9 Months Pregnant and 24 Kipping Pull Ups

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:
I’d venture to say that she was in much greater danger driving on her way to do that than she was doing the pull ups. But nobody would be critical of her if she had gotten into an automobile accident. But because she’s actually doing something that’s active that has a hint of danger associated with it everyone is screaming about “the baby”. My wife was pretty active when she was pregnant with our son up until the day he was born and there were no side effects.

I think the real issue here is that all of you hate crossfit. I get that. It’s annoying hearing about paleo, seeing people doing lifts with really shitty form, and the whole “everything has to be a skull including KB”. But we should be pretty encouraged seeing a woman who wants to be active and who doesn’t just want to sit on the couch. Do you think that she’s going to be a good role model for that kid? I’d say so since physical activity is obviously a priority for her. For a site that is supposed to be about all things muscle we sure can be a bunch of pussies every now and then.

james[/quote]

EXCELLENT POST, and of course end of thread.

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There’s a world of difference between sitting on the couch for 9 months and doing wacky pull ups.

And I really don’t think anyone was screaming “THE BABY!”

And it’s dangerous for anyone to drive, we all know that…but we now that we need to go out and do things and we take that risk every day. It’s not the same as getting up on a bar to do pull ups.

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lol at this thread.

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there’s really not much of a choice in driving, so analogy fail.

there’s choice is selecting exercises that have a lower risk of injury :wink:

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All those that are saying no problem with this, would be singing a complete fucking different tune had she bit it and fell…

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Nobody is saying that she should not exercise…let’s go ASK A FUCKING DOCTOR SHALL WE.

"This was written by a OBGYN in response to a post on the Crossfit forums regarding WOD-ing during pregancy. I know it will convince no one, but it seems well thought out.

First of all, if you get overheated, baby can’t cool down. This is also why pregnant women are told to stay out of hot tubs. So, intensity needs to be dialed back a lot.

You need to keep your heart rate under 140 bpm. Baby can usually get enough oxygen, but with a supremely high heart rate, it makes it difficult.

When pregnant, your body produces a hormone called relaxin that allows your ligaments and tendons to stretch to allow for the baby to get through the birth canal. Extreme stretching or pulling on tendons and ligaments (pullups, etc.) can cause irreversible damage because they are much more susceptible to overstretching. Can cause one to develop hip dysplasia, shoulder and other joint issues, and diastasis recti. Diastasis occurs naturally during pregnancy, it is the stretching of the connective tissue that holds the rectus abdominus together. If it gets overstretched (or you have weak connective tissue), it won’t come back together and you end up with a permanent pot belly.

Lastly, if you suffer falls in the last half of pregnancy, there is a risk of placental abruption. This means that the placenta detaches from the uterine wall and the baby bleeds to death. This can happen spontaneously as well, but my husband who is an ER physician has seen this happen from falls and domestic violence more than enough times for me to believe it is a serious risk.

Jumping and hanging from things while pregnant is just not a good idea.

I won’t claim to know what goes on hormonally while exercising when pregnant but on the CF pregnant forums, there are a lot of miscarriages reported. I have friends who are figure and fitness competitors and a lot of them had miscarriages and had trouble conceiving when training at that intensity level.

I would tell her that its okay to do some basic circuits with light implements (not for time), but there is no reason to be lifting super heavy and especially not doing any jumping/hanging/kipping, etc. The risk to benefit ratio is too high. Just getting out and walking/jogging with muscle endurance circuits is good."

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Kipping pullups are stupid for anyone at anytime. Doing them at nine months pregnant shows she’s full retard. You never go full retard.[/quote]

Hate the word, but the line is a classic.

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:
I’d venture to say that she was in much greater danger driving on her way to do that than she was doing the pull ups. But nobody would be critical of her if she had gotten into an automobile accident. But because she’s actually doing something that’s active that has a hint of danger associated with it everyone is screaming about “the baby”. My wife was pretty active when she was pregnant with our son up until the day he was born and there were no side effects.

