring ropes, there are problems. I think the mesh solution is interesting. On the other hand, I think it may just be part of the strategy required to fight. If you are on top, or in a good position, you need to get your opponent away from the ropes so you can work.

Similar to how you have to cage strategy. I thought the fights were good. I’m not a big Jay Glazer fan though. I don’t like it when the play-by-play guy gives ‘expert’ analysis. You have two very knowledgable guys sitting next to you, describe the action and let them analyze. Big John was good, Trigg was ok, all-in-all a pretty good looking show from what I could see.

The interesting thing going forward to see won’t be so much their next show, but the precedent they set with the one fight, or open, contracts. Whether or not fighters hold this in high value, along with Affliction’s ability to get on TV regularly like the UFC does with Spike, will determine success.

If fighters understand their negotiating power with those contracts and their ability to seek out the best fights possible, and you get defections from the UFC, then Affliction will grow and do well.

[quote]danew wrote:
Well comcast fucked me over and I was unable to watch it live. I had to find each fight on the net today and watch. I thought the size of the ring was cool. It really gave the fighters room to work w/out as many boring clinches in the corners like you used to occasionally see in Pride.

I agree about the ring ropes, there are problems. I think the mesh solution is interesting. On the other hand, I think it may just be part of the strategy required to fight. If you are on top, or in a good position, you need to get your opponent away from the ropes so you can work.

Similar to how you have to cage strategy. I thought the fights were good. I’m not a big Jay Glazer fan though. I don’t like it when the play-by-play guy gives ‘expert’ analysis. You have two very knowledgable guys sitting next to you, describe the action and let them analyze. Big John was good, Trigg was ok, all-in-all a pretty good looking show from what I could see.

The interesting thing going forward to see won’t be so much their next show, but the precedent they set with the one fight, or open, contracts. Whether or not fighters hold this in high value, along with Affliction’s ability to get on TV regularly like the UFC does with Spike, will determine success.

If fighters understand their negotiating power with those contracts and their ability to seek out the best fights possible, and you get defections from the UFC, then Affliction will grow and do well.[/quote]

Yeah…Jay Glazer annoys me. Trigg and Big John are all they need.

Big John and Trigg did a good job. I was impressed in the overall showing and the beginning reminded me of the Pride days with all the fighters walking out.

Did anyone else think it was funny how they kept showing Tito and Randy?