So I’ve decided to run my first cycle and decided I would log my experience here.
Stats:
Age:25
Height: 5’9
Current weight: 180-184
Years training: Solid consistent 4.5 years
Squat max: 450
DL max 500
bench: 285
These are all maxes from before I decided to cut weight last year from a sloppy 205 to not lean enough to have justified the cut 175. I hoping to surpass these maxes but at a much leaner composition.
I do not have any measurements of arms , legs or chest but I will measure those tomorrow.
So my goals are pretty typical gain size, strength and lose body fat. I train more as a bodybuilder would. High volume. I usually do one serious heavy exercise where goal is to move heavy weight then I go into higher reps/pump work. Ideally I would love to end this cycle at 205 lbs.
So my cycle:
wk 1-4 dmz 3.0
wk 2-13 test e 750 a week.
followed by pct
I will be running this oral by iron mag labs called DMZ 3.0. Its a combination of three “pro-hormones” The main one being dymethazine. I know there are some haters on orals but I am confidant it will be a nice kick start. I started it a week before the test because I didn’t have the test yet and grew impatient.
So I am going for test e at 750 a week but I kinda think that might not be necessary and I could just get away with 500.
So here are a few pics of me now taken literally like 10 minutes ago. Its not the best lighting and I am not the best poser but this is just to give an idea and also for comparison when my cycle is done.
Oh also. I want to pin with insulin pens since those are readily available to me. What is your guys opinions on that. I could def pin my delts with them and I think I am lean enough to where I could do my quads with them too.
Well I for one am excited for this log and hope you the best. If you start with 500 run it for 8 weeks and then bump it to 750 when your start to see progress kinda slow there for another nice boost.
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Oh also. I want to pin with insulin pens since those are readily available to me. What is your guys opinions on that. I could def pin my delts with them and I think I am lean enough to where I could do my quads with them too.[/quote]
I missed this last time.
I’m a big fan of using slin pins. If you’re only injecting a ml at a time they’re great.
I’ve never used them on my quads, but I’ve used them on my delts a million times.
Well guys I’ve bit the bullet as they say. I did my first injection yesterday 1ml in the delt. I had a whole lot of thoughts going threw my mind as I was getting ready to do it. It seemed kind of surreal that I had reached a point where I was planning on injecting myself with this golden elixir in the pursuit of muscle and strength. I couldn’t help but think that I must certainly be somewhat off in the head for doing this. But I shot it up and kept on moving like there was nothing to it. I blame the stigmatization of was by the “lame stream media” haha which has 99 % of the population brainwashed. So all my friends if I were to share this journey of mine with them would judge the hell out of me but meanwhile this coming weekend wouldn’t think twice about doing a line of blow in the club if someone offered it to them.
Anyways I used slin pins. Was looking to see if they had 28 gauge at the pharmacy but they only had 30 gauge which has 12.7 mm needle. I was nervous that I wouldn’t be able to get the liquid in but it came out no problem just took a little time. I didn’t need to backload it. Pinned right to my delt with practically no pain although it did take two minutes or so to inject all of it into the delt. No injection site pain. Today which is the day after and I hit chest and also did lateral raises with no problems arising from injection pain. Although it does feel like I was punch really hard in the shoulder. The area is tender to the touch. I think I will rotate between shoulders and quads.
Ok so I thought this oral I am taking, super dmx 3.0, was bullshit because 7-8 days I was not noticing any effects and then out of no where it hit me and it hit me hard. My strength and endurance shot up and I becoming significantly more vascular. This is all fine and dandy but in regards to the increase in vascularity I was slightly disconcerted because it is not as if this vascularity arose because I dropped 2 % in body fat in one week. I suspected that such sudden increase in vascularity must be a result of in an Increase in blood pressure. This worries me. Maybe I am being paranoid though. I did feel as if my heart was beating a little harder then normal today during my workout.
Secondly I noticed two other things. I have been kinda fatigued the last two days. This could be because A. I am tired cause I bust my ass at work and have had shitty sleep or B. I am having a side effect to the oral. I am not sure which I will see tomorrow for sure.
Thirdly my appetite the last day has seemed to have decreased. Now I drank a lot of coffee and red bulls because I was really tired and whenever I do this I sometimes lost my appetite so it could be that or the oral again I do not know and will wait for tomorrow to find out for sure. I am seriously considering dropping the oral though.
Ok so I said I would list my measurements to compare from start to finish
Arms: 16
waist: 32 but I swear it has to be smaller then that.
Forarm: 13.5
Calf: 15
Quad right above knee: 16.5
Mid/upper thigh: 25
neck: 16.5
Upper Torso: 50.5
Wrist: 7
All measurements are in inches just to let you know.
Ok I know this is long. I hope you guys enjoyed it if you took the time to read it. I want to really document my experience here. Most logs I have read here, no offense to anyone who may have logged here, have left something to be desired. I am hoping to fill that void with my experience.
