Adductor Magnus?

Training Injuries
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When I do a typical glute-stretch on the floor, similar to this: http://www.stretchtowin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/best-764-23.jpg

… I actually feel a stretch in the upper-medial thigh/hamstring area. When I stand up after the stretching I get this strange feeling the same muscle/area. Its not pain exactly and it disappears after some minutes. My questions are; is this probably adductor magnus, posterior fibres? And is this a safe position to stretch this muscle?

I definitely have som kind of syngergistic dominance going on and the position of my pelvis is messed up on this (right) side. Anteriorly tilted pelvis, foot is not stabile in neutral stance and collapses innward if I dont externally rotate it somewhat. Hip extension is horrible but I cant seem to figure out what is inhibiting the extension.

When I squat and get sore, I get sore in the same area of what I believe is the posterior adductor magnus, and not really in the glutes at all.

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[quote]ev1bl wrote:
When I do a typical glute-stretch on the floor, similar to this: http://www.stretchtowin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/best-764-23.jpg

… I actually feel a stretch in the upper-medial thigh/hamstring area. When I stand up after the stretching I get this strange feeling the same muscle/area. Its not pain exactly and it disappears after some minutes. My questions are; is this probably adductor magnus, posterior fibres? And is this a safe position to stretch this muscle?

I definitely have som kind of syngergistic dominance going on and the position of my pelvis is messed up on this (right) side. Anteriorly tilted pelvis, foot is not stabile in neutral stance and collapses innward if I dont externally rotate it somewhat. Hip extension is horrible but I cant seem to figure out what is inhibiting the extension.

When I squat and get sore, I get sore in the same area of what I believe is the posterior adductor magnus, and not really in the glutes at all. [/quote]

When the glutes are dormant it’s pretty common for the hamstrings and the hamstring portion of the adductor magnus to pick up the slack as hip extensors. This may be what’s going on and why you seem to be having some stiffness in the adductor.

Do you feel any pinching in the hip when you do that stretch? Or is it only a stretch feeling?

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Hmm, yea this is a hard one. Not sure about symptoms, but yea could be the AM, and what is sometimes called the AM minimus. This stretch is often used to hit the piriformis (if we are talking about the right leg in the photo), but it depends on the where the upper body is leaning etc, as to what fibers and muscles are emphasized. I would advocate using an active isolated technique over this sort of static stretching in cases where there is possible joint pathology or there is laxity in the joint. Static stretching can impact ligaments more than muscles, and that can create more problems. There are definitely much better stretches for the Adductor group. Not telling you to do this, but here is a video of an AIS sequence for adductor… Hip Adductor/ Groin Stretch - Active Isolated Stretching - YouTube

Watch your knees during squats and make sure they don’t “cave in”, or come closer together when you ascend.

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[quote]BReddy wrote:

[quote]ev1bl wrote:
When I do a typical glute-stretch on the floor, similar to this: http://www.stretchtowin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/best-764-23.jpg

… I actually feel a stretch in the upper-medial thigh/hamstring area. When I stand up after the stretching I get this strange feeling the same muscle/area. Its not pain exactly and it disappears after some minutes. My questions are; is this probably adductor magnus, posterior fibres? And is this a safe position to stretch this muscle?

I definitely have som kind of syngergistic dominance going on and the position of my pelvis is messed up on this (right) side. Anteriorly tilted pelvis, foot is not stabile in neutral stance and collapses innward if I dont externally rotate it somewhat. Hip extension is horrible but I cant seem to figure out what is inhibiting the extension.

When I squat and get sore, I get sore in the same area of what I believe is the posterior adductor magnus, and not really in the glutes at all. [/quote]

When the glutes are dormant it’s pretty common for the hamstrings and the hamstring portion of the adductor magnus to pick up the slack as hip extensors. This may be what’s going on and why you seem to be having some stiffness in the adductor.

Do you feel any pinching in the hip when you do that stretch? Or is it only a stretch feeling?[/quote]

No I cant really feel any typical impingement in the hip. I dont think I can get in enough degree of flexion and external rotation for that to happen. The feeling is very strange, and I am not sure it is a good thing/normal stretch of a muscle.

When I get sore in the adductors from squatting, I can feel the soreness not only when squatting down but also when trying to complete extension of the right hip when walking etc. Seems like the same muscle in the groin-area.

When I do a typical lunge-stretch for the psoas I cant really feel a stretch in that muscle, but when trying to do a cook hip lift I am so far away from being able to lock out is not even funny.

Other strange stuff is that I can front squat 200 kilos fairly easy and deadlift around 300k, but I cant do a single ab wheel rollout from the knees. I have tried training it a lot through a shorter ROM and using a stability ball, but its like my abdominals wont work on stuff like that. I feel no stretch or fatigue, which I can remember there used to be before in movements like that.

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[quote]mathew260 wrote:
Hmm, yea this is a hard one. Not sure about symptoms, but yea could be the AM, and what is sometimes called the AM minimus. This stretch is often used to hit the piriformis (if we are talking about the right leg in the photo), but it depends on the where the upper body is leaning etc, as to what fibers and muscles are emphasized. I would advocate using an active isolated technique over this sort of static stretching in cases where there is possible joint pathology or there is laxity in the joint. Static stretching can impact ligaments more than muscles, and that can create more problems. There are definitely much better stretches for the Adductor group. Not telling you to do this, but here is a video of an AIS sequence for adductor… Hip Adductor/ Groin Stretch - Active Isolated Stretching - YouTube

Watch your knees during squats and make sure they don’t “cave in”, or come closer together when you ascend. [/quote]

Yeah I dont do the stretch a lot, but I am thinking more in a diagnostic point of view. There is something really wrong in that position/stretch, which is not there on the other side(left).

I think in most of the movements in that video I would get impingement and not a lot of stretching. I do have a slight problem with knees caving somewhat in during heavy squats. Here is a clip of my squat: 2x235kg knebøy 23.04.12 - YouTube

The big problem is that I cant seem to get my pelvis into neutral position, and therefore not stabilize the right side very well during squats. Instead of keeping a neutral spine that side of the spine is in a constant arch (about mid back is where most of the extension occures).