A Thanks to All

For a couple years I tried every workout you can imagine and stopped doing one after the other when I din’t get results overnight. I basically just threw some weight around without regard to diet and following a good program. Basically, I got zero results.

I found this site/forum and things started looking up. I decided to go with a total body program usually three times a week. More importantly, my diet is the number one focus of my life next to my family. I’m not seeing a lot of muscle gain but here is what has happened after 3.5 months:

Sex life- Just ask my wife. She now loves this site too! I’m guessing it’s the extra T from those huge compound lifts.

Mood- Much more postive and overall happier.

Work- I’m a cop. Now, when I encounter a “froggy” individual, I am much more confident because there is a 90 percent chance I’m much stronger than him because I do big compound lifts that make my head feel like it’s going to fucking explode.

So thanks everyone here for helping me!

I’m getting a call so I’ll post my question later.

Okay, so my question is this. Although I’m happy with my strength gains, and I am still moving up in weight consistently, I’m not seeing much muscle gain. Should I move on to a more elaborate program after almost four months of this?

I started with the Starr 5x5, then CW’s TBT. I feel my diet is pretty good. Lots of meat, veggies and good fats, around 2500-3200 a day. I almost never cheat. I drink Surge after every workout. I eat statchy carbs like oatmeal in the morning, and I sometimes load up on pasta after working out. Considering I’m still seeing gains, I’m hoping my diet is enough.

Despite my gains, I haven’t gained much noticeable muscle. I can’t help but think it’s the total body several times a week approach. Possibly I’m one of those who need more training on each body part AND more down time between training of each body part?

I know this has been discussed a million times on here, however, is 3-4 months on total body enough to see if it’s for me?

Btw. I’m 6-4 210, probably about 10-12 percent body fat. That’s another reason I think I’m eating enough if not too much, I haven’t lost a lot of fat. Oh well at least I’m strong and feel great.

Thanks for any advice.

I’m 140 and consuming 3000 calories per day. You’re 210 and consuming about the same as me…do see a problem here? You need to eat a lot more!

[quote]Digity wrote:
I’m 140 and consuming 3000 calories per day. You’re 210 and consuming about the same as me…do see a problem here? You need to eat a lot more![/quote]

I forgot, everybody is the same…

How are you, “not seeing muscle gains”?

if you’re adding weight, you have to see a difference, otherwise it’s been almost water only if you’re weight yourself everyday.

Read this:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=460331

Calculate your caloric needs. I guarantee you they’re over 3000 calories.

You could switch to splits 2-3 muscle groups a workout or focus on 1 muscle a day.

I’d do TBT to maintain, or just burn as much weight as possible and for overall health, endurance etc. But personally if I do more then 2 muscles in a workout I generally won’t have the energy to do the 3rd one properly.

It depends on how your body feels. If I was in your situation I’d switch to either 1 of the aforementioned styles. If you want power and strength you can make your main focus the rep range of 1-5.

**not including warmup sets of higher reps, or burnout sets afterwards, negatives etc.

If you want shape size and a bit of endurance I’d go with 8-12 reps give or take 1-2 reps either way. I’m not into EXACT reps as I can’t predict how you’ll feel on any given day.

** This also excludes any warmup set/rep numbers and also excludes any givens for heavier lifting afterwards.

I tend to mix it up with high rep warmups for flushing, 8-12 in the middle, and lower reps and heavier weights if I’m gnashing at the teeth wanting to conquer 3rd world countries.
I’m working for a mix of aesthetics and overall fitness strength. Though I have this power lifting streak that pops its ugly head out if I workout more then an hour.

Oh one pointed question. With protein requirements for real gains being at least 1 gram per 1lb of bodyweight.

How many grams are you taking? A full 210? or more?

The more I re-read your posts the more it sounds like you want some muscle tone besides the strength. One thing to note ~ Keep it up. More often then not the first 3 months serious is when you get strength, the looks start coming into play month 4 and beyond.

Do you do any steady cardio? What about Interval Cardio? Jump-roping/Swimming?

Anyways looking forward to your progress.

if the scales are not rising, you need more calories. simple. i eat over 3000 just to maintain and i am only 185 at 10-12%bf, 2500 when trying to shed a little fat.
stick with the program, if your strength numbers are going up anyway its working and 4 months is still a relatively short time. good maybe add sets/reduce rest but without knowing exactly what you do i wouldn’t be so presumptious to advise.
congratulations on your attention to your diet, good work.

Thanks for the responses. I was thinking more calories as well, however, I still have some fat around the waist and a little under my arms. I figured if I was in a deficit situation, I’d be leaner than this.

I actually like the idea of killing 2-3 muscle groups in a workout and letting them heal for a week. I enjoy going to failure, TUT sets, and etc. With TBT I have to be really careful because I’ll be doing it again in two days.

My only fear is that I am short changing myself by only working each group once per week. This really is the most frustrating thing to deal with.

A guy I work with has been doing splits for a year or so. We are very similar in natural size, only he has a good amount of muscle I dont remember seeing a year ago. Like me he was tall and thin. Now, I can probably bench and squat close to what he does, however, he has much more muscle to show for it. He does three day a week splits push/pull/legs 3x10.

So confused, but I’m going to keep doing my program until I make a decision.

I understand the science behind TBT, but proof is in the proverbial pudding…right? I am going to eat more.

Thanks again.

Try this one.
http://www.T-Nation.com/article/most_recent/stripped_down_hypertrophy