9 Months Pregnant and 24 Kipping Pull Ups

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I think a pregnant woman doing pullups would be ok. I think a pregnant woman doing doing fairly psychotic crazy ass “kipping” pull up is disturbing.
And by the way, when did cheating and using shitty form get a special name like “kipping” which gives it validity? That may be more fucked than the woman’s baby will be.[/quote]

that a blue Great Dane in your avatar? looks like our dane[/quote]
Yeah, that’s my puppy, Zeus. 18 months, 168#'s of sweetness. His older half bro is named Achilles, 2.5 yrs, 150# os seriousness.
Let’s turn this shitty thread into one about Danes!
Post a pic!

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wow, he’s look way tall… she passed away back in Jan

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me and our other dane… he’s 150# solid muscle :wink:

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nobody is saying that she should not exercise…let’s go ASK A FUCKING DOCTOR SHALL WE.

"This was written by a OBGYN in response to a post on the Crossfit forums regarding WOD-ing during pregancy. I know it will convince no one, but it seems well thought out.

First of all, if you get overheated, baby can’t cool down. This is also why pregnant women are told to stay out of hot tubs. So, intensity needs to be dialed back a lot.

You need to keep your heart rate under 140 bpm. Baby can usually get enough oxygen, but with a supremely high heart rate, it makes it difficult.

When pregnant, your body produces a hormone called relaxin that allows your ligaments and tendons to stretch to allow for the baby to get through the birth canal. Extreme stretching or pulling on tendons and ligaments (pullups, etc.) can cause irreversible damage because they are much more susceptible to overstretching. Can cause one to develop hip dysplasia, shoulder and other joint issues, and diastasis recti. Diastasis occurs naturally during pregnancy, it is the stretching of the connective tissue that holds the rectus abdominus together. If it gets overstretched (or you have weak connective tissue), it won’t come back together and you end up with a permanent pot belly.

Lastly, if you suffer falls in the last half of pregnancy, there is a risk of placental abruption. This means that the placenta detaches from the uterine wall and the baby bleeds to death. This can happen spontaneously as well, but my husband who is an ER physician has seen this happen from falls and domestic violence more than enough times for me to believe it is a serious risk.

Jumping and hanging from things while pregnant is just not a good idea.

I won’t claim to know what goes on hormonally while exercising when pregnant but on the CF pregnant forums, there are a lot of miscarriages reported. I have friends who are figure and fitness competitors and a lot of them had miscarriages and had trouble conceiving when training at that intensity level.

I would tell her that its okay to do some basic circuits with light implements (not for time), but there is no reason to be lifting super heavy and especially not doing any jumping/hanging/kipping, etc. The risk to benefit ratio is too high. Just getting out and walking/jogging with muscle endurance circuits is good."
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Pfft… a womans intuition trumps an OBGYN’s expert knowledge any day of the week!

:wink:

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
wow, he’s look way tall… she passed away back in Jan[/quote]
A brindle beauty. How old was she?
Zeus is 38.5" at shoulder.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
me and our other dane… he’s 150# solid muscle ;)[/quote]
Wow! Our Danes do look alike. Where did you get him? We got both our guys from Steven’s Danes in Alabama.

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I got mine from Dean’s Danes in Denmark. Ok not really, actually don’t have a great dane, come to think of it or a dog. But I did have a gerbil as a kid. His name was Eric, died tragically in a boating accident, but i digress…

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
me and our other dane… he’s 150# solid muscle ;)[/quote]
Wow! Our Danes do look alike. Where did you get him? We got both our guys from Steven’s Danes in Alabama.
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wow, that pic sucked when uploaded, lol.

the brindle was 8.5 passed from Lymphoma after 4 month battle

got her from Pittsburgh and him from WV

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

I think the problem of most people (including myself) is that she is doing kipping pullups, and should her grip slip and she fall off God forbid face first and land her on belly…well damn, that was unfortunate.

My mom exercised till a couple weeks before I was born.[/quote]

Zomg, a voice of reason!

