5 Reasons You Don't Look Like a BB'er

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I’m going to contradict myself one more time, but I’m not going to sit around having my hard work be considered “flab.”

There’s all the flab my arm is carrying, and surprisinly I can curl 185 x 1 with a slight cheat, but I guess fat moves the weight.

Whatever, and no I’m not bragging, cause that will be the next insult.

Again, everyone be good.[/quote]

This is exactly what i am talking about. You actually think you look good don’t you?

Jesus Christ.

And onto your ‘curl 1RM’ - yes actually, when you use body english fat DOES move weight. It is no secret that the bigger one is, ie. the more mass they have (dont read: muscle), the stronger they are likely to be when involving any bodily momentum… Try that curl with your back and ass up against a wall and load up 185lbs.

I was honestly not intending on putting your physique down, as i dont think like that as a rule, plus you ARE just a bit of a flabby 19 year old kid so you will grow and improve with age if you stick to training.
But now you have posted a video as if this proves anything beyond what i was saying and (as you did predict) also boasting about a 1rm curl weight when you are quite clearly a massive lad generally… well i honestly had little choice. It is my obligation as an honest poster to point outfor your own sake you are not quite as stacked as you think. Sorry.

Think about it like this, you know your BESTEST friend when they tell you that you have toilet paper hanging out the back of your pants. Consider me your BEST friend :wink:

IME i have noticed that there are often two groups for physique trainees (more of a scale but the point is still valid), one who think they are less developed than they are and those who think they are more developed than they are.
You not only fall into the latter group, you don’t even comprehend this fact and as such you make posts and post pictures and videos of a physique that almost every farmers son in the UK possess with no specific training.

Of course, yes (as i mentioned) this WILL allow you to have a great base to build on one day… but you are still very much a beginner and i just think that your boastful statements (while totally characteristic of a young man of 19) are premature.

On another note, i am honestly pleased for you that you feel you have made significant progress - good for you. But you cannot think that your particularly under developed arm at 19" is better than a well developed arm at 18"… you DO realise that don’t you? or are you still all ego?

Anyway, those were rhetorical more than anything, lets not waste our time or anyone else’s by dignifying this ridiculous hijack with more attention than it deserves.

Happy hunting.

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

I remember when you first came to this site and were using anabolics when your bench was around 225 and you weren’t making progress…I’m not here for personal insult though.
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However the difference is, I never attested to be strong. I never boasted about my ‘strength’ - nor any aspect of my physique actually as i find boasting an embarrassing display of immaturity and insecurity.

How much do you weigh Austin? Looking at the avatar i would think you easily weigh a good 250lbs, probably more.

You are pretty strong, but you aren’t ‘out of this world’ strong for your size. Come back down to earth son.

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Too many people forget that the purpose of lifting weights is to induce Hypertrophy. It doesn’t matter which way you do it. Just as long as the results come. I don’t care how much the QB for my fav team can bench or squat, or the nitty gritty of his training. He just has to win games!

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dont they all use that method, ehhhh… oh yeah hard fuckin work?

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[quote]brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section. [/quote]

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.

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[quote]beanboy502 wrote:

  1. You can’t describe the training style of Arnold versus Dorian, Ronnie versus Mentzer, or Nimrod King versus Branch Warren.

dont they all use that method, ehhhh… oh yeah hard fuckin work?[/quote]

Ah yes… that long forgotten training secret -lol.

S

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Why do people insist on posting stupid shit like this. Is it to make yourself look cool? To convince us that you dont do leg presses? Come on pal, we get it you can school me on the different body building techniques of legendary bb ers. Im sure your a real hardcore BBer because you started a topic such as this, wow you must be the shit.

I for one cannot tell anyone the different techniques of these BBers, I guess im not allowed in the club.

Awesome topic bro.

[quote]dratner wrote:

  1. You spend more time asking questions about what to do, rather than getting your ass out there and doing it.

  2. You spend more time reading and arguing with people on forums, rather than reading articles or books from some of the best coaches and authors in the business.

  3. You can’t describe the training style of Arnold versus Dorian, Ronnie versus Mentzer, or Nimrod King versus Branch Warren.

  4. You substitute pull downs for pull ups, leg extensions for squats, machine presses for heavy ass benching.

  5. You still think red meat and egg yolks are bad for you. HA!

For those who have a physique worthy of noting, please add…[/quote]

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[quote]BSC819 wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section.

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.
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so i guess someone like david henry, frank zane, kevin english, jim cordova, jeff rodriguez wouldn’t be welcome to give advice because they weigh less than 250.

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[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
BSC819 wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section.

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.

so i guess someone like david henry, frank zane, kevin english, jim cordova, jeff rodriguez wouldn’t be welcome to give advice because they weigh less than 250.[/quote]

Stop your bitching and go run your 10 second 100 meter race right into your boyfriends bedroom.

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[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
BSC819 wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section.

