Well I am kinda lean but even if I was leaner I don’t think those slin pins would come close to deep enough. Maybe I will stick to my deltoids.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
no love for the glutes? Quad pins cripple me for a week. Not trying to scare you or anything though! lol[/quote]
do you lift at a creche?
No I’ve never heard of that place. I lift at Golds in the DC metropolitan area.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
do you lift at a creche?[/quote]
[quote]A-rod wrote:
No I’ve never heard of that place. I lift at Golds in the DC metropolitan area.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
do you lift at a creche?[/quote]
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lol
google ‘creche’
Haha well I am an idiot. According to Merriam-Webster its
A set of statues that represents the scene of Jesus Christ’s birth and that is displayed during Christmas.
A place where young children are cared for during the day while their parents are working : a day care center.
Clearly he means the second. Given my surroundings it is a legitimate question. The Gold’s I lift at has a daycare center which closes after 8. It was the only place empty which I could take my shirt off to snap the photo. Didn’t want to take my shirt off and have people look at me as she takes my photo. Then they would really think I am a douche.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
No I’ve never heard of that place. I lift at Golds in the DC metropolitan area.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
do you lift at a creche?[/quote]
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lol
google ‘creche’[/quote]
So second pin today. Really excited for it to kick in. Hopefully the test will help stimulate an appetite cause this oral is kinda putting a damper on that. Sometimes I can eat and sometimes I take a bite and already feel full.
Anyways was watching videos on steroids and keeping gains made on them and came across this guys opinion on it. He does not think its possible. Heres a link to the video. I would really like to get other opinions on this. While this is my first cycle I find it hard to believe you lose all of your gains.
you don’t lose all your gains, don’t worry about it. If you are like 50lbs above your genetic ceiling then yeah, you’ll shrink down to the maximum size you could achieve without the drugs (or slightly bigger), but the idea you lose all your gains is retarded.
I do 2 cycles a year max, I ALWAYS keep 90% of my gains, and my test levels recover just fine.
This is an exciting log and I loom forward to following
Are you fucking with your pics though?
It looks like your stretching pics no. 2 & 4 out to look wider. Maybe it’s when the pics get uploaded onto the forum?
Keep us informed as you go along. I’ll be reading
[quote]A-rod wrote:
So second pin today. Really excited for it to kick in. Hopefully the test will help stimulate an appetite cause this oral is kinda putting a damper on that. Sometimes I can eat and sometimes I take a bite and already feel full.
Anyways was watching videos on steroids and keeping gains made on them and came across this guys opinion on it. He does not think its possible. Heres a link to the video. I would really like to get other opinions on this. While this is my first cycle I find it hard to believe you lose all of your gains.
I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on what this guy says. I think guys who loose gainz off cycle throttle everything back and only diet train hard when they are juicing
You’ll definitely loose some “weight” if you bloat on cycle but that’s a good thing. I think you also won’t carry what I call “steroid pumps” each day…not sure if this is scientificalky proven but from the 1 cycle I did I felt like I always carried a pump and doing anything pumped me up a somewhat. When you go off I feel flatter, if that makes sense
Dude you won’t lose your gains because you are at a level where you will know how to maintain them after the cycle.
But, of course, you will lose a lot of water weight that’s not maintainable without assistance.
Yeah I share this sentiment as well but I really respect the opinion of the individual in the video. He has been in the scene a long long time and paid his dues. He makes it seemed like your totally fucked the moment you do that first pin. Which as you stated is retarded.
There is just so many opinions and idiotic view points floating around there. Like the assumption that you have to run anastrozole. It seems like every proposed cycle I read about on a forum has the people running it from day 1. I don’t see why you would run another powerful ass compound like that unless you know for sure you are going to need it.
In my opinion the AI is way more potent and “harmful” if you will of a compound then the actual test. Like I would be more concerned with ingesting that AI and what it would do to my body then pinning 500 mg of test a week. Just my opinion though.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
you don’t lose all your gains, don’t worry about it. If you are like 50lbs above your genetic ceiling then yeah, you’ll shrink down to the maximum size you could achieve without the drugs (or slightly bigger), but the idea you lose all your gains is retarded.
I do 2 cycles a year max, I ALWAYS keep 90% of my gains, and my test levels recover just fine.[/quote]
Thanks for stopping by ToolmanSam. Is that a play on Toucan sam? Its sad I haven’t seen Toucan Sam in years. He always made me want to stock up on the fruit loops.
