40+ & Gaining Muscle?

not much to contribute x cept that i agree, this is a great thread!

i too stick to big compound movememnts, squat just about every session, and i have found dumbells and FULL squats are easier on my shoulders and knees like others have stated.

great thread.

I am not Draper, but at 52 I am still adding muscle. Here is a pic showing me currently. Getting ready for my first BB comp. Have done powerlifting for a long time and the folks at the gym talked me into the comp.

I never listen to doctors who tell me I am too old to lift heavy, do not listen to my peers who ‘act their age’, eat as clean as I can, and workout everyday.

Some things do not get better with age…the ability to operate some forms of modern technology may be one of those…trying to get a pic posted.

[quote]Charlie wrote:
Some things do not get better with age…the ability to operate some forms of modern technology may be one of those…trying to get a pic posted.[/quote]

Great job !
Keep us posted…

This thread is too inspiring to let it slip away.

Looking forward to more comments from older iron warriors.

at 29 I’m not quite there yet but I’d like to give a shout out to a fellow I play rugby with.

Not a T-Man per-se as he doesn;t lift, but as a cattle farmer he also still hitting scrums at tight head prop at 46.

This is no seniors team either.

Much respect and I hope I’m still going as strong when I get there.

Age is irrelevant. You can add lean body mass as long as you are manufacturing testosterone. And if you can’t manufacture it, you can buy it legally simply by visiting an Endo and getting a script. The philosophy on T supplementation has changed 180 degrees in the last 5 years. Take advantage of it. My T levels went as low as 70 ng/dl. Now, with androgel supplementation at 7.5 mg per day, I run 600-700. As for sex drive, I could be the oldest guy to ever get banned from the Bada Bing! My nutz may be the size of chick peas, but the old Louisville Slugger is batting 1000.

At 57 I thought I had ‘peaked out’. Now, 4 years later at 61, after 49 years of lifting, I am 15 pounds heavier with 50% less bodyfat. (5’8", 185 pounds, 9% bodyfat). It took some changes in training style and life style but I still gained. Leave the age excuse to the old folks! It doesn’t cut the mustard with this old fart.

[quote]Avoids Roids wrote:
Age is irrelevant. You can add lean body mass as long as you are manufacturing testosterone. And if you can’t manufacture it, you can buy it legally simply by visiting an Endo and getting a script. The philosophy on T supplementation has changed 180 degrees in the last 5 years. Take advantage of it. My T levels went as low as 70 ng/dl. Now, with androgel supplementation at 7.5 mg per day, I run 600-700. As for sex drive, I could be the oldest guy to ever get banned from the Bada Bing! My nutz may be the size of chick peas, but the old Louisville Slugger is batting 1000.

At 57 I thought I had ‘peaked out’. Now, 4 years later at 61, after 49 years of lifting, I am 15 pounds heavier with 50% less bodyfat. (5’8", 185 pounds, 9% bodyfat). It took some changes in training style and life style but I still gained. Leave the age excuse to the old folks! It doesn’t cut the mustard with this old fart.[/quote]

Great story, keep it going. I am 45, and I don`t think I can get any stronger, without androgens, but I think I can maintain what I have built to this point.

I just turned 40 and have gained more muscle in the last three years than i did all may teenage years, course harder training and better eating helped also.HW

Im 42 y/o and have been training for the past 6 years. Out of six years I have competed in 3- powerlifting meets and have place’ed 5th in all three. I was told that pretty good from other competitors. I had read some of the othere post and realized that some of the questions that one may have concering muscle growth, strength, proper dieting and rest are well answeard. i may have miss this section on over 40’s. I did see the over 35 post. And i had mention my new membership to T-generation. THIS WEBSIT TO ME IS MORE REFRESHING THEN THAT OF BODYBUILDING .COM
Im haveing a hard time sticking to a program. i mention this befor. i want to come up with my own program. maybe im trying to hard and complicating matters. I do train hard and eat ok. i supp with 2 products and take protien. With creatin Im not sure if one really works. any suggestion?

