Tonight is legs. I will post results tomorrow. I am getting to the point where I think I can start hitting some new PRs. In the next month I will go for a new PR in squat > 455 and dead > 561. Until then I am trying to feel out what I think I can get.
This mornings weight is 242. I am not crazy about gaining only a pound a week but I will take whatever I can get. I have 2 more weeks of IGF use and I will start up my insulin again once my new vial arrives (it shipped tues).
As far as strength goes, it is up. But I’m not sure how much. I did 435 for an easy single. I will bump up my singles about 10 lbs a week until I miss a lift. After the singles I have stuck to my 5x5. Yesterday was 375 and next week will be 385. I would love to be able to do a complete 5x5 at 405. Another big and possibly more important goal would be to still be able to rep out 405 for 5 months after my cycle has ended. Time will tell.
As far as the deadlift goes. I really don’t know. i think that in future cycles i will switch my deadlift day to my back day. I seem to have little energy left after squatting to put forth a strong showing in the deadlift. In a couple weeks I am going to borrow a deadlift bar and open with a heavy pull. Maybe I will feel good enough to get a new PR.
I got my new unbroken vial of humalog today. I will start up again PWO tomorrow night. Instead of going through the staggering doses going up I am just going to start where I left off at 9iu. I will use 10iu for about 3-4 weeks depending on results.
Side note, tomorrow I will attempt 460 on squat, first PR for this cycle. Deadlift will be the next to go:)
All will come to those you wait. I hope this old saying turns out to be true. I held off my 460 squat last night because of some rather intense tightness in the short head of my left hamstring. I felt fantastic going through my dynamic warm-ups and there was no doubt in my mind that I was going to smash 460. But as I stared to warm up with weight I felt a familar pull. I then remembered pulling this muscle Wed while trying to adduct my leg while moving a wet floor mat. I felt a little strain and thought “shit, don’t do that again”. I had forgotten all about it until last night. I just did 5x5 with 315 and did some light single joint movements. I will stretch alot this week and be very careful in the snow and ice. Next week will be better, the strength is there I just need to ability to use all of it.
Another week of IGF and insulin won’t hurt either;)
All will come to those you wait. I hope this old saying turns out to be true. I held off my 460 squat last night because of some rather intense tightness in the short head of my left hamstring. I felt fantastic going through my dynamic warm-ups and there was no doubt in my mind that I was going to smash 460. But as I stared to warm up with weight I felt a familar pull. I then remembered pulling this muscle Wed while trying to adduct my leg while moving a wet floor mat. I felt a little strain and thought “shit, don’t do taht again”. I had forgotten all about it until last night. I just did 5x5 with 315 and did some light single joint movements. I will stretch alot this week and be very careful in the snow and ice. Next week will be better, the strength is there I just need to ability to use all of it.
Another week of IGF and insulin won’t hurt either;)
Great thread 2the,
GL on the PR’s
I’ve been following your thread for awhile Pain and wanted to let you know you’ve done a real nice job documenting everything. With some nice adds from other vets it has come together well and will be helpful to a lot of guys. Personally as much as I want to have just one smooth post cycle transition, I’m still nervous about IGF1 and don’t know when/if I’ll attempt it. Regardless, thanks for the effort here.
Sorry I forgot to post my weight last week. 243.2. So I’ll admit the weight is not coming on as I had intended but this is new ground for me and I will take whatever I can get. This week I will take a shot at my squat PR.
I should make some notes here about my insulin use. I have been shooting 10iu PWO for about a week and love it. My muscles feel and look full all the time.
I also have backed off the tren, down to 400mg/week for the last couple weeks of the cycle. And right away my appetite comes back 100%. Just last night I was so hungry I ate three cheesburgers and 4 tacos for dinner and then ate again 2 hours later. If only I had this hunger for the whole cycle. The really amazing thing was the this morning when I woke up I had a six pack. WTF, I gorged myself to an uncomfortable point last night and looked awesome the day after.
In future cutting cycles tren will be a must. Though probably only at 400mg/week.
I like insulin a whole lot, I feel my recovery time is cut in half. And to this point I have had a reduction in BF:) If it weren’t for that whole diabetes thing I would never come off;)
Finally, a new PR. Raw squat = 460. Nothing earth shattering but new none the less. I would be lying if I said it was easy but I think I had at least another 10lbs in the tank. I will go for 470 next week. The following week is deadlift. I had better pull something bigger than 561.
