I am. Is that a problem?
[quote]Yogi wrote:
mate, you’re not pinning with the same needle you draw with, are you?[/quote]
Yeah I am done with the ephedrine and I am going to cut back the caffeine. Maybe just one or two cups of coffee a day.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
I don’t know what it was. I did have a fuck load of caffeine today and took and ephedrine pill for and extra boost since I have been sleeping like shit. I also took two tramadol to help me sleep.
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Um. this seems to be a much more likely culprit than the steroids. maybe take a look at these habits.[/quote]
[quote]A-rod wrote:
I am. Is that a problem?
[quote]Yogi wrote:
mate, you’re not pinning with the same needle you draw with, are you?[/quote]
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yeah man! Switch needles. Your injections’ll be way smoother. Going through a vial blunts them all to hell.
Well the slin pins I bought don’t have detachable needles and I don’t feel like backloading so I will have to deal with it. This is the only one that hurt and its because she bent the fuck out of the needle.
Do you atlesst have a AI on hand. I am fully with you on not using a AI unless needed but I would have immediate access just incase. Also if you have a standard pin to back load with it really would speed up the process and completely eliminate the chance of bending a needle and keeping it as sharp as possible.
Needles are cheap and reusing the drawing needle really defeats the purpose of a slinpin. To be honest you are doing better than most on their first cycle, but really no AI on hand? PCT plans? Just don’t really care?
The first few weeks of a cycle I always feel a bit odd. Sometimes it is a bit of test flu, sometimes just can’t seem to get settled easily. However it soon passes and then the fun begins. Be careful about pushing hard early on in a cycle. You really need to pay attention to your body and check your form. Nothing worse than aborting a cycle mid-way through because of an injury. Warming up, mobility, supplements, hot/cold therapy can really make a difference in your workouts. Good luck.
Do you monitor your blood pressure? Are you getting bloodwork done? BP monitoring is really important. Your RN friend should be able to help you there. Speaking of, hey if I had a cute RN to inject me I would probably ask too, but once you inject yourself a few times you will find it is so easy.
I didn’t say I didn’t have it on had. And PCT is pretty standard for such a simple cycle. We’ve all read the plethora of rate my cycle threads on here with the bros who probably don’t even end up running anything post their shit. So I am good on that. But in all honesty I was contemplating the B C lifestyle. I was surprised at how easy it was to pin and was thinking of pinning once a week for three months and then starting another cycle.
But I don’t know yet. As far as bp goes I guess its kinda shitty but I haven’t checked it yet but I will this saturday. I am supposed to get bloodworm tomorrow I really suspect this anxiety was related to E2 spike which I’ve read a lot about now.
Pushing it too hard too soon has been a concern of mine but I do 30 minutes minimum of warm ups cause I am pretty beat up.
Unfortunately the RN isn’t cute. I think she might have 20 lbs on me but she’s a real sweetheart and a lot of fun to hang out with.
Anyways thanks for the advice and stopping by. Really appreciated.
[quote]GoCal wrote:
Needles are cheap and reusing the drawing needle really defeats the purpose of a slinpin. To be honest you are doing better than most on their first cycle, but really no AI on hand? PCT plans? Just don’t really care?
The first few weeks of a cycle I always feel a bit odd. Sometimes it is a bit of test flu, sometimes just can’t seem to get settled easily. However it soon passes and then the fun begins. Be careful about pushing hard early on in a cycle. You really need to pay attention to your body and check your form. Nothing worse than aborting a cycle mid-way through because of an injury. Warming up, mobility, supplements, hot/cold therapy can really make a difference in your workouts. Good luck.
Do you monitor your blood pressure? Are you getting bloodwork done? BP monitoring is really important. Your RN friend should be able to help you there. Speaking of, hey if I had a cute RN to inject me I would probably ask too, but once you inject yourself a few times you will find it is so easy.[/quote]
Yeah I do but wouldn’t the effects be gradual if your e2 is getting high. I mean your not just gonna over night develop gyno. I do have a standard pin to backload but I am kind of a freak for sterility and backloading just adds another step that could lead to a lack of sterility.