[quote]SLERG wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Age is irrelevant. You can add lean body mass as long as you are manufacturing testosterone. And if you can’t manufacture it, you can buy it legally simply by visiting an Endo and getting a script. The philosophy on T supplementation has changed 180 degrees in the last 5 years. Take advantage of it. My T levels went as low as 70 ng/dl. Now, with androgel supplementation at 7.5 mg per day, I run 600-700. As for sex drive, I could be the oldest guy to ever get banned from the Bada Bing! My nutz may be the size of chick peas, but the old Louisville Slugger is batting 1000.

At 57 I thought I had ‘peaked out’. Now, 4 years later at 61, after 49 years of lifting, I am 15 pounds heavier with 50% less bodyfat. (5’8", 185 pounds, 9% bodyfat). It took some changes in training style and life style but I still gained. Leave the age excuse to the old folks! It doesn’t cut the mustard with this old fart.

Great story, keep it going. I am 45, and I don`t think I can get any stronger, without androgens, but I think I can maintain what I have built to this point.
[/quote] hot dame dude. keep going. any news for ths youngster at 42.

[quote]assbuster wrote:
BrianFoley wrote:
assbuster;

what’s your current routine like, if you don’t mind me asking.

Brian

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the compliment. Here is my current routine. It’s kind of advanced and I change it up about every 4 to 6 weeks. Currently I’m training for both Strength & Hypertrophy:

Monday Leg Day

Warm up 10 mins. on stationary bike and then 3 progressive sets of Hacks (not counted here in set/rep volume) You should always make sure you?re completely warmed or you?ll injure yourself but especially this routine.

4 X 12 - 15 Hack Squats
3 X 12 ? 15 45 deg. Leg Presses
3 X 7 - 8 Barbell Squats
4 X 12 - 15 Lying Leg Curls
4 X 8 - 10 Seated Leg Curls
2 X 25 Seated Calf Raises
2 X 25 Standing Calf Raises

Tuesday Chest Day

Warm up 10 mins. on Elliptical then 3 sets progressive weight warm up with Incline Dumbbell Presses (not counted here in set/rep volume)

3 X 15 Incline Dumbbell Presses
3 X 10 - 12 Incline Barbell Presses
3 X 10 - 12 Weighted Dips
2 X 10 - 12 Incline Dumbbell Flies
2 X 10 - 12 Flat Dumbbell Flies
2 X 25 Seated Calf Raises
2 X 25 Standing Calf Raises
(My calves are stubborn suckers so they get extra attention)

Wednesday Back Day

Warm up 10 mines. on Elliptical then 3 sets progressive weight warm-ups with Seated Cable Rows (not counted here in set/rep volume)

4 X 12 - 15 Seated Cable Rows
4 X 15 Lat Pull Downs (front wide grip)
4 X 12 Barbell Bent over Rows
3 X 12 - 15 1 Arm Standing Cable Rows
2 X 10 - 12 Dumbbell Dead Lifts
2 X 10 Weighted Hyper Extensions

Thursday Shoulders Day

Warm up 10 mines. on Elliptical then 3 sets progressive weight warm-ups with Standing Side Lateral Raises (not counted here in set/rep volume)

4 X 10 - 12 Seated Side Dumbbell Laterals
4 X 10 - 12 Front Dumbbell Laterals
4 X 12 Barbell Military Presses (Standing)
Pyramid 15 - 12 - 10 Upright Barbell Rows
2 X 25 Seated Calf Raises
2 X 25 Standing Calf Raises

Friday Arms Day

Warm up 10 mines. on Elliptical then 3 sets progressive weight warm-ups with EZ Bar Curls (not counted here in set/rep volume)

Pyramid 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 Barbell Curls
Pyramid 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 Seated Incline Dumbbell Curls
Pyramid 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 Triceps Pushdowns
Pyramid 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 Scull Crushers
4 X 10 - 12 Dumbbell Preacher Curls
4 X 10 - 12 Close Grip Bench Presses

My abs are strong and well developed. They get a lot of incidental work through out the week. However sometimes I’ll substitute abs as a warm-up rather than the Elliptical. Can you tell the Elliptical is my favorite machine (Grin)?

