40+ & Gaining Muscle?

Glad to see this thread is still going. I haven’t looked at it in several months.

I continue to see great strength and LBM gains following Barardi massive eating, supplementing with Alpha Male and Carbolin 19, powerlift training via Westside Template, and supplemental mass development work via Thibaudeau’s arm and shoulder routines, etc.

I turned 47 in December and have no plans to quit growing for some time.

[quote]Jimbob wrote:
praterhaus wrote:
AGE IS NOT A BARRIER!!!

Most of the barriers we have are in our mind. If you can just get your head in the right place the “old bod’” will follow.

I’m 53 now. 6’2" and about 240 at 15% BF. I don’t measure myself anymore just cause it doesn’t really matter to me. I never get sick. My health is perfect. I dont take any prescription meds for anything. I spent last weekend moving 15 tons of hay with two kids less that half my age and had no problem keeping up with them even on the second day when we moved 22 tons!

I can still do most if not all of what I did at a much younger age …but the consequences have changed a little. I can still Bench 350+ but my shoulders will bitch like hell for a week after. I can still squat 500+ but my lower back and right knee get really pissed. I can still do weighted dips but my shoulders and right elbow protest. I blew both hamstrings (right one twice) doing deads. BFD!!

Can you remember a time when you worked hard and regularly and didn’t have some type of owie? I can’t. However, I always have more owies on weeks when I DON’T workout. I still have new ones every week…some weeks more than others. If you keep yourself healthy, keep working out and use some common sense when you get whacked you can recover.

My personal belief is that you rust out before you wear out. I also think there are some basic truths that apply to everyone but especially to those of us who have plenty of miles on us.

Some of my own personal truths are:

  1. Rest, Ice and NSAIDs are your friends. Use 'em. Everyday, every workout, even if you dont think you need 'em. They’re cheap and easy to use and preventing problems is easier than fixing problems.

  2. All the terrific nutrition, supps, vits, cycling, etc. won’t do any good if you can’t digest and absorb it. Get a good digestive enzyme mix and use it every day. Get a good intestinal flora mix that is enteric coated and use it every day. I think this is REALLY important as you age. This has made a huge difference in my ability to recover.

  3. Live the T-Man lifestyle. Workout like a madman. Mix it up and try new things. Avoid the over-use boogie man. Rest when necessary. Challenge yourself. Get a GOOD trainer. After 50 I think we DESERVE one!!

  4. Read this website and every article in it like your life and health depended on it…‘cause it does. This site is the most amazing source of health and workout info I’ve ever seen. Nuttin’ else even comes close. I even quit browsing the porn sites cause this site is so terrific. (Ok, ok, even I call BS on that one…)

  5. Never stop chasing the ladies or at least lusting after them. Dogs chase cars they have no intention of catching just because it’s fun. Act like a dog…but don’t lick your nuts.

Damn, cant belive I yapped this long. Sorry about that. Guess I better pound a couple more Spike with a Geritol chaser.

Oh, and to answer the original question, I absolutely 100% believe it’s possible to gain muscle using the new advances in nutrition, training and medicine long after you hit the 4-0. I plan to keep doing it until they nail the coffin door shut!!

See ya.

Jimbob [/quote]

Great post Bro! I get sick and tired of hearing people complain about getting old. F them! Yeah, so I have a few aches and pains. They remind me I’m alive. I lift the same way I did 30 years ago, heavy and high volume. I’m 49 and don’t give a fuck. I love when some guy at the gym tells me that I look great and should enjoy it because when I’m “his” age I won’t be able to keep it up. It’s priceless when they find out I’m 6-10 years older then them.

Keep at it Bro!!
Ironheart

[quote]Ironheart wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
praterhaus wrote:
AGE IS NOT A BARRIER!!!

