If I were to squat like that, I’d probably be injured. I think it’s great that her form works wonders for her. She should keep it up.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
If I were to squat like that, I’d probably be injured. I think it’s great that her form works wonders for her. She should keep it up.[/quote]
It works for her because she is strong and has trained a whole lot. Does anyone her every recall seeing a clean and jerk? they have to get a low as possible to clean the weight, they bounce in the low position and do a front squat. These are not picture perfect front squats btw.
I used to squat like that, I fixed it 
Impressive…and she is hot.
Women with thick legs = WIN.
[quote]daraz wrote:
Calm down there champ. “she is more of an expert at moving weights than you will be at anything” “I doubt anyone on this thread can do 320x10 for full squats” “This girl has done more squats in her life than all of the participants in this thread combined”
Her feat is great and all, but your little claims just don’t hold up. Besides, these guys have very legitimate concerns, and here you are riding a chick’s nuts going PC on everyone for having good intentions.
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Don’t hold up?
Fact: She’s an Olympian in Olympic-style weightlifting
Claim: She is more of an expert at moving weights than most of you will ever be at anything.
Fact: Olympians are the top .0001% of the world in the sport they are in.
Fact: Very few people every get to be the top .0001% of the world in anything.
Claim: I doubt anyone on this board can full squat 320x10.
Fact: Few people actually full squat, most people barely hit parallel.
Fact: 320 full squat for 10 reps is good for medium-level men’s olympic lifters.
Fact: Medium level men’s lifters are better at full squatting than the grand majority of other people who go to the gym.
Claim: She has done more full squatting than the rest of this thread combined
Fact: Top level Olympic lifters squat between 4-6 times a week.
Fact: She has been lifting for years.
Fact: Most people don’t full squat (see above)
Actually, I think my claims are pretty well supported.
Further, the concerns people had were fairly myopic, considering that this woman has coaches who know more about olympic style weightlifting (and the squatting that goes along with it) than, yes, another claim coming, all the T-nations authors combined.
They’ve produced Olympian after Olympian. In fact, I’d say its arrogant to suggest she is doing them wrong. Asking why they are like that is a different story, but most of the people were trying to claim she was abusing form.
[quote]Dr. Manhattan wrote:
daraz wrote:
Calm down there champ. “she is more of an expert at moving weights than you will be at anything” “I doubt anyone on this thread can do 320x10 for full squats” “This girl has done more squats in her life than all of the participants in this thread combined”
Her feat is great and all, but your little claims just don’t hold up. Besides, these guys have very legitimate concerns, and here you are riding a chick’s nuts going PC on everyone for having good intentions.
Don’t hold up?
Fact: She’s an Olympian in Olympic-style weightlifting
Claim: She is more of an expert at moving weights than most of you will ever be at anything.
Fact: Olympians are the top .0001% of the world in the sport they are in.
Fact: Very few people every get to be the top .0001% of the world in anything.
Claim: I doubt anyone on this board can full squat 320x10.
Fact: Few people actually full squat, most people barely hit parallel.
Fact: 320 full squat for 10 reps is good for medium-level men’s olympic lifters.
Fact: Medium level men’s lifters are better at full squatting than the grand majority of other people who go to the gym.
Claim: She has done more full squatting than the rest of this thread combined
Fact: Top level Olympic lifters squat between 4-6 times a week.
Fact: She has been lifting for years.
Fact: Most people don’t full squat (see above)
Actually, I think my claims are pretty well supported.
Further, the concerns people had were fairly myopic, considering that this woman has coaches who know more about olympic style weightlifting (and the squatting that goes along with it) than, yes, another claim coming, all the T-nations authors combined.
They’ve produced Olympian after Olympian. In fact, I’d say its arrogant to suggest she is doing them wrong. Asking why they are like that is a different story, but most of the people were trying to claim she was abusing form.[/quote]
320x10 is impressive especially for a woman, but I have been at a place where I could do that at times in my life. I know men much stronger than me that could easily do that. I’ve never met a non Oly lifting woman that could do that.
