[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOLZ @ the bitches hating on sumo.
Considering about 0.5% of the population on this board could even hit ONE rep at 3x bodyweight, regardless of stance…yeah…stfu. [/quote]
16 posts complimenting the lift
7 off topic comments none of which were hating on sumo
1 FML
and
1 SARCASTIC comment about sumo deadlifting?
It’s your reality i guess.
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Good heavens aussie, if you haven’t noticed a general trend of many conventional deadlifters calling sumo “cheating”, you haven’t been around very long. [/quote]
Haha. Yeah, i must of missed that one in the last 10 years. Must be hanging in the wrong circles
Not to knock the guy’s power, 'cuz he’s definitely a strong mofo… but it’s my personal opinion that using straps on deads somewhat darkens the beauty of the lift. If you can’t hold onto the bar from the floor-on-up, then you really can’t ‘pull’ it off the ground, right?
Granted, even with straps I couldn’t pull what he did. Just saying my part.
Edited for clarity. No coffee in bloodstream, yet.
Are you kidding me with the 'not to knock his power but…" comment? Your hands would be burger after that many reps with that weight. This wasn’t a max attempt in a competition for crying out loud. Sometimes straps let you push the rest of your body harder without worrying about your hands (this is why most oly lifters always wear straps when snatching- it preserves the callouses on your hands while still letting you get work in). Kaz used to use straps all the time when he worked out (anyone lucky enough to go to Auburn and workout at his gym knows what I am talking about), because he felt like if he was their to train back or whatever then he wasn’t going to train his grip (to paraphrase terribly). 3x BW for 26 reps is an incredible display of overall body strength, conditioning and mental fortitude. That was beastly on any and all levels straps be damned.
[quote]kilpaba wrote:
Are you kidding me with the 'not to knock his power but…" comment? Your hands would be burger after that many reps with that weight. This wasn’t a max attempt in a competition for crying out loud. Sometimes straps let you push the rest of your body harder without worrying about your hands (this is why most oly lifters always wear straps when snatching- it preserves the callouses on your hands while still letting you get work in). Kaz used to use straps all the time when he worked out (anyone lucky enough to go to Auburn and workout at his gym knows what I am talking about), because he felt like if he was their to train back or whatever then he wasn’t going to train his grip (to paraphrase terribly). 3x BW for 26 reps is an incredible display of overall body strength, conditioning and mental fortitude. That was beastly on any and all levels straps be damned.[/quote]
Yeah, this.
Dont think for a second this guy couldn’t hold onto that weight for a full rep. It was a 26 rep set FFS.
I’m a powerlifter and I’m going to be the first to admit that I think the great strap controversy is just misguided - and I myself have been victim to it. I am a slave to the mentality that if you cannot hold it, you can’t lift it. Well, if you’re training back, what difference does it make if you can hold it? None. And I think my training over the years has probably suffered because of it. I’m not sure I’m running out to purchase straps, but my mentality sure is changing. That said, there is a real difference between what you can lift with straps and without. The take home message? If you want to pull bigger weights - work your damn grip!
All that said, I wouldn’t mention the use of straps when someone is doing 26 damn reps, because I don’t think I’d be much more impressed if he did 26 reps with NO STRAPS.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOLZ @ the bitches hating on sumo.
Considering about 0.5% of the population on this board could even hit ONE rep at 3x bodyweight, regardless of stance…yeah…stfu. [/quote]
16 posts complimenting the lift
7 off topic comments none of which were hating on sumo
1 FML
and
1 SARCASTIC comment about sumo deadlifting?
It’s your reality i guess.
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Good heavens aussie, if you haven’t noticed a general trend of many conventional deadlifters calling sumo “cheating”, you haven’t been around very long. [/quote]
I dunno about that. I can conventional more than I can sumo. I don’t think sumo is “easier”…just different motor pathways. Shorter distance? Arguably yes. But what you gain in lessening the difference, I think you lose in terms of some of the stronger muscles you leverage in conventional. At the end of the day, I think it’s a very individual thing, but by no means is it necessarily “easier” than conventional.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I did 8 sumo (conventional being my stronger position) singles the other day at 505 at a bw of 215 and it taxed me out so this effort blows me away. Very impressive![/quote]
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’m a powerlifter and I’m going to be the first to admit that I think the great strap controversy is just misguided - and I myself have been victim to it. I am a slave to the mentality that if you cannot hold it, you can’t lift it. Well, if you’re training back, what difference does it make if you can hold it? None. And I think my training over the years has probably suffered because of it. I’m not sure I’m running out to purchase straps, but my mentality sure is changing. That said, there is a real difference between what you can lift with straps and without. The take home message? If you want to pull bigger weights - work your damn grip!
All that said, I wouldn’t mention the use of straps when someone is doing 26 damn reps, because I don’t think I’d be much more impressed if he did 26 reps with NO STRAPS. [/quote]
Agreed. I was of the “no straps for any reason” school for a long time and that worked to my benefit regarding grip strength. At this point, if I was going for more than sets of 5 I would use them for sure, once my grip started to fail. I use them exclusively for snatch grip pulls now.
Anyways, straps or not, this is some very impressive lifting.
On the whole straps thing, to continue beating a dead horse, it isn’t just the grip strength that is an issue at really high weights and reps. Your hands simply start tearing up. I have been lifting hard for over a decade, never with gloves, have thick callouses and STILL will tear a callous off when doing high rep snatching or even sometimes deadlifting. I have never even attempted 26 reps with that sort of weight (and I weigh 220lbs. much more than this fellah) so I can’t even fathom the stress that would put on his hands.
There is a video of the Chinese Oly team and in one of the interviews one of the more prominent lifter talked about how much time he had to spend maintaining his hands and filing down callouses to prevent tearing. Very tough to lift when you have open wounds and scabs on your hands.
Long story short, straps aren’t just to cover up for a lack of grip strength. They let you do more work while preserving your mitts.