Keep at it Bro!!
Ironheart

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Ironheart,
Thanks for the kind words man!! I havent read this thread in a while but it’s cool to see it still going, just like us old farts!! However, I do have a confession to make…I had a brain fart. When I read back through the original post I said I was 53. Duh!!! I was 52, didn’t hit 53 until July. So the body is fine but the brain cells are mush…oh well. Sorry about that. So, I am 53 now and headed for 54 in July.
Still lifting almost every day including Sat and Sun when possible. I take a rest day when I feel like my ass is really draggin’.
I love this damn website!!! I’ve never seen so much good info on health, fitness and suplements. Incredible source for good workouts. I struggle with my shoulders from previous stupidity and “working through the pain” but I found a couple of shoulder stabilization routines here that have helped a bunch. Just did bench last week, 10x3 with 255, no pain!! Too cool.
If we just keep at it, keep up with the supplements, eat healthy, alternate heavy/low rep and light/high rep I dont see why we can’t be doing this when we’re 80!! I plan on it.
Don’t let the 5-0 scare you man. You’ll be fine and you’ve got a bunch of good ass-kick’n years ahead. I think all of us that hit the gym hard on a regular basis know the secret to keeping what you got!! I think we need to keep reading this site and try the workouts 'cause these guys really know their shit!! Also, if you haven’t tried the Carbolin 19 and the Alpha Male, you should. It really helps with recovery and strength. No side effects and no market hype. They seem to do exactly what they are supposed to.

And always remember…You rust out before you wear out!!

Lift hard buddy,
Jimbob

I have to say that age is not the barrier, it’s the mindset that presents the problem for most. How “old” would you be if you didn’t know when you were born? I’ll be 41 next month and I feel that I am in the best shape of my life. I run, lift,snowboard, bike, and hike. These are all things I did LESS of when I was younger.

Last year I worked out with a guy at my gym that was 73! He was one cordy ripped mofo. He would run for 45 min then lift and the guy could do LOTS of pullups.He inspired many of us.

As I age I guess my desire just to feel good is what gives me the resolve to keep pushing myself. When I try new stuff I still make gains in spite of my age…I’m wondering how much better I’ll feel when I’m 50.

There’s a lot of excellent posts on here. Very, very good.

Gives me hope that I’ll be able to do the same thing when I’m as old as you old, old men.

Yea I’m 21. Suckers :wink:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Gives me hope that I’ll be able to do the same thing when I’m as old as you old, old men.

Yea I’m 21. Suckers ;)[/quote]

You will be able to…unless you keep making smart ass comments like that… which could get your skull caved in by an aluminum walker!!! :wink:
I enjoy your posts man, you have some good ones.
Jimbob

[quote]Jimbob wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Gives me hope that I’ll be able to do the same thing when I’m as old as you old, old men.

Yea I’m 21. Suckers :wink:

You will be able to…unless you keep making smart ass comments like that… which could get your skull caved in by an aluminum walker!!! :wink:
I enjoy your posts man, you have some good ones.
Jimbob[/quote]

Yeah you old guys hold him down while this old, old lady pounds him with her cane!! :slight_smile:

[quote]tinybutmighty wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Gives me hope that I’ll be able to do the same thing when I’m as old as you old, old men.

Yea I’m 21. Suckers :wink:

You will be able to…unless you keep making smart ass comments like that… which could get your skull caved in by an aluminum walker!!! :wink:
I enjoy your posts man, you have some good ones.
Jimbob

Yeah you old guys hold him down while this old, old lady pounds him with her cane!! :)[/quote]

Hahaha.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
tinybutmighty wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Gives me hope that I’ll be able to do the same thing when I’m as old as you old, old men.

Yea I’m 21. Suckers :wink:

You will be able to…unless you keep making smart ass comments like that… which could get your skull caved in by an aluminum walker!!! :wink:
I enjoy your posts man, you have some good ones.
Jimbob

Yeah you old guys hold him down while this old, old lady pounds him with her cane!! :slight_smile:

Hahaha.[/quote]

Be afraid FI26, be very afraid!!

You know TBM, your post brings up one of my favorite points about working out. The workouts are not the end of the process, they are just the begining. They keep me in shape for the other things I can’t live without. Outside is where it’s at: hiking, hunting, fishing, scuba, shooting, whatever. I spend lots of time in the gym so I can just grab my “stuff”, whatever “stuff” strikes my fancy and head out the door. I dont have to think about getting in shape for it 'cause I try to stay in shape for it whatever “it” is.
I’m also sick and tired of having people tell me I’m too old to do the things I like to do and I’ll get hurt if I don’t stop.
I have more money and more time to do the things I like to do now than at any time in my life and at 50+ years old I know myself better than anyone else on this planet. I can damn well make up my own mind about what to do and not do because I been there and done it!!
I was just telling a friend that the golden years are NOW. I have money for the first time. I have free time. Kid is out on her own. I still have my health and most of my brain cells. I’m comfortable with who and what I am and, with all due respect, don’t give a shit what other people think I am. I’m pretty happy with the person I see in the mirror. Life is all about balance.

Holy crap, ok, rant over!!

