Anyone using 4 AD-EC for long term use as described in the article “never ending cycle” by Cy Wilson. I recently started using 4 AD-EC and was wondering what kind of results people were getting and if anyone is using this product for long term(12 weeks) use.
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would 4ad long term be as suppressive as a real steroid cycle? since i remember reading that taking 200mg test/week is just as suppressive as taking 1g test/week, would 4ad do something similar?
no it wont,. that is why it is recommended to use 4ad and not mag 10 for long periods.
lumburjak, check Cy’s never ending cycle article out.
In short, he theorizes that as long as the steroid cannot aromatize to estrogen, and does not bind avidly to the AR, then it will not cause significant suppression, and can therefore be used for very long periods of time.
Sorry I couldn’t contribute to the original Q, as I’ve never used 4-AD-EC. You may want to check Goldberg’s past posts though. He had very good results last year as a powerlifter, and I remember him speaking highly of the stuff. I think he used it for 10-12 weeks.
Peace,
Ryan
i understand mag10 has class 1 so it binds to the receptor, but i thought 4ad acted like free test, which is a class 2. so this would give the impression that a test only cycle would give only minor suppression.