[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
She’s having a boy.
She’s stated she’ll be naming him Kip. [/quote]
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
She’s having a boy.
She’s stated she’ll be naming him Kip. [/quote]
Sublime!
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]ranengin wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
I would count a heavily pregnant woman flailing around (watch the video) as an unnecessary risk. But perhaps that’s just me.
Where do you draw the line? Do you think its a good idea for a heavily pregnant woman to squat, bench, or deadlift just because she can?
What do you think of the “increased cortisol levels bad for fetus” argument?
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I think many people mistakenly think that pregnancy is a medical condition and illness that should be treated with velvet gloves. At what point do we wrap pregnant women up in cotton wool and insist that they don’t expose themselves to any uncontrolled environment because of any unanticipated danger.
Do you ever wonder how we managed to propagate given our less than ideal circumstances? Let’s all unclench our collective sphincters.
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I agree. For 99% of human history, a women’s activity level didn’t change because she was pregnant. That is still the case in much of the world today. If the cortisol released from being chased by a lion didn’t affect a fetus, I doubt the cortisol from some squats will.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I think many people mistakenly think that pregnancy is a medical condition and illness that should be treated with velvet gloves. At what point do we wrap pregnant women up in cotton wool and insist that they don’t expose themselves to any uncontrolled environment because of any unanticipated danger.
Do you ever wonder how we managed to propagate given our less than ideal circumstances? Let’s all unclench our collective sphincters.
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I for one do not think that pregnancy is a medical condition and encouraged my wife to exercise whenever possible but in this instance its about risk to reward ratio. Do max kipping pullups warrant the potential risk to her unborn child? Imo no!
I am assuming your reference to how we managed to propagate refers to how woman bore children in the past? Well they didnt have a choice in the less than ideal circumstances that they had to endure but this woman has the luxury of choice and chooses to do stupid shit like this plus everything that roybot said…
Btw it reminded me of this unnecessary shite - YouTube
Its a pity the other vid didnt show up? Lets try again WOD 16 Sept 2010 Amanda 37 weeks pregnant.m4v - YouTube
[quote]OBoile wrote:
I agree. For 99% of human history, a women’s activity level didn’t change because she was pregnant. That is still the case in much of the world today. If the cortisol released from being chased by a lion didn’t affect a fetus, I doubt the cortisol from some squats will.[/quote]
Oh for the love of God how the f do you know being chased by a lion didn’t affect a fetus LOL! Anyway and more importantly being chased down be a lion more than likely lead to death for both mommy and baby and anyone else who couldnt run 35mph!
Btw does anyone know the mortality rates of newborn children and expectant mothers prehistory? Or can we hazard a guess that it was kinda high!
I can feel a paleo flavoured discussion a brewing…(shudders!)
Any sound minded fitness professional would look at this and be in awe. Anytime you choose an exercise, it should be for a reason. And that reason should take into consideration the risk:reward ratio.
That’s one fucked ratio on that exercise for the person, period.
I’m not sure how this wandered into skateboarding. It’s a pull up. You may not like the pull up but really, that’s all it is.
Perhaps, in your wisdom you could outline what is acceptable and what isn’t. You (the royal you who seem so offended by the pull up) seem to have a very clear vision of what is acceptable and allowable for a pregnant woman to participate in. Maybe you could indulge the rest of us with a list. Don’t bother with the common sense argument because there really does seem to be a dearth of it locally. I have no doubt there must be a very black and white, articulate list that applies to all women every where regardless of their level of fitness, strength or athletic ability prior to pregnancy; because of course, that has no bearing on anyone pregnant.
You see one woman performing an exercise that offends you and you judge her rather harshly without knowing her athletic background, skill or ability. I have to go back to, it’s just a pull up. Really.
I concur, Ouroboro. Pregnant women fall down flights of stairs and the baby is fine. Kipping pullups won’t hurt the kid a bit. Amniotic fluid is a wonderful thing!
In the human sexuality course I took in college, I recall someone asking the professor about pregnant women doing sports. Her answer was, basically, pregnant women can participate in most sports that they have a decent amount of experience in before they got pregnant, but taking up a new sport while pregnant is not a good idea.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
[quote]SLAINGE wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
I agree. For 99% of human history, a women’s activity level didn’t change because she was pregnant. That is still the case in much of the world today. If the cortisol released from being chased by a lion didn’t affect a fetus, I doubt the cortisol from some squats will.[/quote]
Oh for the love of God how the f do you know being chased by a lion didn’t affect a fetus LOL! Anyway and more importantly being chased down be a lion more than likely lead to death for both mommy and baby and anyone else who couldnt run 35mph!
Btw does anyone know the mortality rates of newborn children and expectant mothers prehistory? Or can we hazard a guess that it was kinda high![/quote]
It was just an expression - besides, the woman wouldn’t die as long as she could outrun one of her friends.
The point is, pregnant women in the past (and in many places today) are far more active than a typical north american.
Is there any evidence that this is harmful to the fetus? If there is no evidence either way, then why should a woman change her activity levels?
I’d say she’s full retard* but not for the kipping pullup. How bright can you be and think THAT’S nine months pregnant? My wife was bigger than that at 7. Every woman I’ve ever seen who was 9 months along looked ready to burst. 9 months pregnant looks absolutely miserable.