Just because someone is genetically gifted and has great coaches does not mean that they have perfect form.
Not taking anything away from her accomplishements, but many gifted athletes do a lot of things wrong, they can, plain and simple.
A lot of former Oly Lifters can barely walk when older, she might be one of them…
Think about it, no one is saying she is weak or pathetic, no one is even saying they are better, they are just saying her form is not perfect. Relax a little. She does not need anyone to stick up for her, she is quiet capable.
[quote]Free2Be wrote:
A lot of former Oly Lifters can barely walk when older, she might be one of them…
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Which ones?
Christ…what a thread. Remember the one where someone ragged on Ivan Chakarov’s depth?
In other news: PR attempt in slightly less than perfect form shocker! So her knees bowed in a little on a few reps? Who gives a shit? (Answer: the sort of people who like to follow their squat numbers with “haven’t maxed out recently because I hurt my back/vagina”).
[quote]Dr. Manhattan wrote:
daraz wrote:
Calm down there champ. “she is more of an expert at moving weights than you will be at anything” “I doubt anyone on this thread can do 320x10 for full squats” “This girl has done more squats in her life than all of the participants in this thread combined”
Her feat is great and all, but your little claims just don’t hold up. Besides, these guys have very legitimate concerns, and here you are riding a chick’s nuts going PC on everyone for having good intentions.
Don’t hold up?
Fact: She’s an Olympian in Olympic-style weightlifting
Claim: She is more of an expert at moving weights than most of you will ever be at anything.
Fact: Olympians are the top .0001% of the world in the sport they are in.
Fact: Very few people every get to be the top .0001% of the world in anything.
Claim: I doubt anyone on this board can full squat 320x10.
Fact: Few people actually full squat, most people barely hit parallel.
Fact: 320 full squat for 10 reps is good for medium-level men’s olympic lifters.
Fact: Medium level men’s lifters are better at full squatting than the grand majority of other people who go to the gym.
Claim: She has done more full squatting than the rest of this thread combined
Fact: Top level Olympic lifters squat between 4-6 times a week.
Fact: She has been lifting for years.
Fact: Most people don’t full squat (see above)
Actually, I think my claims are pretty well supported.
Further, the concerns people had were fairly myopic, considering that this woman has coaches who know more about olympic style weightlifting (and the squatting that goes along with it) than, yes, another claim coming, all the T-nations authors combined.
They’ve produced Olympian after Olympian. In fact, I’d say its arrogant to suggest she is doing them wrong. Asking why they are like that is a different story, but most of the people were trying to claim she was abusing form.[/quote]
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports.
She was an olympian in 2000, not 2004 or 2008. What’s the point of competing if you don’t want to compete? POSSIBLY if somebody would’ve fixed her squat in 2000, she would’ve won something by now. But Hey who care’s about advancing lets just brag that were stronger than people on the internet and never learn anything.
And Americans keep wondering why we digress in every sport.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports. [/quote]
You mean like the Chinese?
Yeah, that guy will never amount to anything in weightlifting either. Just look at his knees!
[quote]ninearms wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports.
You mean like the Chinese?
Yeah, that guy will never amount to anything in weightlifting either. Just look at his knees!
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Somewhat off topic but more men should squat shirtless. It’s a great look the way the bar can just sit on his traps like that.
By yeah, his form was way off. He’s going to hurt his knees ha
i think it would be only fair that if we’re squatting shirtless, the ladies should start squatting pantsless…just an idea
[quote]Free2Be wrote:
Just because someone is genetically gifted and has great coaches does not mean that they have perfect form.[/quote]
Bullshit on the genetics argument. Completely irrelevant.
And you admit she has great coaches, and great coaches should teach great form right?
So either she doesn’t have great coaches, or she doesn’t have great form?
[quote]brian.m wrote:
i think it would be only fair that if we’re squatting shirtless, the ladies should start squatting pantsless…just an idea[/quote]
I would settle for women squatting shirtless, and just to be safe they should have men spotting them on all squats. Zerchers with pink dumbells can get heavy
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports.