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.

so i guess someone like david henry, frank zane, kevin english, jim cordova, jeff rodriguez wouldn’t be welcome to give advice because they weigh less than 250.[/quote]

Who said anything about weighing 250? I haven’t weighed 250 in a long time so what are you talking about? This is a bodybuilding forum. If you have built yourself up, I am sure people are willing to listen to how you did it. However, are you saying the OP looks like Jeff Rodriguez???

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[quote] Brook wrote:

IME i have noticed that there are often two groups for physique trainees (more of a scale but the point is still valid), one who think they are less developed than they are and those who think they are more developed than they are.
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Just wanted to quote this for emphasis.

It is a very good point, Brook, and is worth noting that both of these misconceptions can hinder one’s ability to produce a good physique.

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[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Brook wrote:

IME i have noticed that there are often two groups for physique trainees (more of a scale but the point is still valid), one who think they are less developed than they are and those who think they are more developed than they are.

Just wanted to quote this for emphasis.

It is a very good point, Brook, and is worth noting that both of these misconceptions can hinder one’s ability to produce a good physique. [/quote]

…HOWEVER, the ones who think they are less than they really are will be more prone to work harder so you will see fewer casualties on that end.

I personally have never seen such an influx of people, though, who think they are fucking huge when they look like they don’t lift. Every “I can’t find pants to fit my HUGE 25” quads" thread reminds me of that.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
charlotte49er wrote:
BSC819 wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section.

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.

so i guess someone like david henry, frank zane, kevin english, jim cordova, jeff rodriguez wouldn’t be welcome to give advice because they weigh less than 250.

Stop your bitching and go run your 10 second 100 meter race right into your boyfriends bedroom.[/quote]

ROFLMAO.

I have purposely just sat back and watched this thread the past few days. I am wondering how a guy named “Charlotte” expects to be taken seriously trying to get training information from a thread in the Get a Life Section. Then has the nerve to say that 3 “huge” guys who were actually arguing over lifting (even though it may have been a pissing match) ruined a thread that everyone agreed is pointless. Even the OP hasn’t said anything since he started the damn thing. Yet, Charlotte keeps popping in to make comments on a thread he says is ruined.

And I still am trying to figure out what being a college level sprinter (code for I ran track in high school, but wasn’t good enough to make the college track team so I race frat boys for money) has to do with testosterone level. I am betting most female sprinters are faster than most of the guys on this board, so being fast obviously is no conclusive proof of how much testosterone in your system.

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
charlotte49er wrote:
BSC819 wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
he’s 196, been trainin seriously for 2 years, and now I guess he is THE fuckin man, he can tell those little newbs who are still 185 what their problems are, and why they suck, because he obviously doesnt.

I know people at my gym who dont even call themselves bodyuilders that would put you to shame OP, so until you get to be around 230-270 and are huge, and actually tried to help out someone who is struggling a little bit, then you suck and arent a bodybuiler.

Sorry BBers to hijack your thread, I usually stick to the PL thread. Seeing this though just pissed me off.

I have never even though of seeing a post like this in the powerlifting section.

My thoughts exactly ^^^. Now I am 190-195 myself and have been lifting for almost 5 years, when I started training at 27 years old, I weighed 140 soaking wet. Even though I have made a pretty good stride, I dont think that I have even earned the right to make a post “Why dont you look like a bb’er” when I dont personally look like a BB’er myself. If you make a post like that you better look like Ron Coleman or at least PX.

so i guess someone like david henry, frank zane, kevin english, jim cordova, jeff rodriguez wouldn’t be welcome to give advice because they weigh less than 250.

Stop your bitching and go run your 10 second 100 meter race right into your boyfriends bedroom.

ROFLMAO.

I have purposely just sat back and watched this thread the past few days. I am wondering how a guy named “Charlotte” expects to be taken seriously trying to get training information from a thread in the Get a Life Section. Then has the nerve to say that 3 “huge” guys who were actually arguing over lifting (even though it may have been a pissing match) ruined a thread that everyone agreed is pointless. Even the OP hasn’t said anything since he started the damn thing. Yet, Charlotte keeps popping in to make comments on a thread he says is ruined.

And I still am trying to figure out what being a college level sprinter (code for I ran track in high school, but wasn’t good enough to make the college track team so I race frat boys for money) has to do with testosterone level. I am betting most female sprinters are faster than most of the guys on this board, so being fast obviously is no conclusive proof of how much testosterone in your system.[/quote]

lewhite, we have many short,tall,stumpy,fat,old,young and hilarious trolls that come from afar to attempt to start a ruckus out of pure enjoyment due to succumbing at the hands of their inherited mental retardation. Welcome to T-Nation:D.

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[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
lewhitehurst wrote:
495 lbs incline for reps on free weights, 590 for reps on my Powertec

hey lewhite, off topic, but have you considered powerlifting during your lifting career?[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. Below is the fairly short list of men who have actually benched 600 raw in a contest. If you’re doing 495 for reps, I would think you could make this list without changing too much.
powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press

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[quote]dratner wrote:

  1. You spend more time asking questions about what to do, rather than getting your ass out there and doing it.

  2. You spend more time reading and arguing with people on forums, rather than reading articles or books from some of the best coaches and authors in the business.

