[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
H4M youre my boy
but sumo pulling is a joke
His hips are moving <6" up and down with each rep
Looks like he’s doing quarter squats while giving birth in the neolithic era[/quote]
from your pic, your probably bigger and more knowledgable than most guys here… but seriously man
jealous often?
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
His hips are moving <6" up and down with each rep
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Good for him.
Man - I use straps AND lift sumo… I feel like a pussy! LMAO
[quote]Blue Steel wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
H4M youre my boy
but sumo pulling is a joke
His hips are moving <6" up and down with each rep
Looks like he’s doing quarter squats while giving birth in the neolithic era[/quote]
from your pic, your probably bigger and more knowledgable than most guys here… but seriously man
jealous often?[/quote]
Lol @ Bonez being jealous…
Anywho. Sumo is only cheating if your under 5’9"
I actually pull more conventional than sumo by a hair, but to the point of sumo being cheating/shorter ROM, etc. if pulling sumo was so much damn easier than pulling conventional why are virtually all the world records, raw and equipped, done conventionally?
Good lord, does that guy really need all those reps? Surely he could give me 4 or 5…
[quote]kilpaba wrote:
I actually pull more conventional than sumo by a hair, but to the point of sumo being cheating/shorter ROM, etc. if pulling sumo was so much damn easier than pulling conventional why are virtually all the world records, raw and equipped, done conventionally?[/quote]
Why do most female PLers pull sumo?
Limb length, proportions, dominant muscle groups (quads vs posterior chain)
Im not jealous. Im not a powerlifter and I havent deadlifted in over 8 months and that was after a year of not doing it. And when I pulled 495 for a half dozen reps at 170lbs without taking breaks I did it conventional I looked better than him. He is clearly a stronger puller than I am, but I dont train to be as strong as possible. So think what you want. It doesnt really matter, its simply my opinion.
I never said it was cheating. Sumo is accepted in the PL federations Im aware of.
At least Im not calling fake plates lol.
I mean the video says 6 44lb plates. I assume that’s those big fat ones. I dont see three per side. Or maybe the 44s are the skinny ones and I still dont see 3 per side, but maybe he filmed it from the side because the lighting was better than filming it straight on O_o. I dont know. But hey Im just the jealous guy
[quote]lia67 wrote:
[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Jesus
26th Birthday Lifting Challenge - YouTube!
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im not suprised ,last week i saw the guy in the video trainin and sharing tips with AM14go8 (op from “are people here not trying very hard” post) .[/quote]
You saw him? With your own eyes?
Dudes from maryland, studying at Notre Dame. You and the kid with the face are from the UK. Unless I missed something. Sure it was this guy?
Let me preface this with: H4M is strong as an ox.
Matt Kroc was quoted as calling sumos cheater pulls, and many high level powerlifters I’ve talked to have told me about the same. I don’t think sumos should be allowed in the same competition as conventional, or at least records should be denoted which is which.
That said, I couldn’t do this sumo or conventional.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]davethebarbarian wrote:
…Matt Kroc was quoted as calling sumos cheater pulls, and many high level powerlifters I’ve talked to have told me about the same. I don’t think sumos should be allowed in the same competition as conventional, or at least records should be denoted which is which…[/quote]
Then why do so many folks, myself included, have better numbers with conventional deads?[/quote]
One could also argue the biggest deadlifts in the world are conventional. I think this has to do with individual biomechanics as well as what movements have been trained. You have trained conventional more than sumo, no? Myself, I can sumo deadlift close to what I can regular deadlift, and I have sumo deadlifted 2-3 times ever. Shorter guys seem to do better sumo, whereas conventional seems to suit taller lifters better. I just think it’s odd that sumo and regular deadlift are both counted as “deadlift” in powerlifting competitions.
[quote]davethebarbarian wrote:
I just think it’s odd that sumo and regular deadlift are both counted as “deadlift” in powerlifting competitions.[/quote]
Fair enough, but there are other sports where performing different techniques are legally okay in competition - the advent and widespread use of the Fosbury flop in high jump comes to mind. If both techniques are accepted in PL comp then use the combination of bio mechanics and preference to hit the highest weight possible.
Personally my sumo lags about 100lbs or more behind my conventional and that was after about 6 months of training in an attempt to bring it up. I’ve just accepted that I’m build to be a conventional lifter. I’m 6’ and have narrow shoulders and long arms/legs. I always think that perhaps I should do better sumo as I’m a wide stance squatter but it never happens.
Cheating? Well everyone is entitled to their opinion but until sumo pullers start holding all the records I think that’s a pretty lame claim. So wide stance squatting is cheating?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]davethebarbarian wrote:
…Matt Kroc was quoted as calling sumos cheater pulls, and many high level powerlifters I’ve talked to have told me about the same. I don’t think sumos should be allowed in the same competition as conventional, or at least records should be denoted which is which…[/quote]
Then why do so many folks, myself included, have better numbers with conventional deads?[/quote]
I had a better conventional pull than sumo until i devoted over a year training specifically for the sumo. then my sumo went about 10% more than my conventional. that is reversed now, because I do not compete anymore, I deadlift just for muscle building, not for the highest numbers, so never sumo anymore.
the guys who have the record deadlifts have those records because they are the biggest, strongest and baddest motherfuckers competing. the fact that they happen to pull conventional is anecdotal IMHO
I am sure others would disagree, that is just my thoughts.
Amazing!
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]davethebarbarian wrote:
…Matt Kroc was quoted as calling sumos cheater pulls, and many high level powerlifters I’ve talked to have told me about the same. I don’t think sumos should be allowed in the same competition as conventional, or at least records should be denoted which is which…[/quote]
Then why do so many folks, myself included, have better numbers with conventional deads?[/quote]
I had a better conventional pull than sumo until i devoted over a year training specifically for the sumo. then my sumo went about 10% more than my conventional. that is reversed now, because I do not compete anymore, I deadlift just for muscle building, not for the highest numbers, so never sumo anymore.
the guys who have the record deadlifts have those records because they are the biggest, strongest and baddest motherfuckers competing. the fact that they happen to pull conventional is anecdotal IMHO
I am sure others would disagree, that is just my thoughts.
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I think Coan did his best pulls semi-sumo/modified sumo… Basically legs just outside your grip, not all the way to the plates like so many do.
That is closer to a conventional pull, but it gets your thighs out of the way… Only way I can pull safely off the floor… I’m not built for pulling as it is, but this allows me to go down without rounding (my actual ROM really isn’t much different, I have to get fairly far down still). I just can’t properly arch my lower back otherwise… No matter how much stretching etc I do, I think it’s partially the way my hip joints are built maybe… I can kick fairly high to the side without tilting my pelvis, but I can’t kick high to the front…
Thought this was gonna be a dumbass thread about some loser doing something stupid so I didn’t look til now.
And holy fuck.
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Thought this was gonna be a dumbass thread about some loser doing something stupid so I didn’t look til now.
And holy fuck.[/quote]
Takes some conditioning… I don’t care about his ROM, doing 26 reps of deadlifts at a heavy weight tends to end up with me fighting for consciousness 