A Neurotic Dieter + Doggcrapp Training = The Most Detailed Log on T-Nation Ever

Oh well, stuff like this happens from time to time. If it only happens every once in a while it’s not a big deal, and even less so if it’s protein you’re overeating.

When I tried Cycle diet my cheat days were usually around 600-700 grams of protein and I didn’t even track it or try to eat a lot of it. Foods with a lot of protein just taste so damn good.

No cheat days yet. Only been a week after all

Observations

  1. Without attempting to, I’m eating a diet on the low carb side.

  2. Waking up feeling great.

  3. I am okay with losing weight quickly so long as I do not feel horrible.

That’s about all. I’m. Supposed to train today if I am going every other day but might skip due to lower calories and work obligations.

I hope work doesn’t start to be an impediment. I need to earn a lot for a family thing and that has to become priority.

DC is great in that way - it doesn’t take a lot of time, just an hour three times per week, so you have more time to work and do other stuff that’s important to you

So it seems that you naturally gravitate towards the low carb - approach and apparently it works great for you

I’d say that’s great

Whoa hold on there partner. I want nothing more than to eat ice cream and donuts. Actually, as a former fat boy I think that’s how I may crave forever.

Nah, I still absolutely have to keep myself in check.

Oh, here’s a good article. Classic t-nation stuff.

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One would imagine that these cravings fade with time, but frankly only time will tell

I’ve got to do that too - I can down 7000-8000 calories in a day without breaking a sweat because I used to eat like that in the past

If I had a “cheat day” it would probably just be 8000 Calories worth of beef, pasta and eggs (I’be never cared about donuts and that stuff, so I’m lucky in a way)

So for me it’s maybe a bit easier because I can eat the foods I crave on a daily basis

I’ve read that article in the past, it’s a good text, but nothing earth shattering

Not sure if it is because I am not at work as is my usual schedule (sunday is an off-ish day where I work afternoons), but I am craving practically everything right now, and not eating is not fun right now.

Will keep busy but almost want a cheat day today actually.

Am certain it’ll pass, but I’m also sure that I’ve dropped considerable fat this week with the supplements and gym time so will need to push forward.

Sounds like a punishment from Greek mythology…

Have your liver eaten by a bird every day… Push a stone uphill forever… Crave everything but get no food

It’s psychological.
I believe it’s a big part of the obesity epidemic worldwide.
People think they are hungry when they are not. Because it’s “time to eat”

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That’s probably true

It is absolutely true.
We are creatures of habit.

These habits run our lives. Together they form paradigms which are the reason for success or fail.

If you’ve been around fitness long enough, and you know people who change, they change a myriad of habits which are actually a fully functioning way of living their lives.

For example.

I have a problem with eating things like commercial pizza more than occasionally, and more than a slice at a time.

For the most part, my attitudes towards that (and fast food) which I used to eat almost EVERY DAY changed and my created a completely different thought pattern towards it.

The idea of it tasting good was replaced with the fact that if I needed 2500 calories in a day, I would be eating half that in one meal and physically doing myself damage.

I know it sounds strange, but why do people do what they do?
They do it because of habit and paradigms.

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Not a big huge binge, just some extra carbs.
Home made dough.
Yum

YUCK TODAY

The pizza was pretty low fat.
The only fat coming from the 1 egg and the 7.5 oz mozzarella and the pepperoni.

The point is that last night I slept like trash and woke up reflecting that this morning. I cannot understand it, but that is how it works sometimes.

In terms of carbs, I also ate a box of Honey Chex cereal which is low fat, 28g carbs per serving.

In all, I ended up with a LOT of carbs in, and woke up feeling fine. No bloat, and was down 3 lb from last week.

Considering the carbs I slammed, I assume some of that is fat, because I should have close to no water retention.

if 3 lbs of actual body tissue (not water), that is pretty darn fast weight loss. better watch that

I’m considering dropping DC for now because of these wild up and downs. If I am dieting, it may not be feasible to run this with my recovery abilities.

I need to diet this off as @danteism said and I agree with him there.

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It makes me sad to lose the only DC log here, but in the end it’s up to you to decide what you want to do

Just make sure to stick to whatever plan you decide to follow

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I don’t want to drop it. I think maybe something as simple as cutting the widow maker sets (if I feel a need to based on recovery) may be enough, or do a legit carb backloading on lifting days where I actually eat a small surplus three days a week?

I think if I did 3 days a week sort of like a leangains type deal. Funny because I never thought that the leangains “recovery” idea was that legit and always figured it to be better to just run the same calories.

If I ate a heavy (400g) carb day post workout. I’ll try that.

DC IS THE BEST TRAINING I’VE EVER DONE. I WON’T QUIT.

Also, my workout days will need to be

  • Saturday
  • Monday
  • Wednesday

I took on an extra night shift Friday and possibly Sunday to help my broker.

The other days I’ll do cardio.
Today is a lifting day.

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That sounds like a plan, you’ll just need to have a bit bigger deficit on the rest of the days

That’s the spirit!

Good to know you are still seeing progress and enjoy the training. I am implementing DC into my program in 2 weeks based off of Wendlers recommendation of the rest pause work in Beyond 5/3/1. He was a big proponent of DC style training especially rest pause work and I noticed the program in his book this weekend while looking for my next cycle.

Wow cool.
There aren’t that many resources on it.
If you have any questions, one of the best forums is intense muscle (we can’t link due to forum spam)…

Use tapatalk (i used to hate that app due to its constant nagging on forums) and you can browse it on your phone.

There is a section called the puppy pound with dozens of sticky threads there on the training.

I do not post there because they really do say that unless you are at almost elite status on the big three you should not so DC.

Here’s a great starting point

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I’ll use an intermittent fasting calculator. I can do 2000 kcal a day high protein high fat on off days. Standing on my head as they (who? Citation needed) say

With tapatalk there is the problem that you can’t (or at least I think so) set the “show thread” - settings to “show threads from the beginning” so you are only seeing a couple of the newest threads in addition to the stickies. Of course that may be a good thing for someone who’s new to the system, but personally I enjoy reading the older topics also (I think there are like 300 pages of topics, with tapatalk you can see about 0.5 pages)

Butbi got to say that tapatalk is really handy for checking the stickies, it works a lot better than the browser version (if you’re on your phone)

That’s a new one