I think the real issue here is that all of you hate crossfit. I get that. It’s annoying hearing about paleo, seeing people doing lifts with really shitty form, and the whole “everything has to be a skull including KB”. But we should be pretty encouraged seeing a woman who wants to be active and who doesn’t just want to sit on the couch. Do you think that she’s going to be a good role model for that kid? I’d say so since physical activity is obviously a priority for her. For a site that is supposed to be about all things muscle we sure can be a bunch of pussies every now and then.

james[/quote]

Like I said earlier, I’d say the same about any activity that involves a risk of falling. But since the vid I posted shows CF is promoting pregnancy as a progression, I wonder what merits there are to the exercise that couldn’t be had in more grounded alternatives?

Truth is, there are no benefits to pregnant pull ups other than for the novelty value. It makes for good publicity. It’s a convenient out to say critics are just taking a pop at CF and the counter-argument that critics just want women to stay at home is a massive strawman. There are plenty of other options to choose from.

I can’t see the women in the vids forfeiting their maternity leave to prove that a bun in the oven doesn’t impede athletic performance, so why even hold their pull up prowess as anything more than a publicity winner, if they would take time off from a job that would likely be far less strenuous than their fitness regimen?

Professional athletes don’t do that, but it’s fine for people pretending to be pro athletes to…

Maybe I’m just slow, but that makes no sense at all. But, if pointing out the obvious double standard makes me a pussy, then…meoow!!

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Did you guys even watch the video? She was kipping but it certainly wasn’t anything that was really violent and she was exerting herself but certainly wasn’t over exerting herself. If she were to slip and fall she would have landed on her feet just like she did when she ended her session. Everyone thinks that if you fall down when doing kipping pull ups that you magically land on your tummy but that’s not typically the case.

For the record I’ve seen a LOT of guys kip in the Marines and I’ve never once seen anyone fall off of the bar. I’m sure it happens but I bet not too often. And this lady looked like she was in complete control the whole time. Wew also don’t know what her normal training looks like and maybe this is a one off deal just to show off. There’s nothing at all wrong with that.

UL - Doctors are going to play it on the safe side and always err on not doing something. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s super harmful it just means that they just want to reduce the chance of injury. And you can be a lot more polite in your post. The all caps “let’s go ask a fucking doctor” most certainly wasn’t necessary.

james

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i think people are just mad that this pregnant woman can do more pullups than them (kipping or not)

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[quote]

UL - Doctors are going to play it on the safe side and always err on not doing something. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s super harmful it just means that they just want to reduce the chance of injury. And you can be a lot more polite in your post. The all caps “let’s go ask a fucking doctor” most certainly wasn’t necessary.

james[/quote]

  1. When dealing with the “oh relax…nothing is going to happen crowd”, sometimes you gotta get snippy…maybe it’s because my doctor is a hard ass and swears like a sailor. Sorry if I offended your sensibilities.

  2. Doctors are DAMN smart, especially OB’s and should be taken very seriously…I mean COME ON MAN, this topic is serious business…people need to be educated and if my all caps post made one more person read it and realize “hey maybe high risk/high heart rate inducing exercise at 9 months is NOT a good idea” I’ll take it.

  3. Even though it’s the internet, when I am not at work my language tend’s to get a little coarse…what can I say, I was raised in a tough home.

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:
Did you guys even watch the video? She was kipping but it certainly wasn’t anything that was really violent and she was exerting herself but certainly wasn’t over exerting herself. If she were to slip and fall she would have landed on her feet just like she did when she ended her session. Everyone thinks that if you fall down when doing kipping pull ups that you magically land on your tummy but that’s not typically the case. For the record I’ve seen a LOT of guys kip in the Marines and I’ve never once seen anyone fall off of the bar. I’m sure it happens but I bet not too often. And this lady looked like she was in complete control the whole time. Wew also don’t know what her normal training looks like and maybe this is a one off deal just to show off. There’s nothing at all wrong with that.

james[/quote]

I suggest you watch the pregnant pull up progression vid I posted if you think it was a one-off. The whole idea is to use the growing baby to add resistance over time. These are regular fixtures in their workouts.

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I’m a chiropractor who’s been through art at all levels . I treat injured shoulders, have worked at ironman races, the Arnold classic, and treated professional athletes . Pregnancy is a risk factor in soft tissue work due to ligamentous laxity. We must be careful when we manipulate or do soft tissue work because we can injure someone inducing a sprain strain type of injury .

