OK, I’ll start… This may get a bit controversial, but let me be clear, I consider these things to be utter myths…
Roid rage. (not that controversial actually, but the lowest hanging fruit.)
Test-flu. WTF is that? Testosterone is not a VIRUS and it can not cause the flu. I have read that something about the bodies metabolization of the ester causing an increase in body temp, but achy flu-like symptoms, now that’s nonsense… The AAS is dirty if it causes that.
HCG is useful as PCT. Why? It makes no sense that a drug that causes your body to stop producing it’s own LH would somehow be beneficial for PCT.
OK, what do ya’ll got? Or feel free to tell me I am wrong etc… Even though I know I’m not.
[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
OK, I’ll start… This may get a bit controversial, but let me be clear, I consider these things to be utter myths…
Roid rage. (not that controversial actually, but the lowest hanging fruit.)[/quote]
try halotestin. Then come back and say it isn’t real. Increased agression can be a very real side, anyone denying this need to pull his head out of his arse.
A murderous rampage or someone just going berserk could be the result of a combination of steroids and another thing(depression, booze, phychose, unstable character). Not bloody likely, but possible.
There is an article on T-Nation about this one, if I remember correctly it was a metabolite of testosterone regularing body temperature and causing a fever.
That still doesn’t change the fact that more is better. The additional effect might not be linear, but 2gr of test will work better than 1 gr or 500mg.
[quote]Malchir wrote:
That still doesn’t change the fact that more is better. The additional effect might not be linear, but 2gr of test will work better than 1 gr or 500mg.[/quote]
If you read what I wrote - you will notice I said that there are many that say magic happens when you hit 2g. And that is bullshit for about 99.99% of the public.
try halotestin. Then come back and say it isn’t real. Increased agression can be a very real side, anyone denying this need to pull his head out of his arse.
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People say a lot of stuff, unfortunately we’ll probably never know about halo because no university or other reputable scientific organization will ever sponsor a study on it. They do study test though, and there is no negative effect on mood in men taking test. I’ve never tried halo and I probably never will but every AAS I’ve used has improved my mood if anything.
The goal is not just to have large testes, the goal is to have large testes resulting from endogenous LH production. I’ve had peanut sized nuts before and a SERM pumped them up in less than two weeks. I fail to see how HCG helps kickstart the natural HPTA… But that’s because it doesn’t. lol
If you read what I wrote - you will notice I said that there are many that say magic happens when you hit 2g. And that is bullshit for about 99.99% of the public.
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Something you an pris can actually agree on!? J/K lol
If you read what I wrote - you will notice I said that there are many that say magic happens when you hit 2g. And that is bullshit for about 99.99% of the public.
Something you an pris can actually agree on!? J/K lol[/quote]
I’ve done a cycle with Halotestin. No rage. Granted, I’m a rather calm individual with no history of mental illness.
I’ve done a cycle in which, at one point, I was injecting 1.4g of Test. No different than the 850mg cycles prior to that.
And while HCG is not “necessary” for PCT, it is still a useful peptide hormone to aid recovery when used properly. Mild doses will indeed stimulate natural T production in the testes, however larger doses will negatively effect LH/FSH production. Less is more in this case.
Test-flu is not a myth. I have gotten flu like symptoms for a day or so after the first injection of a cycle. Achy and feeling like I’m just about to get sick without actually getting sick. I think that it is caused by your body treating the 1 or 2 ml of foreign substance that you have just injected like an infection. It’s more like injection-flu.
“3. HCG is useful as PCT. Why? It makes no sense that a drug that causes your body to stop producing it’s own LH would somehow be beneficial for PCT.”
If you let your testes shutdown and they shrink, hCG can be used to restore them to an operational state, then transition off of that and the testes will be LH responsive.
If you can source it, better to no use hCG all through your cycle and not have them shrink at all.
When on cycle your LH is stopped anyways, so adding hCG does not change that fact.
DB, I’ve been waiting for a chance to respond to your test-flu comments without hijacking someone’s thread, thanks
I don’t think test flu = real flu, but I will say that about a week into my first cycle I got what might as well have been the real flu for about 2 days. It was very miserable and very, very real. A fever of higher than 103, shaking, chills, clamminess, sore muscles, cold and hot sweats, weakness, badness.
It sucked Rosie O’Donnell’s sweaty balls and you are lucky not to get it. And take in mind I’m no hypochondriac. The last time I was sick AT ALL was over 5 years prior to this with pneumonia. I don’t get sick.
ASS cause liver and kidney failure, heart attacks, high cholesterol.
This seems to be a hold over from oral AAS. Injected AAS do not have these problems.
High cholesterol can be from orals or from AI use that pushes E2 too low.
Cholesterol increases as guys age, and their T levels also are falling. In many cases, testosterone replacement therapy will reduce total cholesterol by a large amount while typically not changing HDL levels.
Restoring T levels can reduce BP while also improving endothelial function. You do not want endothelial dysfunction.