I didn’t get a weight this morning so I will post it tomorrow.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Finally, a new PR. Raw squat = 460. Nothing earth shattering but new none the less. I would be lying if I said it was easy but I think I had at least another 10lbs in the tank. I will go for 470 next week. The following week is deadlift. I had better pull something bigger than 561.
I didn’t get a weight this morning so I will post it tomorrow.[/quote]
Damn bro,
those lifts are pretty massive. Have you added the ghrp to the mix yet? or are u not combining it with the slin?
[quote]sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Finally, a new PR. Raw squat = 460. Nothing earth shattering but new none the less. I would be lying if I said it was easy but I think I had at least another 10lbs in the tank. I will go for 470 next week. The following week is deadlift. I had better pull something bigger than 561.
I didn’t get a weight this morning so I will post it tomorrow.
Damn bro,
those lifts are pretty massive. Have you added the ghrp to the mix yet? or are u not combining it with the slin?
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I’m waiting until I start my test taper to start the GHRP-6. I have two more weeks of test and slin before I start the taper. Reading your log of GHRP-6 use has giving me hope for this round of PCT.
Todays weight is 244 even. I honestly can say that I look 10x better at the end of this bulking cycle as opposed to last years. I am feeling very strong and I still have descent abdominal definition. I am much leaner at 244 now than last year at 238. Perhaps the slin is involved with this, although I was under an impression that it was easier to gain fat while using insulin injections.
I have two weeks left at 1 gram a week of test. After that I will begin an extensive test taper along with GHRP-6. I have been doing 2x week hcg injections at 250mcg per injection and honestly have not experienced that much testicular atrophy. I will drop the tren now and let everything clear my system before I start the taper.
As a side note, tren is probably the reason why I look so much better at the end of the cycle. It will be part of my next cutting cycle for sure. However I beleive that tren is the main reason that I felt like shit for the first 5 weeks of the cycle until I lowered my dose a little. I think that 500mg/week tren was much easier on my than 600mg/week.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Todays weight is 244 even. I honestly can say that I look 10x better at the end of this bulking cycle as opposed to last years. I am feeling very strong and I still have descent abdominal definition. I am much leaner at 244 now than last year at 238. Perhaps the slin is involved with this, although I was under an impression that it was easier to gain fat while using insulin injections.
I have two weeks left at 1 gram a week of test. After that I will begin an extensive test taper along with GHRP-6. I have been doing 2x week hcg injections at 250mcg per injection and honestly have not experienced that much testicular atrophy. I will drop the tren now and let everything clear my system before I start the taper.
As a side note, tren is probably the reason why I look so much better at the end of the cycle. It will be part of my next cutting cycle for sure. However I beleive that tren is the main reason that I felt like shit for the first 5 weeks of the cycle until I lowered my dose a little. I think that 500mg/week tren was much easier on my than 600mg/week. [/quote]
Has the tren by any chance made it hard for you to consume the amount of calories that you have desired for this cycle? the reason i ask is b/c i ran tren e during a bulker and had to stop half way thru with it b/c i could hardly get down a protein shake, tren really fucks with my appetite. i used tren A during a cutter last spring and it was golden. 
[quote]sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Todays weight is 244 even. I honestly can say that I look 10x better at the end of this bulking cycle as opposed to last years. I am feeling very strong and I still have descent abdominal definition. I am much leaner at 244 now than last year at 238. Perhaps the slin is involved with this, although I was under an impression that it was easier to gain fat while using insulin injections.
I have two weeks left at 1 gram a week of test. After that I will begin an extensive test taper along with GHRP-6. I have been doing 2x week hcg injections at 250mcg per injection and honestly have not experienced that much testicular atrophy. I will drop the tren now and let everything clear my system before I start the taper.
As a side note, tren is probably the reason why I look so much better at the end of the cycle. It will be part of my next cutting cycle for sure. However I beleive that tren is the main reason that I felt like shit for the first 5 weeks of the cycle until I lowered my dose a little. I think that 500mg/week tren was much easier on my than 600mg/week.
Has the tren by any chance made it hard for you to consume the amount of calories that you have desired for this cycle? the reason i ask is b/c i ran tren e during a bulker and had to stop half way thru with it b/c i could hardly get down a protein shake, tren really fucks with my appetite. i used tren A during a cutter last spring and it was golden.