*Sorry Derek, didn’t mean to disparage retards.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I’m not sure how this wandered into skateboarding. It’s a pull up. You may not like the pull up but really, that’s all it is.
Perhaps, in your wisdom you could outline what is acceptable and what isn’t. You (the royal you who seem so offended by the pull up) seem to have a very clear vision of what is acceptable and allowable for a pregnant woman to participate in. Maybe you could indulge the rest of us with a list. Don’t bother with the common sense argument because there really does seem to be a dearth of it locally. I have no doubt there must be a very black and white, articulate list that applies to all women every where regardless of their level of fitness, strength or athletic ability prior to pregnancy; because of course, that has no bearing on anyone pregnant.
You see one woman performing an exercise that offends you and you judge her rather harshly without knowing her athletic background, skill or ability. I have to go back to, it’s just a pull up. Really.[/quote]
Harsh judging? You called everyone who disagrees with your opinion a cocksucker.
Look lady, you can flail about doing kipping pullups, max effort squats, rock climbing or whatever you like while 8 and a half months pregnant. Its none of my business.
I looked at that video and it reminded me of watching kids in the gym bounce weights off their chest and other similar things that seem risky to me. I cringed a bit, shrugged my shoulders and thought… why would anyone do that.
No big deal. Have a nice evening.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Perhaps, in your wisdom you could outline what is acceptable and what isn’t. You (the royal you who seem so offended by the pull up) seem to have a very clear vision of what is acceptable and allowable for a pregnant woman to participate in. Maybe you could indulge the rest of us with a list. Don’t bother with the common sense argument because there really does seem to be a dearth of it locally. I have no doubt there must be a very black and white, articulate list that applies to all women every where regardless of their level of fitness, strength or athletic ability prior to pregnancy; because of course, that has no bearing on anyone pregnant.
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A list mmm… you forced my hand so here it goes
Doing the laundry
Doing the dishes
Cleaning the house
Making dinner
Minding the kids
Having kids
Taking care of her man
Speaking only when spoken to
Maintaining her figure lest her man wonder (cuz you know it’ll be her fault)
No kipping, handstand walkouts, tyre flipping, snorkel wearing HITT sessions in a wetsuit in a sauna in compression socks, sporting a beard with arm sleeve tattoo’s screaming AWWWSOME n YEH BABY to a backin track of some shit hardcore emo rock track while other delusional dopes watch on screaming the same shit back until its their turn to max out, cavemen style (cuz thats how we used to live man, you know, in cave, barefoot, not eating grains n shit…)
…only messin
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]
It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region. Second the effects of progesterone this late in her pregnancy is to loosen her hip joints to allow the baby to pass through easier. This will also affect her gh, ac, and sc joints. She’s much more vulnerable to injury. This makes the baby much more vulnerable if day she tears her labrum and falls.
Totally not common sense , but hardcore in I’m a moron way.
Deliver the baby then come back and work on your shoulder replacement .
Look…it’s 9 months…just quit doing stupid shit as by definition the baby is coming in fewer than 30 days, then go back to exercise.
What do you gain from doing this?
“Hyuk Hyuk…I did pull ups!”…SOME FUCKING PULL UPS!
What can you lose?
“Oops! Baby’s head is flat!” …THE BABY IS FUCKED OVER… maybe.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]
Priorities.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Meh, I don’t get the anger. If she can do them, good for her. I don’t see how it’s going to affect her baby. Are you all among the group who tell pregnant women not to reach over their head or they’ll strangle the baby with the cord? I’d be more worried about damage to my own joints than harm to the baby. When you’re pregnant, all your joints become relaxed and kind of loose. My hips felt like they’d shoot into different directions. Clearly that’s not the case for her so let her kip on.[/quote]
Don’t bring common sense and personal experience into this Julie. This is the interwebs, your actual knowledge of the subject has no relevance. [/quote]
It’s not common sense, it’s plain stupid . First these pullups are horrible for yours shoulder region. Second the effects of progesterone this late in her pregnancy is to loosen her hip joints to allow the baby to pass through easier. This will also affect her gh, ac, and sc joints. She’s much more vulnerable to injury. This makes the baby much more vulnerable if day she tears her labrum and falls.
Totally not common sense , but hardcore in I’m a moron way.
Deliver the baby then come back and work on your shoulder replacement .[/quote]
I’ll back someone elses personal experince over another persons opinion any day. Unless you have to be an OB/GYM doc, that is.
I’d venture to say that she was in much greater danger driving on her way to do that than she was doing the pull ups. But nobody would be critical of her if she had gotten into an automobile accident. But because she’s actually doing something that’s active that has a hint of danger associated with it everyone is screaming about “the baby”. My wife was pretty active when she was pregnant with our son up until the day he was born and there were no side effects.
I think the real issue here is that all of you hate crossfit. I get that. It’s annoying hearing about paleo, seeing people doing lifts with really shitty form, and the whole “everything has to be a skull including KB”. But we should be pretty encouraged seeing a woman who wants to be active and who doesn’t just want to sit on the couch. Do you think that she’s going to be a good role model for that kid? I’d say so since physical activity is obviously a priority for her. For a site that is supposed to be about all things muscle we sure can be a bunch of pussies every now and then.
james