As for fucking with pics. Nah bra I ain’t stretching them. Only thing getting stretched is my fleshlight every night once I log out of tnation. Is that too much? I hope not. Really though I don’t even know which pics you are referring to. Can’t I just be that wide cause I work out hard or does it have to be because I edited them or they got uploaded like that.
[quote]ToolManSam wrote:
This is an exciting log and I loom forward to following
Are you fucking with your pics though?
It looks like your stretching pics no. 2 & 4 out to look wider. Maybe it’s when the pics get uploaded onto the forum?
Keep us informed as you go along. I’ll be reading[/quote]
Thanks for having faith in me Dt79. Wish my Dad believed in me the way you do haha. Yeah as I mentioned in my response to Yogi I do not think that I would lose the gains as Mr. Ward noted in the video. There is just so many conflicting viewpoints and opinions out there. The only way to really find out is to try it myself.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
Dude you won’t lose your gains because you are at a level where you will know how to maintain them after the cycle.
But, of course, you will lose a lot of water weight that’s not maintainable without assistance. [/quote]
Ok I figure I will throw a little update out there while I am here. I am two weeks into running the DMZ and yesterday I did my second pin of the test. Today at the gym I hit delts. I weighed myself and came in at 186ish in my workout clothes normally weigh between 180 and 184 in them.
So that is a couple lbs up. I am slowly increasing the volume of food I eat because in the past I made the big mistake of embracing the permabulk lifestyle and I never want to do that again. I did not get too fat but I was too fat from my comfort so never again. Strength is jumping up nicely. I was able to rep out the hundred lb dumbbells on seated overhead press.
Last week I only managed the 90s for 5 reps. At my strongest I was able to squeeze out I think 5 shitty reps with the 110s but that was at a fatter 205ish body weight. So its nice to know I am almost as strong in this area as I was when I was 20 lbs heavier.
Interesting side note. When I started lifting I noticed I was not as vascular and looked kinda bloated I guess. My veins weren’t popping out as they just recently have started to. At the end up my work out though the veins had revealed themselves. Now this wasn’t due to just the pump. Why does this happen.
I know it has to do with the carbs being used/ digested but I really don’t know the specific details of why something like this happens. I should though and feel stupid for not knowing so if someone would care to enlighten me I would be very grateful.
Took my third pin today. I am having an RN girl who I went to high school with do the injections. She bent the needle a bit when drawing from the vial and it kinda pinched me when she stuck me.
So far things are going good two and a half weeks into the oral and one and a half with the test e. I am only up 4ish lbs. I could say more depending on how I want to gauge my starting weight since it fluctuated from 175ish to 180ish but I am sticking with 180 as the starting weight. Strength shot up today. It was kind of crazy. Flat bench has been and awful movement for me since my shoulders are all fucked up even at my strongest I never repped anything higher then 225 for 10-12.
Today I did that but with paused reps. Eventually I hit 275 for 5 reps. This really surprised the hell out of me. I mean that is a huge increase real fast. I kinda think I could hit 315 for reps by the end of this cycle. Only if my shoulder doesn’t crap out on me. I almost pushed it too far trying to get that 275 up on the last rep. I wonder if the increase in strength is still only due to the oral or if the test e is starting to kick in.
I am gonna throw up some pics in a couple days to show the differences which to me are already evident.
On a sidenote I almost had a full-blown panic attack earlier tonight. At last that is what I think it was. I got really anxious my skin began to tingle and I was have crazy thoughts that I was dying. Almost woke up my dad to take me to the ER but I hoped n the shower for 30 mins and calmed myself down. I don’t know what it was. I did have a fuck load of caffeine today and took and ephedrine pill for and extra boost since I have been sleeping like shit. I also took two tramadol to help me sleep.
There is no way the gear could cause anxiety or panic attacks right? It fucking sucked was not a good feeling. I am not prone to this sort of shit so it really caught me off guard I was just sitting watching tv.
Anyways hopefully you all are still reading and hopefully I will have better updates for you all in the future.
You could be aromatizing, elevated E2 causing anxiety. You may want to test it, at least to rule it out, it’s cheap. Rethink AI.
I am on TRT, when estrogen climbed up I felt anxiety. I then crashed it with Adex and felt empty inside. Now it’s in the mid 20s and I feel fine. Some guys need tighter control on E2.
mate, you’re not pinning with the same needle you draw with, are you?
[quote]A-rod wrote:
I don’t know what it was. I did have a fuck load of caffeine today and took and ephedrine pill for and extra boost since I have been sleeping like shit. I also took two tramadol to help me sleep.
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Um. this seems to be a much more likely culprit than the steroids. maybe take a look at these habits.