[quote]Reed wrote:
Do you atlesst have a AI on hand. I am fully with you on not using a AI unless needed but I would have immediate access just incase. Also if you have a standard pin to back load with it really would speed up the process and completely eliminate the chance of bending a needle and keeping it as sharp as possible. [/quote]
How fast can you get an AI if you need it? I don’t know how you get your gear but things can go wrong with delivery. Better to have everything you could possibly need so you can’t get caught unprepared.
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Yeah I do but wouldn’t the effects be gradual if your e2 is getting high. I mean your not just gonna over night develop gyno. I do have a standard pin to backload but I am kind of a freak for sterility and backloading just adds another step that could lead to a lack of sterility.
[quote]Reed wrote:
Do you atlesst have a AI on hand. I am fully with you on not using a AI unless needed but I would have immediate access just incase. Also if you have a standard pin to back load with it really would speed up the process and completely eliminate the chance of bending a needle and keeping it as sharp as possible. [/quote][/quote]
Yeah for the most part is gradual. I also think it has more to do with the caffeine and not sleeping as well. I was just making sure you had it on just just in case. I fully agree with not adding the AI unless needed. As for back loading as long as your hands are sterile chances of contamination are pretty much no higher than any other method.
With that really the only reason to back load is one it is much faster and two if lets the slin pin stay as sharp as possible so pain and scarring is kept minimal. How ever your rotating enough spots and running a basic enough cycle your chances of scarring are pretty slim any way. So with that being said the only thing you will get would be some smoother injections and much quicker injections by back loading.
[quote]The-German wrote:
How fast can you get an AI if you need it? I don’t know how you get your gear but things can go wrong with delivery. Better to have everything you could possibly need so you can’t get caught unprepared.[/quote]
Already has it on hand just not using it.
here’s why I would always run my AI even if there’s no visible symptoms of high E:
-hepatic adenoma has been linked to high E. That’s bad.
-secondly, how many times have we had dudes on here claiming their libido is all fucked up after cycle? 9 times out of 10 it’s because they didn’t control their E. They didn’t have gyno or any noticeable bloating, so they thought everything was kosher, then they hit PCT and their test levels are in the shitter, but their E is still sky high.
It didn’t matter on cycle because the T:E ratio was fine, but now they’ve got a ridiculously high E and a ludicrously low T, it’s bad news. Shit like that can take months to get under control; chasing your tail with an AI trying to get your E down, then you accidentally nuke it too far so it’s too low and you feel like shit, then you get an E rebound and BAM! Gyno.
Some dudes do just fine never running an AI, but unless you happen to be one of the rare few who over-respond to AIs there’s just no sensible reason IMO not to do so. All it means is taking another little tiny pill every couple of days.
Cycle looks good
Help with mine?
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Thanks for stopping by ToolmanSam. Is that a play on Toucan sam? Its sad I haven’t seen Toucan Sam in years. He always made me want to stock up on the fruit loops.
As for fucking with pics. Nah bra I ain’t stretching them. Only thing getting stretched is my fleshlight every night once I log out of tnation. Is that too much? I hope not. Really though I don’t even know which pics you are referring to. Can’t I just be that wide cause I work out hard or does it have to be because I edited them or they got uploaded like that.
[quote]ToolManSam wrote:
This is an exciting log and I loom forward to following
Are you fucking with your pics though?
It looks like your stretching pics no. 2 & 4 out to look wider. Maybe it’s when the pics get uploaded onto the forum?
Keep us informed as you go along. I’ll be reading[/quote][/quote]
LMFAO. I haven’t seen Toucan Sam in years or that guy that goes kookoo for cocoa puffs
I am FULLY enjoying your thread “brah” and waiting to see your results. I wasn’t in any way trying to inflict insult or be an ass in any way. (I guess it just comes naturally for me, lol)
Anywayzzz…Keep the log going. I’ll be reading
As for juice making you anxious; yeah man IMO. Careful with the stims if you are sensitive
[quote]Yogi wrote:
here’s why I would always run my AI even if there’s no visible symptoms of high E:
-hepatic adenoma has been linked to high E. That’s bad.