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Tren totally fucked with my appetite. I started off the first week eating 6300/day but by the second week I felt like I was going to puke. After I lowered the dose to 500mg/week I was able to eat 5500/day but still felt like shit doing so. Now that I have stopped I can already feel an increase in hunger. I like the strength effects of tren and love how it made my new weight look.
But I could have gained a lot more mass if I was able to eat about 6500 for the duration of the cycle. I think that tren is a must in a cutting cycle but unless I can find a way to keep my appetite up while on it I may opt for deca as my Nor-19 of choice for bulking. But then again tren makes me really fucking strong so I don’t know.
Alright, I am approaching the end of my cycle. On Sunday I will start the test taper and begin shooting GHRP-6 for the duration of PCT.
To sum up my cycle, I am currently 245.6 lbs (up 17.6lbs). Not huge weight gains but I have never been this big before so I’ll take it. My bodyfat has changed maybe 1% during the entire cycle. I still have 4 abdominals showing and I look 10x better than I did last year at 238.
Measurements: Pre/Post
Shoulders: 55.25/56.25
Chest: 50.125/51.00
Arms: 17.00/18.00
Waist: 34.25/34.50
Legs: 26.00/27.25
Strength gains were descent but I did not hit any of my proposed numbers. I only bumped my squat up to 460:( but last night I deadlifted 573 with about 15 lbs still in the tank:). My bench got fucked up at the beginning and I have been working on grip and form ever since.
Things I liked about my cycle: I like that I noticed a HUGE gain in strength at about week 3. This is right after I had the flu and was prepared to lift like shit, but I actually felt amazingly strong. Test and tren are very strong when combined. Dbol is also a favorite of mine, but I feel anadrol is still a much stronger drug. I also liked the way being on insulin made me feel as far as recovery and fullness. I felt swollen and full all day.
What I did not like. This time my IGF use was far less effective as the first time I used it. I would say about half as effective. I hated the fact that tren made me lose my appetite. I honestly had to drink about half of my calories, not good at all. I also felt like shit for about the first 5 weeks. I think 2 grams a week is a little much for me.
What I will do different next bulking cycle. I will use test/deca/anadrol (750/400/350) as my stack to avoid any hunger issues. Hopefully the lower dosages will help to keep me from feeling like shit. I will run insulin in the middle of my cycle instead of the end and will use IGF at the end of the cycle.
Overall, I came out ahead and in the best shape of my life. Of course, I always want more and will not give up, ever.
Looks like you had a good run there, I’ll be interested to see how your taper with GHRP-6 goes.
I wanted to comment on what you mentioned earlier in the thread about being on the taller side and how it effects how much weight you have to carry to look big, and how much muscle you can carry without looking too “blocky”.
I’m also 6’2" and am getting close to the 240 mark. It used to frustrate me that even as I was gaining an appreciable amount of muscle, I still had that rather lanky look you talked about. When I was 205 I thought maybe at 215 it’ll be different. Then at 215 I thought I’d have to hit 225.
Now that I’m around 235, I actually have a whole new appreciation for my height. I have enough muscle on me to look very full, but I also still look very athletic, and more importantly, still have the athleticism I had at lighter weights. I think, like you mentioned, being a bit taller can provide one with an aesthetic advantage once enough muscle is on the frame. It’s definately easier to avoid looking like a meathead with a little length on the physique.
Of course there is part of me that wants to keep getting bigger, as I’m sure you do as well, but I also really enjoy being able to run, jump and attract the opposite sex (particularly the smokin’ hot variety).
Just a few thoughts.
I should add just for the record that my test taper will be 12 weeks total. I may or may not follow it with a couple weeks of nolv depending on how I feel I recovered. The GHRP-6 will be shot ed with 350mcg PWO and 100mcg pre-bed.
Congrats man, interesting thread.
I am currently shooting my GHRP-6 2x a day. 350mcg PWO and 100mcg before bed. I am noticing a slight appetite increase after the PWO shot but then I am usually hungry at this time anyway.
I ran out of NaCl which I was adding to the GHRP-6 prior to injection. I reconstituted the GHRP-6 with Bac water that came with the vials. I decided to just go ahead and shoot the GHRP-6 without mixing in anything else. Besides for it burning a little I didn’t notice any difference. Because I am shooting such a small amount of liquid am I going to be safe from necrosis (I think this is the proper term)? Or should I get more NaCl to continue?