[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Nice to see things have turned around after that flu like crap you were going through.
Just out of curiousity, whats your age/height?[/quote]
I am 25 and 6’2.
Nothing spectacular, but I weigh 240.2 this morning. I wish for more, but honestly with me struggling to eat I will take what I can get.
I also am planning on starting my insulin next week. I need to get some more maltodextrin before I start but as Bushy suggested I may go with AM insulin and PWO injections as well (5iu) each.
The 1 pound weight gain is not great by any means however as I mentioned before I am quite a bit leaner now than I was 2 weeks into my cycle and my legs feel very strong. I hope to get a few more pounds of muscle out of my insulin use before going on to use IGF as the end.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Nothing spectacular, but I weigh 240.2 this morning. I wish for more, but honestly with me struggling to eat I will take what I can get.
I also am planning on starting my insulin next week. I need to get some more maltodextrin before I start but as Bushy suggested I may go with AM insulin and PWO injections as well (5iu) each.
The 1 pound weight gain is not great by any means however as I mentioned before I am quite a bit leaner now than I was 2 weeks into my cycle and my legs feel very strong. I hope to get a few more pounds of muscle out of my insulin use before going on to use IGF as the end.
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Hey 2the, I been following but haven't posted in a good long while. Looks and sounds like you're doing a great job so far bro. Keep up the killer job of logging, and working out. It's looking like you're going to be one muscled up mother fucker x 10 here pretty damn soon.
great job,
ToneBone
Ahh… thanks for the info. Only reason I asked is that I found it rather amusing that you, swartz and I are all relatively close to the same weight and height.
How many weeks did you plan to run your cycle for? Traditional pct or taper? Ive read from the beginning of your thread, however I konw over time peoples opinions do change.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Ahh… thanks for the info. Only reason I asked is that I found it rather amusing that you, swartz and I are all relatively close to the same weight and height.
How many weeks did you plan to run your cycle for? Traditional pct or taper? Ive read from the beginning of your thread, however I konw over time peoples opinions do change.[/quote]
I found that my height is a mixed blessing. On one hand if I weighed 240 and was only 5’10 I would look a lot bigger and have a much stronger squat. But on the other hand at this height I should be able to carry more weight and make it look better than someone 5’10. I dunno, the grass is always greener I guess.
I originally planned on running 12 weeks of test/tren followed by the taper. I will for sure still be using an extensive taper but my progress will determine if I stop at 10 weeks or continue for the full twelve.
Today is going to be my first insulin injections. I am off to take a shower, shoot up some test/tren. Take 250mcg of HCG and then shoot 5iu of humalog. I will then wait for about 2-3 hours and get my meals in then head to the gym. After killing my shoulders ( I may try the 100lbs dbs today) I will come home and shoot another 5iu of humalog and repeat the eating process.
I am now in new territory for myself, Hopefully I can finally get some weight on my lanky frame, lol.
I think he meant wait 2-3 hours before he went to the gym.
[quote]Whoa! wrote:
I think he meant wait 2-3 hours before he went to the gym.[/quote]
Exactly, I am eating as I type. I should have been more clear on my previous post. I hope that the humalog will be almost out of my system before I hit my first work set. I think 3 hours should do it. But just in case I have a bag of candy in my gym bag. Normally I will have 8 hours in between my AM injection and my PM workout but today is going to be a little different.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Whoa! wrote:
I think he meant wait 2-3 hours before he went to the gym.
Exactly, I am eating as I type. I should have been more clear on my previous post. I hope that the humalog will be almost out of my system before I hit my first work set. I think 3 hours should do it. But just in case I have a bag of candy in my gym bag. Normally I will have 8 hours in between my AM injection and my PM workout but today is going to be a little different.[/quote]
Lol. As if the regular gym-goers aren’t jealous enough of the jacked dude already, now they’re gonna see him eating candy while he trains.
I’d like to see the looks you’ll get. 
So I survived yesterday just fine without any signs of going hypo. I used 5iu in the morning and then another 5iu PWO. I originally wasn’t planning on shooting slin in the AM and only using it PWO. However as Bushy mentioned it should really help to replenish the muscles following intense PM workouts.
I am now going to use the slin PWO on my training days (6 days/week) and this will be my larger dose. Today I will shoot 6iu and bump it up until I reach 10iu as long as everything goes fine. In addition I will shoot AM on 3 mornings a week following my more intense lifting days (back, legs and chest).
How does this dosing protocol look? I plan on running the slin for 4-5 weeks.
[quote]Whoa! wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Whoa! wrote:
I think he meant wait 2-3 hours before he went to the gym.