As I said earlier this is my “current routine”. I have a few others that I?ll be happy to post later.

Have on hand a gallon of water or your favorite sports drink. Hydration is very important here. You will sweat bullets doing this routine, especially the first few weeks. I rest no more than 2 mins between sets on major muscle groups like legs and chest and 1 min or less on small muscles like biceps and calves. I train at about 80 - 85% of my 1RM on all exercises except finishing moves like flies.

Please keep in mind this is not a routine for someone just getting started. And as always pass it by someone you know and trust like a PT, MD or some of the coaches here at T-Nation before trying it . This routine is not for the faint of heart, but the results are phenomenal.

I hope this helps.

Ass Buster
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great program. can you modify one for me. i squat 496. bench 276 i should be above 315.deadlift 496 as well. the bench is the weakest.i just need a good program. there alot out there. i try to set up a program that for me, well you know how it is. i would like to squat well over 500 to mid 550. bench around 320 and above. my deadlift is my best lift. can you help me out bro.

[quote]throttle132 wrote:
I thought some pics of the Blonde Bomber would be appropriate here. some of these are of him in his 60’s, some in his 40’s and a couple in his younger years with the Oak.[/quote]

you gotta be kidding me. this guy looks great!!!

Excellent post!!! I am not geneticaly gifted as most of you are, and I know that at 53 pushing 54 the imporatance of weight trainning as we age. I work in a fairly physical environment quite abit of heavey lifting and moving objects and weight trainning has not only given me the power to keep up with the 20 something year olds I look better, ( no pot belly)work harder and last one hell of alot better in the heat here in AZ.

At 5’ 6" and 155 I am no giant and around 12% body fat. training 3X aweek, no drugs, got all my organs, sex life is great I notice even the 20 something females look. Keep it up all!

Great thread, very inspiring. I turn 40 next month and dont plan to ever stop lifting. I think it has been easier to put on muscle into my late 30’s. I plan to continue to improve into my 40’s, 50’s and 60’s.

Im always interested how others train, do most of you guys hit each bodypart once a week? Anybody hitting bodyparts twice a week?

Three times per week full body!

Day 1- legs
Day 2- chest and back
Day 3- shoulders and arms (bi’s, tri’s and forearms)
Day 4- start all over.In between any day take a couple days off to confuse me and my musckils.

I have made my best gains this year at 40 yoa.

I have lifted since high school and then in my 30’s I decided to try something different and began doing triathlons. At about 38 I switched back to bodybuilding /powerlifting and have made awesome gains.

I am 5’4" and weigh about 180 with about 10-12 BF%. I bench 385, squat and deadlift 450 raw. I am planning on hitting my first BB contest next September but wold like to gain another 10-15 pounds before dieting down for it. All natural, never used AAS.

I still train extremely hard and plan to continue to do so for a long time.

The biggest mistake a 40+ lifter can make is to follow those 40+ ‘suggested routines’ you see in the rags and online.

Great thread and it’s nice to see there are aot of ‘old ironworkers’!!

Keep it up.

Not trying to pimp Biotest, but I have to indicate my gains at the young age of 41.

I’ve hovered around 200lb now for awhile, not gaining, not losing…mostly due I believe to my “family” lifestyle where training for maximum gains is not at an all time priority.

Since adding in copious amounts of Biotest’s BCAAs (using CT’s dosing protocol), 6 tabs of Beta-7/day, and HOT-ROX Extreme, I gained 10lb. And according to the calipers, my bodyfat has not changed. As far as training or nutrition is concernte, nothing else changed.

I consider myself an advanced trainer. To make gains like this after several years of training (over 2 decades worth)I never thought possible unless I went on a higher dose steroid cycle.

Guess I will pay alot more attention to what CT writes regarding nutrition from now on.