Fairly new to the forum and i would like some advice on a cycle i have planned. First some back ground, i am an experienced trainer of over 15 years and have dabbled with small amounts of gear over the years. Bits of winny, primo, anavar and small amounts of test prop. I am a dancer/personal trainer so have never really been able to have a large course. Things have changed this year and i would like to dip my toes into a local comp this july.
Stats are:
Height 5.8"
Weight 180lbs
I can maintain this body weight at about 10% body fat. Had a photo shoot and got into a fairly lean condition(not shredded) using 300mg of test prop per week and 50mg anavar per and half an arimidex per day. I have to as i only have to say the word steroids and i bloat and i get bitch tits from hell.
Want to step things up a bit this year. Here is my suggested cycle. Advice is most welcome.
Sust 500mg, 400mg Equipoise p/w for 10 weeks.
Adex- half tab per day.
Switch to:
Test prop 400mg, 300mg Tren p/w for 6-8 weeks.
Adex-half tab per day ,maybe whole tab if needed.
Also, will use Biotest HOT-ROX for last month of cycle. Have used clen b4 but prefer the HOT-ROX.
Competition is in the last week of the cutting cycle
After the comp i would start the usual PCT of hcg, clomid and tamoxifen.
I see u mention about frequency of the sust, saying every day or every second day? I was gonna shoot it the same time as the EQ, once a week. Im assuming thats a typo on your part?
I see u mention about frequency of the sust, saying every day or every second day? I was gonna shoot it the same time as the EQ, once a week. Im assuming thats a typo on your part?
Gavin[/quote]
No. Sustanon has short esters and needs to be injected at least E3D. E2D is better.
Cycle would be 18 weeks in total but would be switching to prop after week 10. Sust has 2 short esthers and two long esters so how do i shoot it every other day when im only doing 500mg per week? Thats only two shots. Are you suggesting splitting it up? What you are saying seems to contradict much of the info i have read but i could be wrong…not an expert by any stretch. Appreciate your time on this.
personally id even think about EO if i were you, depending of course on the amount you have and results your looking for. ya cortes are you thinkin 18 weeks with test EQ and Tren seems long? maybe its just my thinking
[quote]Game_over wrote:
personally id even think about EO if i were you, depending of course on the amount you have and results your looking for. ya cortes are you thinkin 18 weeks with test EQ and Tren seems long? maybe its just my thinking[/quote]
Seems unnecessarily long to me.
Why change to prop? Test is test. If you are going to use some kind of test I would just use prop the entire cycle. Sus has long and short esters, and because of the short esters, you will not be able to maintain a steady hormonal balance unless you shoot it quite often, basically about as much as prop.
[quote]leandog wrote:
Cycle would be 18 weeks in total but would be switching to prop after week 10. Sust has 2 short esthers and two long esters so how do i shoot it every other day when im only doing 500mg per week? Thats only two shots. Are you suggesting splitting it up? What you are saying seems to contradict much of the info i have read but i could be wrong…not an expert by any stretch. Appreciate your time on this.
Gavin[/quote]
Much of the info out there is ridiculous. Just think about it, the short esters are out of your system fast, which means if you are shooting once a week your hormones levels will resemble a roller coaster. Of course I am suggesting you split it up. In order to do this you use math.
Hi, you can get by by using the sostenon twice per week, but at that point you are pushing it as you want to avoid rolling levels of hormones that can leave you more susceptable to acne and aromatization - two things you don’t need going into a show.
The Eq is O.k injected once per week but I would recomend you split it up and inject twice per week also.
Most people don’t realise that depots do not release evenly.
The majority of the amount you inject is released within the first couple of days.
Thanks for the info guys but just to clarify, i would be doing ten weeks of sust and eq, then changing to prop and tren for 6 weeks. The idea being i would hold less water with the prop. Is that too long a cycle? Appreciate the advice on the sust furious george and othere, makes a lot of sense now. Thanks.
That sounds great, I really appreciate the advice on this one. I will be starting this 16 weeks before the comp and i will give progress reports as i go along.
Will do mate. At the moment im pretty much like i am in my profile shot but not quite as lean. My aim with this cycle will be 8-10 pounds muscle but bearing in mind the last 6 weeks will be cutting and dieting hard. Will keep you informed as I go.