Life is short and you don’t get to do it again. Don’t live your life with regrets.

You rust out before you wear out.

Jimbob

JB you are right on!! Just keep doing what it is that you do. Your “rant” was dead on. I love to set new goals and look forward to trying new challenges… it’s what I did when I was a kid. Thats what keeps us moving forward. I do a lot of stuff just because it’s FUN. I cracks me up when people my age shake their heads at me…

I’ll be 45 tomorrow - Happy Birthday to me!! Anybody got a picture of Albert Beckles they can post? That guy looked awesome into his 50’s and 60’s. What an inspiration!!
I think my 40’s have been some of the greatest years of my life. I have been really invigorated by the things I’ve been reading on T-Nation and love trying them out in the gym.

I’ve been married for 11 years and really enjoy the fact that my wife (who’s 6 years younger) really likes her “old muscley guy”. Although she’s been making quite a commotion about how big my butt is getting. I know she appreciates that I don’t look like the typical 45 year old man.

I’ve got three kids that think I’m Superman and they are the light of my life. :slight_smile: It should be cool when they hit high school. I think it will be fun to “Pump’ Arn” with my son and size up potential suitors for my girls.

I firmly believe that my 50’s can be just as full of personal growth and fun-in-the-gym as my 40’s. But I’ve got 5 more years till I need to think about posting on “50 plus and Gaining Muscle”. :slight_smile: Cheers!!

[quote]Omnivore wrote:
I’ll be 45 tomorrow - Happy Birthday to me!! Anybody got a picture of Albert Beckles they can post? That guy looked awesome into his 50’s and 60’s. What an inspiration!!
I think my 40’s have been some of the greatest years of my life. I have been really invigorated by the things I’ve been reading on T-Nation and love trying them out in the gym.

I’ve been married for 11 years and really enjoy the fact that my wife (who’s 6 years younger) really likes her “old muscley guy”. Although she’s been making quite a commotion about how big my butt is getting. I know she appreciates that I don’t look like the typical 45 year old man.

I’ve got three kids that think I’m Superman and they are the light of my life. :slight_smile: It should be cool when they hit high school. I think it will be fun to “Pump’ Arn” with my son and size up potential suitors for my girls.

I firmly believe that my 50’s can be just as full of personal growth and fun-in-the-gym as my 40’s. But I’ve got 5 more years till I need to think about posting on “50 plus and Gaining Muscle”. :slight_smile: Cheers!!
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I think many, many people get the feeling that the best, most productive years of their lives are over by fifty. And I think this directly relates to the way they feel about their health and fitness.

Good job!

Can I get a “HELL YEAH” ?

HELL FREAKIN’ YEAH!!

There’s a guy in my gym who’s 61. I’m guessing he’s 5’8" around 170 at 9% BF - all natural with solid definition. He looks better than ~95% of the guys at the gym and certainly puts the majority of 20 something wanna be’s to shame! If I look half as good as him at 60 I’ll be a happy guy.

I just got the March issue of M&F and on pg. 32 there is a great short article on a guy that pulled his shit together at 55! He GAINED muscle and reduced his bodyfat to 10%-13%. Not bad at all, this guy looks GREAT…

This thread has really re-energized my workouts lately. Thanks you guys!

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I don’t know if this is the right thread for this post or not but I just hit 130 lbs. for reps on my overhead squats. I’m tickled because for me they are TUF. It has taken me months to get there.

What about others of you who overhead squatting?[/quote]

Well Push, although I am not 35 and you know me as the guy making wiseass comments in the Sex and the Male Animal section under another name, I have found that a few things have helped me when I have actually attempted overhead squats since they are not part of my regular routine. Personally I think there are a few small form tips that have helped tremedously. Maybe you are already doing them but here it goes:

  1. Keeping your shoulders down and your scap retracted. This has helped immensely in my regular squat immensely after Jim Wendler of Elite Fitness showed me how to squat properly.
  2. Belly out. Fill your belly with air before you descend and never breath through your chest. Make sure your belly is pushing against your belt as you descend and for most of the ascent.
  3. Although you are using a narrow or medium stance in an OH squat it is still important to sit down AND BACK.
  4. Stretch the pecs.
  5. Find out where you are weak in the lift or where you FEEL you are weak and attack that weakness. I feel the hams are very importan in the OH squat since they are involved in sitting back. In an OH lift the bar is constantly trying to throw you forward, especially if your upper back is weak. Also abs or quads can be an issue.