This is one of the best threads on this site!! Very inspirational. I’ve got a question for you all: I’m 40, just getting back into lifting fairly seriously, but have had some knee trouble that I don’t recall ever having when in my 20s. From what I can guess, it’s probably pattelar tendonitus, because it will hurt to go up steps and squat (which really pisses me off on squat day!). Most times, if I let it rest, it’ll be ok in a few days, but I’m wondering if there’s anything I can do to improve this, short of “taking it easy” on it.
goodmorning boys, it’s 2 a.m. i see this thread is still COUGHING along… i had to ask…is there a particular old folks home we’re all gonna meet at, or, um , well, i just don’t want to miss the party, you know??? perhaps we could hunt down clint eastwood and…is there a ranch we all go to, or is it more of a COVE on an island in some warm ocean, where the chicks can relax…who’s gonna COOK for us, that’s ONE thing, and another thing is, there’s no way my dogs are gonna be on a LEASH, EVER…
so, who knows where this place is, because i’m ready to go there and get the fire started. get back to me. OUT.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
throttle132 wrote:
Finally, the over-40 lifter must be careful not to be dominated or
intimidated by the over 40 rhetoric. It is specious, spurious and insidious
with tentacles reaching the subconscious that defeat him before he’s 41."
This same concept is why I don’t believe in trying to get so many people to accept that they are “hardgainers”. If you believe that your gains will come slowly, you will make it happen physically.[/quote]
No; of course his gains will slow down or stop eventually prof X; albeit when you are nearly 80. Their will come a point where your gains will slow but their is not really any good reason why you can’t be in the shape of your life at 60; I just wouldn’t be so sure about 70.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
rockytop8888 wrote:
This is one of the best threads on this site!! Very inspirational. I’ve got a question for you all: I’m 40, just getting back into lifting fairly seriously, but have had some knee trouble that I don’t recall ever having when in my 20s. From what I can guess, it’s probably pattelar tendonitus, because it will hurt to go up steps and squat (which really pisses me off on squat day!). Most times, if I let it rest, it’ll be ok in a few days, but I’m wondering if there’s anything I can do to improve this, short of “taking it easy” on it.
Thanks all.
Get on the fish oil and stay on it.
If you’re not squatting deep it will take its toll on your knees. Nothing caused me more knee pain than when I was pussy-squatting (to parallel or above) AND squatting in the cursed Smith machine.[/quote]
Hey rt8888,
I think Push has it right. All those things make a big difference. Another thing I found that makes a big difference is stay off the leg extension machine. Lots of people use it 'cause they are too lazy to do what they should. The problem is that it only works one specific part of the quad that attaches to the kneecap. You get an imbalance that pulls the kneecap out of line when you squat and it hurts like hell. Also messes up the cartilage on the back of the kneecap. Lay off the leg extension machine if you’re using it and that should help too. It helped me.
I thought some pics of the Blonde Bomber would be appropriate here. some of these are of him in his 60’s, some in his 40’s and a couple in his younger years with the Oak.
[quote]Jimbob wrote:
Ironheart wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
praterhaus wrote:
AGE IS NOT A BARRIER!!!
Keep at it Bro!!
Ironheart
Ironheart,
Thanks for the kind words man!! I havent read this thread in a while but it’s cool to see it still going, just like us old farts!! However, I do have a confession to make…I had a brain fart. When I read back through the original post I said I was 53. Duh!!! I was 52, didn’t hit 53 until July. So the body is fine but the brain cells are mush…oh well. Sorry about that. So, I am 53 now and headed for 54 in July.
Still lifting almost every day including Sat and Sun when possible. I take a rest day when I feel like my ass is really draggin’.
I love this damn website!!! I’ve never seen so much good info on health, fitness and suplements. Incredible source for good workouts. I struggle with my shoulders from previous stupidity and “working through the pain” but I found a couple of shoulder stabilization routines here that have helped a bunch. Just did bench last week, 10x3 with 255, no pain!! Too cool.
If we just keep at it, keep up with the supplements, eat healthy, alternate heavy/low rep and light/high rep I dont see why we can’t be doing this when we’re 80!! I plan on it.
Don’t let the 5-0 scare you man. You’ll be fine and you’ve got a bunch of good ass-kick’n years ahead. I think all of us that hit the gym hard on a regular basis know the secret to keeping what you got!! I think we need to keep reading this site and try the workouts 'cause these guys really know their shit!! Also, if you haven’t tried the Carbolin 19 and the Alpha Male, you should. It really helps with recovery and strength. No side effects and no market hype. They seem to do exactly what they are supposed to.
And always remember…You rust out before you wear out!!