She was an olympian in 2000, not 2004 or 2008. What’s the point of competing if you don’t want to compete? POSSIBLY if somebody would’ve fixed her squat in 2000, she would’ve won something by now. But Hey who care’s about advancing lets just brag that were stronger than people on the internet and never learn anything.
And Americans keep wondering why we digress in every sport.[/quote]
Absolutely ridiculous.
Now the olympics isn’t enough to prove a training system works? You have to win a medal? And even then, can it be anything but gold??
Is failing to do so proof that the training and coaching she received is substandard?
Quite frankly, I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Free2Be wrote:
Just because someone is genetically gifted and has great coaches does not mean that they have perfect form.
Bullshit on the genetics argument. Completely irrelevant.
And you admit she has great coaches, and great coaches should teach great form right?
So either she doesn’t have great coaches, or she doesn’t have great form?
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So a great squat coach is a great sprint coach? or a great olympic weight lifting coach is a great squat coach? since of course all the olympic lifters break all squat records right?
hahaha, when you say it like that, it sounds even funnier then when i read it the first time - Not that anyone here should be at all suprised
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports.
She was an olympian in 2000, not 2004 or 2008. What’s the point of competing if you don’t want to compete? POSSIBLY if somebody would’ve fixed her squat in 2000, she would’ve won something by now. But Hey who care’s about advancing lets just brag that were stronger than people on the internet and never learn anything.
And Americans keep wondering why we digress in every sport.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Now the olympics isn’t enough to prove a training system works? You have to win a medal? And even then, can it be anything but gold??
Is failing to do so proof that the training and coaching she received is substandard?
Quite frankly, I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous.[/quote]
Actually that argument sounds pretty dumb to me. So your saying the same training system that got people to the olympics in 1908 is as good as the training system thats gets them to the olympics in 2008? They both worked right?
Why do you think people change coaches? so that they can do the same system?
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Hanley wrote:
Free2Be wrote:
Just because someone is genetically gifted and has great coaches does not mean that they have perfect form.
Bullshit on the genetics argument. Completely irrelevant.
And you admit she has great coaches, and great coaches should teach great form right?
So either she doesn’t have great coaches, or she doesn’t have great form?
So a great squat coach is a great sprint coach? or a great olympic weight lifting coach is a great squat coach? since of course all the olympic lifters break all squat records right?[/quote]
Are you suggesting that each assistance lift should have it’s own coach who’s an expert in that lift, but perhaps does not have any idea how it would fit into an integrated plan?
A press coach, snatch coach, front squat coach, clean coach, jerk coach, squat coach etc etc…??
Can you name any great squat coaches who might be able to help her?
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Hanley wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Hey let’s keep doing the same ole shit the same ole way. That way we can keep producing olympians that go to the olympics and still do the same ole weights from same old years ago before we decided to learn from someone who just happens to not be as strong as them. While the same ole other countries keep advancing their programs and adjusting their training so that they can continue to beat america in various sports.
She was an olympian in 2000, not 2004 or 2008. What’s the point of competing if you don’t want to compete? POSSIBLY if somebody would’ve fixed her squat in 2000, she would’ve won something by now. But Hey who care’s about advancing lets just brag that were stronger than people on the internet and never learn anything.
And Americans keep wondering why we digress in every sport.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Now the olympics isn’t enough to prove a training system works? You have to win a medal? And even then, can it be anything but gold??
Is failing to do so proof that the training and coaching she received is substandard?
Quite frankly, I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous.
Actually that argument sounds pretty dumb to me. So your saying the same training system that got people to the olympics in 1908 is as good as the training system thats gets them to the olympics in 2008? They both worked right?
Why do you think people change coaches? so that they can do the same system?[/quote]
That’s not what I’m saying.
1908 =/= 2008 because the relative standard has increased. And training programs and systems will obviously have changed to reflect that.
Her program now is clearly superior to that which was in place before assuming the standard of olympic competition is increasing year on year.
Does anyone now if she’s been hitting PR’s over the last 4o r 5 years?