  3. You can’t describe the training style of Arnold versus Dorian, Ronnie versus Mentzer, or Nimrod King versus Branch Warren.

  4. You substitute pull downs for pull ups, leg extensions for squats, machine presses for heavy ass benching.

  5. You still think red meat and egg yolks are bad for you. HA!

For those who have a physique worthy of noting, please add…[/quote]

#6 Not enough Swiss ball squats

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[quote]OBoile wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
lewhitehurst wrote:
495 lbs incline for reps on free weights, 590 for reps on my Powertec

hey lewhite, off topic, but have you considered powerlifting during your lifting career?

My thoughts exactly. Below is the fairly short list of men who have actually benched 600 raw in a contest. If you’re doing 495 for reps, I would think you could make this list without changing too much.
powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press[/quote]

I have. Actually been approached numerous times. When I was younger, I just wasn’t that focused, honestly. And since I worked out with my cousins and we were all pretty strong, I really didn’t grasp that I was that much stronger than other people. It took me years to comprehend that a 300 lb bench is a goal for a lot of people because I was doing that in HS and I played with one of my cousins (whose way bigger and stronger) and a couple other guys who could do that so I had no real frame of reference compared to other guys. And as I get older I worry about what that can do to my joints. I’ll be 40 in January and you definitely feel it more as you get older. I have also, NEVER, done a 1 max rep except for deads (since it is my weakest lift), so that would be a big change in mentality for me.

Maybe my son will be interested. He definitely has the family genes. The first thing most people say when they play with him is “Geez that kid is strong.” And yes, my head does swell when I hear it. :slight_smile:

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
OBoile wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
lewhitehurst wrote:
495 lbs incline for reps on free weights, 590 for reps on my Powertec

hey lewhite, off topic, but have you considered powerlifting during your lifting career?

My thoughts exactly. Below is the fairly short list of men who have actually benched 600 raw in a contest. If you’re doing 495 for reps, I would think you could make this list without changing too much.
powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press

I have. Actually been approached numerous times. When I was younger, I just wasn’t that focused, honestly. And since I worked out with my cousins and we were all pretty strong, I really didn’t grasp that I was that much stronger than other people. It took me years to comprehend that a 300 lb bench is a goal for a lot of people because I was doing that in HS and I played with one of my cousins (whose way bigger and stronger) and a couple other guys who could do that so I had no real frame of reference compared to other guys. And as I get older I worry about what that can do to my joints. I’ll be 40 in January and you definitely feel it more as you get older. I have also, NEVER, done a 1 max rep except for deads (since it is my weakest lift), so that would be a big change in mentality for me.

Maybe my son will be interested. He definitely has the family genes. The first thing most people say when they play with him is “Geez that kid is strong.” And yes, my head does swell when I hear it. :slight_smile: [/quote]

I grew up around some strong guys as well and most of the men in my family look like linemen. It didn’t hit me until I started posting on internet forums that my strength level was above average. Most of the posters here seemed conditioned to believe what you just wrote is impossible or makes you some rare genetic freak of such a degree that you simply look at weights and grow or that you simply started steroid use at the age of 10 or 12…as if hard work wasn’t involved.

I guess perspective is based on your environment…and I’m glad I wasn’t surrounded by extremely weak people growing up.

The only thing I wish is that I had some more guidance growing up as far as weight lifting because everything I learned, I got on my own.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I grew up around some strong guys as well and most of the men in my family look like linemen.

…and I’m glad I wasn’t surrounded by extremely weak people growing up.

[/quote]

I’m not trying to take away from your dedication throughout all these years, because I doubt anyone on this site has consistently eaten and trained as much as you have, but, gee, you’re glad you come from a family who appear to have the genetics to be large and muscular? haha No kidding! Would anyone interested in bodybuilding want to come from a family who have the bone density and mass of a sparrow?

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[quote]Buff Sax Dude wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I grew up around some strong guys as well and most of the men in my family look like linemen.

…and I’m glad I wasn’t surrounded by extremely weak people growing up.

I’m not trying to take away from your dedication throughout all these years, because I doubt anyone on this site has consistently eaten and trained as much as you have, but, gee, you’re glad you come from a family who appear to have the genetics to be large and muscular? haha No kidding! Would anyone interested in bodybuilding want to come from a family who have the bone density and mass of a sparrow?
[/quote]

That wasn’t why I wrote that. I am glad I grew up around strong people because I think less about what I can’t do than people seem to on this forum. My mom’s side of the family is filled with skinny dudes and I am pretty sure everyone thought I would take after them when I was kid. Despite being skinny as a kid, I didn’t sit around calling myself a “hard gainer” or crying about what my limits are as far as muscle growth. Instead, I saw big strong people around me and assumed that I simply had to work harder to get what I wanted.

I wasn’t given shit and I didn’t start this as some genetic freak who hardly had to touch a weight to grow.

I am also not just referring to family members but athletes at school and guys in the gym or on the basketball court. I surrounded myself with people who simply knew what they wanted and started working for it. I don’t ever remember any of them worrying about “overtraining” or crying about how small their wrists are.