Again . It’s a stupid exercise for a healthy person . It’s beyond ridiculous for a nine months pregnant lady.

I’ve learned to trust health care professionals trained to treat injuries as opposed to lifters with no treatment experience . Believe it or not , there are doctors who work on injured athletes.

Double again, it’s a plain stupid you’re going to destroy your shoulder exercise in the best case scenario . Common sense isn’t common.

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]

Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]

It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region. Second the effects of progesterone this late in her pregnancy is to loosen her hip joints to allow the baby to pass through easier. This will also affect her gh, ac, and sc joints. She’s much more vulnerable to injury. This makes the baby much more vulnerable if day she tears her labrum and falls.

Totally not common sense , but hardcore in I’m a moron way.
Deliver the baby then come back and work on your shoulder replacement .[/quote]

I’ll back someone elses personal experince over another persons opinion any day. Unless you have to be an OB/GYM doc, that is. [/quote]

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
I’m a chiropractor who’s been through art at all levels . I treat injured shoulders, have worked at ironman races, the Arnold classic, and treated professional athletes . Pregnancy is a risk factor in soft tissue work due to ligamentous laxity. We must be careful when we manipulate or do soft tissue work because we can injure someone inducing a sprain strain type of injury .

Again . It’s a stupid exercise for a healthy person . It’s beyond ridiculous for a nine months pregnant lady.

I’ve learned to trust health care professionals trained to treat injuries as opposed to lifters with no treatment experience . Believe it or not , there are doctors who work on injured athletes.

Double again, it’s a plain stupid you’re going to destroy your shoulder exercise in the best case scenario . Common sense isn’t common.

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]

Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]

It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region. Second the effects of progesterone this late in her pregnancy is to loosen her hip joints to allow the baby to pass through easier. This will also affect her gh, ac, and sc joints. She’s much more vulnerable to injury. This makes the baby much more vulnerable if day she tears her labrum and falls.

Totally not common sense , but hardcore in I’m a moron way.
Deliver the baby then come back and work on your shoulder replacement .[/quote]

I’ll back someone elses personal experince over another persons opinion any day. Unless you have to be an OB/GYM doc, that is. [/quote]
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But cavewomen swing from branches and powercleaned feral hogs at 9 months pregnant…your argument is invalidated… educated medical guy.

/crossfitter’d

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Kipping pullups are stupid for anyone at anytime. Doing them at nine months pregnant shows she’s full retard. You never go full retard.[/quote]

Hate the word, but the line is a classic.[/quote]

Don’t like it much either . I only use it on people like my son who are tested gifted when they do ridiculous things. Like when he needed a longer spoon to get applesauce from the jar . He didn’t think of tilting it btw .
Maybe dumbass is more pc.
The line is awesome though.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I mean COME ON MAN, this topic is serious business…
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Really?

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I think a pregnant woman doing pullups would be ok. I think a pregnant woman doing doing fairly psychotic crazy ass “kipping” pull up is disturbing.
And by the way, when did cheating and using shitty form get a special name like “kipping” which gives it validity? That may be more fucked than the woman’s baby will be.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I think a pregnant woman doing pullups would be ok. I think a pregnant woman doing doing fairly psychotic crazy ass “kipping” pull up is disturbing.
And by the way, when did cheating and using shitty form get a special name like “kipping” which gives it validity? That may be more fucked than the woman’s baby will be.[/quote]

that a blue Great Dane in your avatar? looks like our dane

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I mean COME ON MAN, this topic is serious business…
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Really?

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You don’t think that the many miscarriage post’s on the crossfit forums are not serious?

And the fact that Xfit is growing like wildfire since Reebok went all in with them.

And the fact that people on this thread think this sort of thing is ok?

This is not like overprotecting your kids…this is about a fetus not being able to get enough oxygen because the mom is HARDCOREZZ.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I think a pregnant woman doing pullups would be ok. I think a pregnant woman doing doing fairly psychotic crazy ass “kipping” pull up is disturbing.
And by the way, when did cheating and using shitty form get a special name like “kipping” which gives it validity? That may be more fucked than the woman’s baby will be.[/quote]

I think anyone doing kipping pull ups is disturbing.