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[quote]andy1977 wrote:
I concur, Ouroboro. Pregnant women fall down flights of stairs and the baby is fine. Kipping pullups won’t hurt the kid a bit. Amniotic fluid is a wonderful thing!

In the human sexuality course I took in college, I recall someone asking the professor about pregnant women doing sports. Her answer was, basically, pregnant women can participate in most sports that they have a decent amount of experience in before they got pregnant, but taking up a new sport while pregnant is not a good idea.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]

Ridiculous. My wife slipped and fell on a wet floor at 8 months pregnant. Put her into early labor, baby born next day. We were a little concerned after the fall so we called herOBGYN who said that falls can cause the placenta to tear which can be fatal for mother and baby alike.
Life is flimsy. What logic would lead a mother to take this sort if risk with her child’s life?
Lat pulldowns would provide the same effect without the associated risk.
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[quote]kappa927 wrote:

[quote]andy1977 wrote:
I concur, Ouroboro. Pregnant women fall down flights of stairs and the baby is fine. Kipping pullups won’t hurt the kid a bit. Amniotic fluid is a wonderful thing!

In the human sexuality course I took in college, I recall someone asking the professor about pregnant women doing sports. Her answer was, basically, pregnant women can participate in most sports that they have a decent amount of experience in before they got pregnant, but taking up a new sport while pregnant is not a good idea.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]

Ridiculous. My wife slipped and fell on a wet floor at 8 months pregnant. Put her into early labor, baby born next day. We were a little concerned after the fall so we called herOBGYN who said that falls can cause the placenta to tear which can be fatal for mother and baby alike.
Life is flimsy. What logic would lead a mother to take this sort if risk with her child’s life?
Lat pulldowns would provide the same effect without the associated risk.
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it’s not “cool” to film yourself doing pulldowns and posting them on the webz. No one claps for that shit

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[quote]kappa927 wrote:

[quote]andy1977 wrote:
I concur, Ouroboro. Pregnant women fall down flights of stairs and the baby is fine. Kipping pullups won’t hurt the kid a bit. Amniotic fluid is a wonderful thing!

In the human sexuality course I took in college, I recall someone asking the professor about pregnant women doing sports. Her answer was, basically, pregnant women can participate in most sports that they have a decent amount of experience in before they got pregnant, but taking up a new sport while pregnant is not a good idea.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]

Ridiculous. My wife slipped and fell on a wet floor at 8 months pregnant. Put her into early labor, baby born next day. We were a little concerned after the fall so we called herOBGYN who said that falls can cause the placenta to tear which can be fatal for mother and baby alike.
Life is flimsy. What logic would lead a mother to take this sort if risk with her child’s life?
Lat pulldowns would provide the same effect without the associated risk.
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Crossfit is not about progress or results, it’s about attention whoring in the most obnoxious manner possible.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
there’s really not much of a choice in driving, so analogy fail.

there’s choice is selecting exercises that have a lower risk of injury ;)[/quote]
All she has to do is install a chin-up bar in her house and driving to the gym is avoided.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
there’s really not much of a choice in driving, so analogy fail.

there’s choice is selecting exercises that have a lower risk of injury ;)[/quote]
All she has to do is install a chin-up bar in her house and driving to the gym is avoided.[/quote]

But what if she has to to drive to the store to buy the chin up bar? Risky. Having to drive home from work to use the chin up bar is even riskier.

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I will never comprehend why people get so worked up over crossfit (for it or against it). But whenever it comes up it always gets everybody’s panties bunched up. I’m far from being a cross fit advocate mainly because I think there are better means of training than kipping pull ups and bastardized olympic lifts. But I would much rather see crossfit take off and get people excited about getting off their asses and exercising than having these same people sit on their couch at home eating junk food becoming obese like the rest of the country.

