[quote]chimera182 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
33breeze wrote:
I am interested in achieving the grecian ideal, but is it possible to have that with a bmi of OVER 9000???
Fixed that for you.
To be fair, you’d have to almost be super saiyan, or at least use kaoiken, to get over 9000!!![/quote]
Goku went super saiyan 3 and his power lever was over 1,000,000. That’s definitely OVER 9000!!!
Exactly, so it’s unfair to expect someone to attain that simply by becoming greek.
you’re on the wrong site
Do you realize proportion systems like those of Phidias and Praxitiles are called ideals because they’re designed to produce great statues and not because any single human achieved them?
BMI is fucked.
A 6’6" person with a 30 BMI will not look as “Thick” as a 5’5" person with a 30 BMI.
So, if you were very short. Like, 5 foot 5 inches, you might look jacked at a lean 150lbs with a BMI of 25.
But if you’re not really short, then you’re gonna have to lose a limb in order to hit the Greek Ideal Body at a BMI of 25.
And I doubt being really short or losing a limb is really the gricean ideal.
I think it’s a fair assumption to say that every ideal greek statue, even the David (whose on the thin side in comparison to most) would be overweight by BMI standards if they were scaled down to a size that wasn’t a giant fucking statue.
I would venture to say that the gricean ideal presented in statues is of an ultra-lean dude of at least a 30 BMI.
Also, Poliquin states that the two greatest CONTROLLABLE determinants for longevity are muscle mass (lean body mass) and strength.
So whatever study said that a BMI of 25 is ideal, I wouldn’t get too caught up in it.
[quote]supabeast wrote:
Do you realize proportion systems like those of Phidias and Praxitiles are called ideals because they’re designed to produce great statues and not because any single human achieved them?[/quote]
but maybe he likes the the way the statues look, and wants to emulate them?
thanks everyone. the grecian ideal is a model i would like to follow.
[quote]Bloobird wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
33breeze wrote:
I am interested in achieving the grecian ideal, but is it possible to have that with a bmi of OVER 9000???
Fixed that for you.
To be fair, you’d have to almost be super saiyan, or at least use kaoiken, to get over 9000!!!
Goku went super saiyan 3 and his power lever was over 1,000,000. That’s definitely OVER 9000!!! [/quote]
Maybe we should change the meme to OVER 1,000,000!!!
I think that would confuse some of the slower people on the interwebs
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
supabeast wrote:
Do you realize proportion systems like those of Phidias and Praxitiles are called ideals because they’re designed to produce great statues and not because any single human achieved them?
but maybe he likes the the way the statues look, and wants to emulate them?[/quote]
The ancient Greeks regarded tiny genitals as a desirable trait. I’m not convinced that’s the best way to finish off a perfectly formed physique. Something is way out of proportion here.
[quote]roybot wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
supabeast wrote:
Do you realize proportion systems like those of Phidias and Praxitiles are called ideals because they’re designed to produce great statues and not because any single human achieved them?
but maybe he likes the the way the statues look, and wants to emulate them?
The ancient Greeks regarded tiny genitals as a desirable trait. I’m not convinced that’s the best way to finish off a perfectly formed physique. Something is way out of proportion here.
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Come on man! It’s not the size that matters, it’s where you put it!
[quote]33breeze wrote:
thanks everyone. the grecian ideal is a model i would like to follow.[/quote]
If that’s what you want then thats your personal goal, but it’s better to look at your own body now and make a realistic goal on what you want to do, drop the magazine ad “greek statue body” type of thinking and improve yourself how you can develop it. The whole “grecian ideal” thing goes with the “summer beach abs!” pitch. It’s all bullshit to deceive you into buying magazines and books. Just start training, look up the tons of training info on this site and actually try it for longer than a week.
[quote]roybot wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
supabeast wrote:
I’m not convinced that’s the best way to finish off a perfectly formed physique. Something is way out of proportion here.
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You’re talking about his legs, right?
Since they were quite open minded when it came to sexuality I believe tiny penises are not an ideal itself.
Its more that a big dong would take away the focus.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Chris Colucci wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
I’m not certain about waist to chest girth, but obviously they shouldn’t be even close to similar.
According to Steve Reeves, you’d want a 20-24 inch difference between them.
33breeze wrote:
I was I asking because I saw a sudy online that said a bmi of 25 is ideal for longevity.
The BMI has zippo to do with anyone who’s ever touched a weight. Increasing your lean muscle mass, while decreasing your relative bodyfat, will be much more “ideal for longevity”, as well as increasing quality of life - muscles make people happy.
My brother-in-law has to pay extra for his health insurance because he’s borderline obese…at 6’1, 220 lbs, and 8-10% bodyfat (not sure exactly - he’s never held up a shoe for me). BMI’s a crock.
As for the Grecian ideal, I agree that you should look into the Grecian formula.[/quote]
This really pisses me off.
All I know is that I am 2kg off being overweight according to the BMI.
I can still see abs and I my current goal is to put on another 10kg of muscle. That should make me a bit bigger than the greek statues.
That and the fact that just about every person that plays a contact sport professionally would be considered overweight or obese tells me that the BMI is no good at determining if a person is healthy or not.
[quote]roybot wrote:
The ancient Greeks regarded tiny genitals as a desirable trait. I’m not convinced that’s the best way to finish off a perfectly formed physique. Something is way out of proportion here.
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Hey, you’d want it to be small if you had to put it in your butt too…
I’m just kidding, nobody get mad. ;p
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Since they were quite open minded when it came to sexuality I believe tiny penises are not an ideal itself.
Its more that a big dong would take away the focus.[/quote]
Fact: Tiny Dicks were part of the “ideal” athletic body because way back then when you wrestled or boxed to the death in the Olympic Games, you did it naked.
When you’re trying to murder your opponent in a wrestling match, and you’re naked, the last thing your naked ass needs is a 10 inch shlong that your opponent can easily curb stomp.
Couple that with (1) Pleasing a woman doesn’t really matter in that day and age AND (2) If you’re really getting your rocks off you’re probably fucking 12 year old boys.
Take all that into consideration and the Greeks probably didn’t think having a big dick was real important.
It’s either my explanation right there or Michelangelo figured if he put big dicks on all his statues everyone would think he was gay.
Really, how are you gonna tell the Pope or any other of your well established clients that you aren’t gay if you make statues of muscular, naked men with wedding tackle swingin’ past their knees?
2" at 80 mph is a bitch.