[quote]crowdhater wrote:
In the end…your still pressing overhead more than most people can squat. Congratulations, and I hope you achieve all your goals for your next meet. [/quote]
yes but i still want to continue improving and go pro.
I cant see the videos, any youtube name for you?
I’m currently at 225lbs strict press @ 215/22lbs BW. I find overhead pressing to be more worthwhile than lying on your back and pressing it up. I do lots of different things, dumbbells being one main staple for now.
youtube “hunter poole strict press 305” there you can subscribe to my videos
Just seen it, you press almost the same as me. However I use a belt to protect my back, do you find your back more secure?
my back is very secure on all lifts because i go beltless so often
I have a question, a lot of the pro’s in strongman seem to just press the weight up right? (bend knees and then pop up and press the weight above head)…
Is this better? i live in nz and strongman is very small here. Everybody seems to jerk the weight and kinda like pop under it how Oly lifters press. How come pro strongman don’t use that tactic? is it easier to just bend knees > pop up and press or oly style?
[quote]mattypyuu wrote:
I have a question, a lot of the pro’s in strongman seem to just press the weight up right? (bend knees and then pop up and press the weight above head)…
Is this better? i live in nz and strongman is very small here. Everybody seems to jerk the weight and kinda like pop under it how Oly lifters press. How come pro strongman don’t use that tactic? is it easier to just bend knees > pop up and press or oly style? [/quote]
I’m not a pro strongman and haven’t asked any, but this is something I have wondered, too, so I figured I would share my thoughts. I think there are a couple factors:
–First, the jerk doesn’t really give you that much. Look at some of the best weightlifters. Vasiliy Alekseyev, possibly the best presser ever, had a clean and press of 236.5kg. His clean and jerk was 256kg. Dmitry Klokov has a youtube video push pressing 225kg and clean and jerk of 242kg. His best competition C&J is 232kg. And the jerk is highly technical while a push press is practically intuitive (although you still need to practice to do it well). The best olympic lifters who have put in thousands of hours perfecting their jerk technique get less than 10%.
Most people don’t have the time to put into perfecting their jerk technique. Even pro strongmen have so many other events to train that it may not be worth it. A jerk probably won’t help you on press for reps since it takes longer and drains more energy as you hold the load overhead and even on a press for max it’ll probably only help you get one more step, if you’re really good at jerking.
–Second, strongman overhead implements aren’t olympic bars. They’re harder to balance and don’t have rotating collars.
This isn’t to say that there aren’t successful strongmen who use a split jerk technique. Misha almost out-pressed Big-Z at WSM 2010 using a split jerk (But Big-Z still won with his push press which isn’t really even very pushy). Some lighter guys are using more of a split jerk technique from what I have seen.
I think part of the reality is that most people can’t jerk. That isn’t to say they can’t go through the motions. But in order to actually jerk, in my opinion, you have to be able to jerk more than you can push press. And that actually takes quite a bit of skill.
its harder than you think to press odd objects if you havent tried yet, try balancing a log, circus dumbell or anything other than barbell overhead and you realize you can go for stability and muscle it up or get real shakey using leg drive, i always try to bend my legs at least alittle but with a 12inch log its tough to do a split jerk, and it takes some like that russian strongman who did olympic lifting all his life to get the most out of it
The jerk is leg drive, the press is using no extra force created by your legs except for tension.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The jerk is leg drive, the press is using no extra force created by your legs except for tension. [/quote]
Not necessarily. There’s a good deal of difference between a jerk and a strict press.