Yeah, they really are great. I got such a a negative impression of them though based on the forums in which I read about them though. I read a lot of posts where people said something along the lines of good luck pushing the oils through such a tiny needle the plunger probably won’t move. So I was not expecting my experience to be so easy.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Oh also. I want to pin with insulin pens since those are readily available to me. What is your guys opinions on that. I could def pin my delts with them and I think I am lean enough to where I could do my quads with them too.[/quote]
I missed this last time.
I’m a big fan of using slin pins. If you’re only injecting a ml at a time they’re great.
I’ve never used them on my quads, but I’ve used them on my delts a million times. [/quote]
[quote]Reed wrote:
Well I for one am excited for this log and hope you the best. If you start with 500 run it for 8 weeks and then bump it to 750 when your start to see progress kinda slow there for another nice boost.[/quote]
The oral’s probably making you feel a bit off. Persevere, you’ll be alright in a few days. That DMZ stuff is supposed to be strong as hell so I wouldn’t drop it. 4 weeks of feeling like shit isn’t so bad.
Yes very true. I mean it is certainly working. It was literally like one day I was normal and the next day I was significantly more vascular, denser looking and better muscle shape. I lift because it makes me feel good though and I love it but if this stuff makes me feel like shit it defeats the purpose wouldn’t you think. Either way I shall persevere as you suggested. I can do 20 more days.
Also, I take back what I said about no pain on the injection site. My shoulder hurts pretty fucking bad now. Is this normal? How long should this persist? I am nervous thinking maybe I am allergic to the oil or something. I felt to see if their was a hard lump where I would assume the oil would be if the body rejected it but could not find one.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
The oral’s probably making you feel a bit off. Persevere, you’ll be alright in a few days. That DMZ stuff is supposed to be strong as hell so I wouldn’t drop it. 4 weeks of feeling like shit isn’t so bad.[/quote]
[quote]Yogi wrote:
The oral’s probably making you feel a bit off. Persevere, you’ll be alright in a few days. That DMZ stuff is supposed to be strong as hell so I wouldn’t drop it. 4 weeks of feeling like shit isn’t so bad.[/quote]
I’ve read good things about DMZ as well. It’s cheap enough I may buy some while I still can, along with the MSten you’re such a fan of.
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Yes very true. I mean it is certainly working. It was literally like one day I was normal and the next day I was significantly more vascular, denser looking and better muscle shape. I lift because it makes me feel good though and I love it but if this stuff makes me feel like shit it defeats the purpose wouldn’t you think. Either way I shall persevere as you suggested. I can do 20 more days.[/quote]
Well if you feel TERRIBLE then yeah, drop it, but most orals make people feel a bit lethargic and sick. Dianabol makes me feel amazing when I’m in the gym but I feel like shit the rest of the time. Prostate feels like I’m sitting on a lime. Worth it though! haha
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Also, I take back what I said about no pain on the injection site. My shoulder hurts pretty fucking bad now. Is this normal? How long should this persist? I am nervous thinking maybe I am allergic to the oil or something. I felt to see if their was a hard lump where I would assume the oil would be if the body rejected it but could not find one.[/quote]
[quote]Yogi wrote:
The oral’s probably making you feel a bit off. Persevere, you’ll be alright in a few days. That DMZ stuff is supposed to be strong as hell so I wouldn’t drop it. 4 weeks of feeling like shit isn’t so bad.[/quote]
I’ve read good things about DMZ as well. It’s cheap enough I may buy some while I still can, along with the MSten you’re such a fan of.[/quote]
Its funny I definitely noticed feeling great in the gym and the first couple hours after working out and then feeling like shit. I think I will be fine. Felt way better today.
Yeah this virgin muscle better toughen the fuck up. I am gonna pin in my quad tomorrow so that should be a fun couple of days. I figured I would alternate between delt and quad. Four injection sites through out the cycle. Also I was planning on pinning every three days as opposed to like a pin on a Monday pin on a Friday sort of schedule.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Yes very true. I mean it is certainly working. It was literally like one day I was normal and the next day I was significantly more vascular, denser looking and better muscle shape. I lift because it makes me feel good though and I love it but if this stuff makes me feel like shit it defeats the purpose wouldn’t you think. Either way I shall persevere as you suggested. I can do 20 more days.[/quote]
Well if you feel TERRIBLE then yeah, drop it, but most orals make people feel a bit lethargic and sick. Dianabol makes me feel amazing when I’m in the gym but I feel like shit the rest of the time. Prostate feels like I’m sitting on a lime. Worth it though! haha
There have actually been a couple products marketed with the name dmz in it. The first one I heard of was DMZ extreme which was strictly Dymethaenzine and then there was DMZ 2.0 and 3.0 which is the one I am taking. DMZ 3.0 has DMZ naturally as well as m-sten and Alpha-1.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
The oral’s probably making you feel a bit off. Persevere, you’ll be alright in a few days. That DMZ stuff is supposed to be strong as hell so I wouldn’t drop it. 4 weeks of feeling like shit isn’t so bad.[/quote]
I’ve read good things about DMZ as well. It’s cheap enough I may buy some while I still can, along with the MSten you’re such a fan of.[/quote]
If I remember rightly, DMZ has m sten in it.[/quote]