-secondly, how many times have we had dudes on here claiming their libido is all fucked up after cycle? 9 times out of 10 it’s because they didn’t control their E. They didn’t have gyno or any noticeable bloating, so they thought everything was kosher, then they hit PCT and their test levels are in the shitter, but their E is still sky high.
It didn’t matter on cycle because the T:E ratio was fine, but now they’ve got a ridiculously high E and a ludicrously low T, it’s bad news. Shit like that can take months to get under control; chasing your tail with an AI trying to get your E down, then you accidentally nuke it too far so it’s too low and you feel like shit, then you get an E rebound and BAM! Gyno.
Some dudes do just fine never running an AI, but unless you happen to be one of the rare few who over-respond to AIs there’s just no sensible reason IMO not to do so. All it means is taking another little tiny pill every couple of days.[/quote]
To each their own on this I guess. I personally struggled like crazy to get my E2 under control after my 1st cycle. I couldn’t start my 2nd cycle when I wanted because I was still to high
But…some people will NEVER use an AI and not have any probs. without bloods tho it is difficult to understand if you are or are not having issue
Don’t come to my log asking for help with your cycle. I think you should work on your diet and training if this is your fourth cycle and your under 200 lbs. But then again maybe you don’t want to look big and bulky.
[quote]blooddrunk.n wrote:
Cycle looks good
Help with mine?
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/first_tren_cycle_planning?pageNo=0[/quote]
So fourth pin was yesterday. Virtually no pip. I was kind of shocked at how quickly my muscle adjusted. Also that anxiety only lasted for that night and a little the next day before dissipating. Feel pretty fucking awesome now. I was unfortunately unable to get both the blood work and my bp checked. My nurse friend was going to check the bp but didn’t have it here equipment for it. Either way I am taking tomorrow off to go get a suit for a job fair so that maybe I can get out of this god awful backbreaking blue collar shit I am doing now and while I am doing that I am gonna get my blood drawn and bp checked. I will share the results when I get them.
Training is going well. Getting stronger. Finally started gaining some weight. I remember reading the logs for super dmx 3.0 at the iron mag labs forum and some of these guys at the end of their month cycle were talking about how they gained 15-20 lbs and how their strength shot up threw the roof. Now I am stronger and I’ve gained weight. I feel its too soon to attribute it to the test and its not a whole lot of weight or strength maybe around 5 lbs or so and thats just over the half way point. I don’t know how the fuck these guys gained that much weight. Yeah everyones different I get that but still. Its my suspicion that they must have used the cycle as an excuse just to stuff their face with everything. Either that or iron mags was paying these people to talk up their product.
Also I was curious about potential water retention that test e is know to cause. Obviously an AI could help remedy this as well as keeping an eye on sodium in take but could 20-40 minuet sauna sessions also help with this?
yeah man, you’ll see daft internet logs where people claim like 30lbs gain off of stupid shit like a 6 week drol only cycle. It’s a load of internet bravado horse shit.
All told, 6 weeks after PCT if you’ve kept a solid 10lbs of muscle then your cycle is a success.
Well I think my E2 is too high and I fear I may not be impervious to e2 related sides. Man I was hoping that I would be one of those guys who could run gear without a care in the world. I mean I got fucked with height, got fucked with muscle shape at least let me respond favorably to gear.
Anyways I am going to use my anastrazole. Unfortunately its in liquid form and I am sure tastes like roasted ass hole. Should I go for .25 eod I was thinking of .5 eod because I have noticed a knot like the size of a dry black bean in my nips and they are a little bit painful if I push on them. Sounds weird I know. But there is no visible gyno whatsoever.
So I am not sure if this is more psychological. Maybe there has always been that bean size tissue there and I am just taking notice to it.
Also: Bp 105/70 so thats good and my blood panel should be back in three days.
Heres a recent pic. Do I look swoll yet? I think I look a bit bigger. I kind of wish I had started this cycle leaner though.