Lift hard buddy,
Jimbob
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Jimbo and Ironheart
Also age 52 lifting for 38 yrs. I had rotator cuff surgery 5 yrs ago had 2 tears. Switching to Dumbbells for flat bench and incline and change the grip works great for the shoulders can still do 5x5 with 100lb DB’s which drives the younger guys crazy especially a 32 yr.old who Barbell bench’s 275 for reps of 5 who struggles when he switched the other day to DB after watching me for a couple of weeks. So try the DB’s your shoulder’s will love you after awhile once they get used to the switch!!
[quote]Keith Wassung wrote:
I am 41 and have been training since age 14. Couple of thoughts.
Its more mental than ever. I can remember when I was a boy and was watching the Carson show one night-this was in the mid 1970’s. They had a guy on the show who was 65 and had run and completed the Boston Marathon-not a real fast time or anything, but was national news because he had completed it. 30 years later, people in their 70’s and 80’s who run marathons are a dime a dozen. The paradigm of what is old had changed.
I agree with lower reps and shorter workouts as one ages.
Warm-Up is essential-I never warmed up when I competed, ok, I pretended to and I guess I did later in my contest years, but normally it was a 2 minute ritual–now its mandatory
Dont rely on drugs on a long term basis. The U.S. is the most medicated nation in the world-we take 68% of all of the drugs on Earth. Drugs have a place and a purpose, but to rely on them to “give us health” is a huge mistake.
Engage in recreational activities that improve your conditioning. I hate to run-but will drop everything to go and play a game of football, which is basically running and controlled fighting, make a game out of it.
Dont hang out with your peers who “act their age”, they will poison your thought process
Heavy up on the essential minerals
Continue to set written goals, once you get in the 'I will just maintain what I have" mode, you are on steep path downhill
good posts everyone[/quote]
I’m 46 and train harder now than I did 20 years ago. Except for “normal” aches and pains I feel great and look forward to every workout. I appreciate the ability to hit the gym everyday more as I grow older but had grown a little tired of the #6 “act your age” crap coming from friends etc…
Found T-Nation a few months ago…started reading the forums and am glad to say my attitude has improved greatly. Thanks to all for the motivation!!
[quote]Bearhawk wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
Ironheart wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
praterhaus wrote:
AGE IS NOT A BARRIER!!!
Keep at it Bro!!
Ironheart
Ironheart,
Thanks for the kind words man!! I havent read this thread in a while but it’s cool to see it still going, just like us old farts!! However, I do have a confession to make…I had a brain fart. When I read back through the original post I said I was 53. Duh!!! I was 52, didn’t hit 53 until July. So the body is fine but the brain cells are mush…oh well. Sorry about that. So, I am 53 now and headed for 54 in July.
Still lifting almost every day including Sat and Sun when possible. I take a rest day when I feel like my ass is really draggin’.
I love this damn website!!! I’ve never seen so much good info on health, fitness and suplements. Incredible source for good workouts. I struggle with my shoulders from previous stupidity and “working through the pain” but I found a couple of shoulder stabilization routines here that have helped a bunch. Just did bench last week, 10x3 with 255, no pain!! Too cool.
If we just keep at it, keep up with the supplements, eat healthy, alternate heavy/low rep and light/high rep I dont see why we can’t be doing this when we’re 80!! I plan on it.
Don’t let the 5-0 scare you man. You’ll be fine and you’ve got a bunch of good ass-kick’n years ahead. I think all of us that hit the gym hard on a regular basis know the secret to keeping what you got!! I think we need to keep reading this site and try the workouts 'cause these guys really know their shit!! Also, if you haven’t tried the Carbolin 19 and the Alpha Male, you should. It really helps with recovery and strength. No side effects and no market hype. They seem to do exactly what they are supposed to.
And always remember…You rust out before you wear out!!
Lift hard buddy,
Jimbob
Jimbo and Ironheart
Also age 52 lifting for 38 yrs. I had rotator cuff surgery 5 yrs ago had 2 tears. Switching to Dumbbells for flat bench and incline and change the grip works great for the shoulders can still do 5x5 with 100lb DB’s which drives the younger guys crazy especially a 32 yr.old who Barbell bench’s 275 for reps of 5 who struggles when he switched the other day to DB after watching me for a couple of weeks. So try the DB’s your shoulder’s will love you after awhile once they get used to the switch!!
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Bearhawk,
Right you are my friend!! I have two bad rotator cuffs; one from baseball, one from stupidity but no surgery on either one. They used to give me fits 20 years ago until I started using DB work rather than BB. After a few years of DBs I could go back to BB without causing any serious problems. Still use BB for almost everything most of the time and as long as I do I dont have any real serious shoulder problems anymore. I think I’m the only one in the gym that uses the 125# DBs that hide under the DB rack. Doing 10 x 3 flat bench with those is a real nut buster!!
Work hard, don’t puke on your workout partner and trim those nose hairs. Those 3 things have helped my workouts a bunch!! See ya later and thanks for the post. We need to keep this thread going…if we can remember where to find it!!