Exactly, I am eating as I type. I should have been more clear on my previous post. I hope that the humalog will be almost out of my system before I hit my first work set. I think 3 hours should do it. But just in case I have a bag of candy in my gym bag. Normally I will have 8 hours in between my AM injection and my PM workout but today is going to be a little different.
Lol. As if the regular gym-goers aren’t jealous enough of the jacked dude already, now they’re gonna see him eating candy while he trains.
I’d like to see the looks you’ll get. :)[/quote]
I felt fine throughout the workout so I didn’t have to dive into my bag of candy in front of the general gym population. Nobody in my gym would know what the hell in going on. Out of the entire 5,000 members I know of only 1 or 2 who have ever used insulin in this way.
I just injected 8iu of humalog PWO and then dropped my vial on the tile floor and watched it shatter. I have no more insulin and hadn’t even gotten to my desired dosage yet. I am an idiot!
Needless to say this cycle will not be a good judge of the anabolic powers of insulin. Really I don’t intend on running insulin in my summer cycle so I guess it will have to wait until next winter.
I will reconstitute my IGF this weekend and then proceed to run it for the following three weeks.
Following my IGF use I will then go ahead with my test taper and add in GHRP-6 for 3 months as well.
It would an understatement to say that this cycle did not go exactly as planned but I have acheived new weight and strength so I can’t be too pissed. But I still am ;(
[quote]2thepain wrote:
I just injected 8iu of humalog PWO and then dropped my vial on the tile floor and watched it shatter. I have no more insulin and hadn’t even gotten to my desired dosage yet. I am an idiot!
Needless to say this cycle will not be a good judge of the anabolic powers of insulin. Really I don’t intend on running insulin in my summer cycle so I guess it will have to wait until next winter.
I will reconstitute my IGF this weekend and then proceed to run it for the following three weeks.
Following my IGF use I will then go ahead with my test taper and add in GHRP-6 for 3 months as well.
It would an understatement to say that this cycle did not go exactly as planned but I have acheived new weight and strength so I can’t be too pissed. But I still am ;([/quote]
Oh shit, that really sucks big man. Oh well, just chalk it up, and shit, you've done well, and you got more gas in the tank with the rest of your goodies buddy.
Keep pluggin away 2the,
ToneBone
Sorry to hear about that smashed bottle. But why not just pick up another?
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Sorry to hear about that smashed bottle. But why not just pick up another?[/quote]
Good point. It took about 3-4 weeks to get my first vial after I ordered it. But I guess I should just run my IGF in the meantime and then still have about 3 weeks of my cycle left in which to use the insulin. Even if I run my insulin use into the first couple weeks of my test taper I will still have high enough androgen levels to make some serious gains.
I was just noticing this morning that my muscles felt rather full and as I had mentioned previously I was really looking forward to seeing what full on insulin use could do for myself.
My mind has been made, I will order another vial ASAP and just mix up my cycle a little more.
This mornings weight is 241 even. Although gains are creaping along I would like to make note of several things. From start of the cycle until today my bodyfat has not changed at all, though I have gained 13lbs. My waist measurement is exactly the same. I bloated slightly in those first 2 weeks but since the flu hit I really am not holding much water.
The second good thing is that my strength continues to improve. I am now able to complete 3 reps at 405 without problem. So if I were to guess I am getting close to passing my previous PR of 455. My deadlift is harder to judge due to intense back pumps that come about during my squat sessions.
I need to take a day and open with a heavy deadlift and see what it feels like. Sunday I will begin to shoot my IGF and wait for my replacement humalog to show up. I will begin shooting the humalog again as soon as it arrives.
Thats a pretty hardcore cycle you got going, 27 weeks is a long time. Have you experienced any hair loss or gyno in this cylce, or in previous ones?
[quote]yoyodogg2000 wrote:
Thats a pretty hardcore cycle you got going, 27 weeks is a long time. Have you experienced any hair loss or gyno in this cylce, or in previous ones?[/quote]
Make note that over half of that time I will be using 100mg or less a week as part of a taper. My actual time on will only be 12 weeks.
While on this cycle I have not noticed any hair loss. Hair loss doesn’t run in my family so I am not too concerned with this.
I have had a slight case of gyno in the past which makes me nervous for all future cycles. However I have been fine running .75mg adex ed. Just in case I have a lot of letro/nolv and even caber on hand if gyno should present itself. I honestly think that my past gyno was prolactin related as my last cycle was a gram a week of test and EQ with no AI and no gyno. I am cautious about nor-19 and anadrol.