[quote]ZEB wrote:
I’m sure they ate a lot of meat when they had it, but they didn’t have it often I don’t think. How many times do you think ancient man had the pleasure of having that much kill laying around? Red meat as in big nasty animals were very hard to kill. No doubt they gorged on it when they had it, but it was rare.[/quote]
have you ever seen the savannah in the rain season? as in, it’s FULL of food. now imagine it 200000 years ago, before humans reduced the animal population. think of north america and all the game; bison, deer etc that were all killed off. there was lots of game available, and it wasn’t that hard to hunt.
[quote]Nikhil Rao wrote:
Argh, the simple truth is that religious fanatics are religious fanatics. It doesn’t matter whether they’re AGW freaks, bible-thumpers, vegetarian/vegans, or Gandhi for that matter. What makes them religious fanatics is that they have a belief and will selectively edit info to fit their preconceived notions.
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Internet High 5. I agree the problem is that highly educated individuals who are sought after for their knowledge of the disease process think they know everything about the human body. What kills me is the fat overweight “professionals” who try to lecture on diet and excercise. Most of this mentality is the older or middle aged Dr who was in school during the time when all this type of data was produced and they do not keep up with current data. Newer Dr’s have a better knowledge of nutrition in my opinion or Dr’s who actually work out and do what they preach.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Internet High 5. I agree the problem is that highly educated individuals who are sought after for their knowledge of the disease process think they know everything about the human body. What kills me is the fat overweight “professionals” who try to lecture on diet and excercise. Most of this mentality is the older or middle aged Dr who was in school during the time when all this type of data was produced and they do not keep up with current data. Newer Dr’s have a better knowledge of nutrition in my opinion or Dr’s who actually work out and do what they preach.
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I agree. When I asked my doc for a physical and to run some bloodwork (which came back with awesome numbers, I ought to note), he asked about my diet, and then gave me a bunch of crap for it.
I might have been a bit harsh in return, but I know that he hasn’t taken a nutrition course since medical school sometime in the 70s-80s, and on top of that if the course was anything like my fiance’s (he’s currently in med school), it was only two weeks long, bare bones, and based on the instructor’s opinion and popular science.
Some doctors are motivated to keep up with things, but it’s not really “their field.” My fiance and I talk nutrition all of the time, but his peers took their two week overviews and were done with it.
And considering the people actually “in” the nutrition field: my instructors all follow ADA guidelines; I only have one instructor who knows her stuff, and she worked with Dr. Lonnie Lowery for a few years. My peers are mostly women following 1200 kcal/day diets and spinning every day.
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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Those fuckers need to read “The Vegetarian Myth”.
Our teeth, digestive tracts… everything points to a flesh-based diet.
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The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability. By Lierre Keith
This book is awesome!
Another great website. As a bioanthropologist (i.e. human evolutionary biologist) and a physician I can vouch for the science in most of the articles there I’ve seen.
[quote]Nikhil Rao wrote:
Another great website. As a bioanthropologist (i.e. human evolutionary biologist) and a physician I can vouch for the science in most of the articles there I’ve seen.[/quote]
I sure wish you posted more. The discussions might actually be interesting.
[quote]Nikhil Rao wrote:
As for osteoporosis, somehow I seriously doubt that the type of people who eat high protein diets (lifters and other athletes) are going to have that problem. The bone-growth stimulus from weight training far outweighs the bone-loss effect of alkalinized diet. I see a lot of old people. It’s rarely the high-protein, heavy-lifting, highly active old people that are stooped so far down they look at their toes. That’s the sedentary carb-loving group.
As for longevity, anyone into old time strongman? A LOT of those old farts lived into their 80s and were active the whole time. If someone gave me the choice between being 80 and still being highly active and strong as sin like Ed Zercher, Otto Arco, Charles Atlas, or George Hackenschmidt, or living into my 90s as a decrepit, demented, old person in a wheelchair, well I’ll pick the former.
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I thought that a high protein diet actually helped prevent Osteoporosis due to the strengthening of the collegen protein matrix in the bones themselves? Not to mention that weight training inproves bone density aswell
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[quote]Nikhil Rao wrote:
Another great website. As a bioanthropologist (i.e. human evolutionary biologist) and a physician I can vouch for the science in most of the articles there I’ve seen.[/quote]
I sure wish you posted more. The discussions might actually be interesting.[/quote]
I work 80h, train 15h, have a research career, and try to write articles for this site and print pubs too. I’m a little busy lol.