As for the person saying kipping pull-ups are unhealthy for your shoulders, I just don’t see it. I certainly think there are better ways to train your lats, upper back, and rear delts than doing a bunch of swingy things. But to say kipping pulls ups are bad for the health of your shoulders even in healthy individuals just doesn’t make sense. A kip, not kipping pull-ups, is from gymnastics and it’s a move that gets the athlete from hanging under the bar to having their entire upper body above the bar using momentum and their lats and shoulders. And I’m assuming crossfitters took this move and turned it into what they’re calling kipping pull ups. But again, I fail to see how that is harming the shoulders. Gymnasts seem pretty healthy to me.

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[quote]ragoo wrote:
I will never comprehend why people get so worked up over crossfit (for it or against it). But whenever it comes up it always gets everybody’s panties bunched up. I’m far from being a cross fit advocate mainly because I think there are better means of training than kipping pull ups and bastardized olympic lifts. But I would much rather see crossfit take off and get people excited about getting off their asses and exercising than having these same people sit on their couch at home eating junk food becoming obese like the rest of the country.

As for the person saying kipping pull-ups are unhealthy for your shoulders, I just don’t see it. I certainly think there are better ways to train your lats, upper back, and rear delts than doing a bunch of swingy things. But to say kipping pulls ups are bad for the health of your shoulders even in healthy individuals just doesn’t make sense. A kip, not kipping pull-ups, is from gymnastics and it’s a move that gets the athlete from hanging under the bar to having their entire upper body above the bar using momentum and their lats and shoulders. And I’m assuming crossfitters took this move and turned it into what they’re calling kipping pull ups. But again, I fail to see how that is harming the shoulders. Gymnasts seem pretty healthy to me.

Ever seen a pregnant gymnast doing a bar routine?

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Not once in my post did I refer to the pregnant crossfitter, mostly because I don’t want to get involved in the morality or political correctness of whether or not a pregnant woman should be doing kipping pull ups. I’m going to let all of you piss and moan about it.

My post was in reference to tom63 who said things like:

“Again . It’s a stupid exercise for a healthy person . It’s beyond ridiculous for a nine months pregnant lady.”
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“It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region”

I was wondering if there was some basis to these statements or if they were just part of the flaming of crossfit. Because I don’t see how a healthy person swinging on a bar can be inherently bad or unhealthy for your shoulder region. And my example were gymnasts, who do real kips.

As for your question if I had ever seen a pregnant gymnast doing a bar routine, my answer is no, but I might pay good money to watch.

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[quote]ragoo wrote:
Not once in my post did I refer to the pregnant crossfitter, mostly because I don’t want to get involved in the morality or political correctness of whether or not a pregnant woman should be doing kipping pull ups. I’m going to let all of you piss and moan about it.

My post was in reference to tom63 who said things like:

“Again . It’s a stupid exercise for a healthy person . It’s beyond ridiculous for a nine months pregnant lady.”
&
“It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region”

I was wondering if there was some basis to these statements or if they were just part of the flaming of crossfit. Because I don’t see how a healthy person swinging on a bar can be inherently bad or unhealthy for your shoulder region. And my example were gymnasts, who do real kips.

As for your question if I had ever seen a pregnant gymnast doing a bar routine, my answer is no, but I might pay good money to watch.[/quote]

You could’ve just said no.

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You seem to completely miss the context of my posts. Try to go back and read. I’m not talking about PREGNANT kipping pull-ups, I’m talking about non-pregnant healthy individuals with healthy shoulders. K? Like I said in my posts, I’m going to let you guys squabble over the political correctness. I was more curious about the fact somebody said that kipping pull-ups are horrible for your shoulder region in healthy individuals.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
there’s really not much of a choice in driving, so analogy fail.

there’s choice is selecting exercises that have a lower risk of injury ;)[/quote]
All she has to do is install a chin-up bar in her house and driving to the gym is avoided.[/quote]

But what if she has to to drive to the store to buy the chin up bar? Risky. Having to drive home from work to use the chin up bar is even riskier. [/quote]
That’s what husbands are for. Single mothers can order one via the internet. :slight_smile: