Sorry @flipcollar @ActivitiesGuy
In my opinion the talk of a pill that would " instantly achieve your goals" is stupid and you would end up hating it.
You would be empty. The reason you lift and didnt just go to the gym once and hate it is because you found that it is something you are passionate it about. You are willing to spend time in the gym instead of going out to the club or watching netflix.
You sit down eating and prepping meals that a normal person wouldnt have to bother with, but you do it because you are driven to your goals.
If youāre someone like eddie hall or brian shaw then youāre constantly stuffing your face to get bigger and stronger. Iv seen videos of brian talking about stuffing his face till hes sick and doing it all over again hours later. That shit isnt pleasant for anyone whether your brian shaw or a skinny fucker who cant gain any weight and has to stuff there face.
If you took a pill that instantly achieved whatever then it would have all been for nothing and it would suck balls.
If you were instantly the best at something then you would have no pride in it. You didnt work for it at all so you would despise yourself for making that choice to take a pill.
People who lift weights can try hide it but you love the process, whether its being proud of working hard to add slabs of muscle or bust a pr, or win your first bodybuilding show.
The pill would be good in some ways, but there is major downsides.
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Yeah Duke gets it!
Rito, I probably should have done some more homework before I jumped to wildly inaccurate assumptions about you 
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Not quite, Iād be doing things I enjoy more. I donāt enjoy the process of working out. I enjoy the outcome. I enjoy the process of playing baseball, reading, writing and competing, but instead I spend an hour or more a day training. Why? Because I desire the outcome of training more than I would value the hour forgone enjoying the process of the alternative.
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Canāt relate. Love the grind.
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Exactly. Youd rather train then do things you enjoy.
Its true of course being able to not worry about training etc and chilling would be good. But then there would be no sense of achieving anything. You like the outcome? The outcome of the pill is instant achievement. No reason to feel proud of yourself or get enjoyment out of the outcome anymore.
" Cool im 230 pounds massive gainz and shredded as fuark and squat and deadlift 1000, i didnt do anything though i just took a pill "
Yeah itd be good to be big,shredded and strong but you wouldnt take much notice of it. Its like when you get comments from people āKeep up the hard workā and you feel proud of it. No ones going to care if you took a pill, theyd call you a cheater and no one would care about you being able to deadlift and squat 1000.
or if you get a promotion/ earn more of a salary at your job because you worked hard for it. Youād feel empty when you have instant achievement from nothing.
Only if everyone else had access to the pill and I am right back to where I started 
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Yea that would be pretty pointless. Kinda like superman on earth being like a god then general zod and his lackeys come.
Cool, it looks like weāve reached the part of the thread where a 15 year old is going to tell grown adult males how they should feel about their own lives.
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I did state " in my opinion". No need to go all ācool weāve reached the part of a thread where a 15 year old is going to tell grown adult men how they should feel about their own lives.ā
It was just a nice friendly discussion. No need to come in and ruin it.
Also No need for talking down to me? Il just leave this thread now ffsā¦
For what itās worth, I feel the same you do about a hypothetical pill. I enjoy process, not just results, and take pride in things I have worked for specifically because I had to work for them.
However, it seems more than a little silly for you to assume that you know anything about how @T3hPwnisher, @flipcollar, and others would feel in that scenario. They have specifically stated their own feelings; what makes you think you know better than they do?
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I was expressing my opinion. That doesnt make it correct nor incorrect it is an opinion. It also means i wasnt thinking i know better either.
That would be silly.
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When Iām passionate about something, I tend to distrust my decision making process.
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Iām 6ft 3 28yo natural weighing 80kg have pulled 245kg very close to 250kg conventional in lbs would be 176lb pulling 539lb/245kg but chasing the 600lb Mark
With @dchris on this one. I would definitely take the pill. Iām waking up at 4 AM to exercise right now and it sucks donkey balls.
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Hereās something you need to honestly ask yourself.
Are you doing all this in a state of mania, or is your mind focussing on the end goal and finding ways to internally motivate yourself with the sole intent of achieving it?
The former will usually fail.
Mania is full of justifications, inability to adapt, blind faith etc.
Passion is fickle.
I see this a lot in business. āEnjoying the grindā is the weightlifting equivalent of a big red flag for me if you ask me if the individual is going to be successful or even sticking to this 3 years from now.
Just my opinion.
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My shoulders hurt. Gimme the pill.
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Itās funny how pretty much everyone in here thatās over 30 would take the pillā¦
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Not sure where you picked that up. The marginal benefit of training for an hour a day is greater than the marginal cost of not doing ______.
The magic pill exists in the real world to some extent. I was born with a great memory and the ability to hear things and immediately understand. School was a breeze. So much so, I graduated HS at 14 and started college at 15. I donāt regret, feel less proud, etc. for not putting the same amount of time in as other students.
Hereās the thing Duke, at this point in my life, time litterally flies by. Today is Wednesday, but I feel like I just went to bed Sunday night. My life is incredibly busy and I routinely evaluate what areas of my life I can cut out. This is part of the reason I cancelled my gym membership and built my own garage gym.
Iām all about the minimal effective dose.
Edited so I could be included.
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As the kids say, word. Couldnāt agree more.
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