Take a shot at your dreams, what kind of man doesn’t at least attempt? So much better then to have to ask “what ifs” your entire life.
Exactly. I happened to pick the one sport I know of in which there is a 100% injury rate at the elite levels, no money, no fame, and no notoriety for my passion. That sport is powerlifting.
I know I’m going to get injured sooner or later. I know I’m going to sink money into this and I know I’m going to never be famous for it. But I’m not going to quit, even if my body isn’t made for it.[/quote]
You said it perfectly! People have been asking me why PL why not bodybuild? I tell I am not in for glory, money. I like pizza too much and my kids always have some goody snack I can take from them; don’t have the discipline to get under 10% BF. Much respect to the bodybuilders who can. However, nobody is going to tell me what I can and can’t do. So if you want to shoot for 300 MF pounds go ahead and tell the haters to kiss your Azz.
Me personally, I PL just so you can drool the next time you see me squatting in the hole with 4-6 plates on each side clanking together; call egotistical or well. I enjoy PL, and networking with others who have better ideas or training strategies than I do.
[quote]optheta wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
goryo13 wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
hope you know a good pharmacist
LOL on that! ya might wanna consider an excellent doc too!
both of you…stop posting ignorant shit!
How is that post ignorant? I assume to compete at Mr. O level you need to be on some sort AAS, and to get to that sheer size you got to know the in’s and out’s of best and most efficient cycles for your body, if i am wrong then please prove it.[/quote]
From what I understand, using your post of course, you can submit lets say your typical Anime buff at your local Barnes & Noble to a cycle a Mr. Olympia competitor undertakes and the end result will yield another Mr. Olympia competitor? If that isn’t some ingnorant shit then I don’t know whats what
The point of this thread was to find people with similar goals. I also as stated in my post said, Cephalic_Carnage called me out to the 2012 O. It was a joke, because I will not be Olympia ready by 2012. That is just foolish.
The Olympia is my ultimate goal and that will never change. Right now I’m just trying to bulk up to as big as I can get. I’m not trying to do shows anytime soon because I want to do them when I know I will win.
Nobodies opinions about this subject will change my mind either. I will be what I want to be and nobody can stop me. I have my parents support, my friends support, and that’s all I need.
I’m sure every pro bodybuilder has had someone try to squash their dreams before. Look at how guys like Dorian or Flex Wheeler looked when they first started training. They were bean poles.
I’m sure they would’ve took more flack then me if they posted something like this, and Dorian turned out to be a 6 time Mr. Olympia, and Flex went on to be Mr. Olympia runner up a few times and deffinately one of the best bodybuilders of all time. Think about what would’ve happend if they gave up.
I’m not giving up. I’m 18 years old at 243pounds. I can probably make some drastic changes by the time I’m 28 years old…
[quote]trextacy wrote:
sluicy wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Anways, I think shooting for the O is a dumb goal.
In my opinion the only people who tell others they have dumb goals are the ones who have had it told them and believed it at some point in their lives. If you honestly believe that someone has an unrealistic goal, don’t think you are being “helpful” by trying to squash their enthusiasm.
Austen, there are few enough people with your focused drive and passion in life. Don’t lose it, even if your aspirations change over time.
I know conventional wisdom says that there are no “dumb goals”, but there are. Literally speaking, a goal that would suggest the maker of the goal does not have an appreciation or remotely realistic understanding of what it is they are doing is dumb.
And it doesn’t take “focused drive and passion” to make his post- just a T-Nation account. You don’t know anything about him as a person.
Also- yes, there are “dumb questions” too.
I would think that polly-annish naivete would be less welcome on a serious weightlifting site. Apparently, it’s “hardcore” to encourage others’ delusions.
Austin would be too big a pussy to say, for example, “That’s it, my goal is to add 25 lbs of lean mass and compete in my first comp within the next year!!!” That would be an aggressive enough goal as it is- stepping on stage with a chance of winning is a great accomplishment few here will ever achieve.
No, we have to start a thread saying he is going to get to over 300 lbs and compete in MR. FUCKING OLYMPIA…and some posters are giving him a “you go girl!” instead of thinking “hmmmmmmmm…this plan may be replete with fail.”
LOL.
[/quote]
If somebody’s goal in life was to earn as much money as Donald Trump do you tell them to first start out cutting grass for money and be content with the mediocrity or do you motivate them to try they hardest to earn more money than Trump?
sounds to me like your just a pussy. You see a goal that is probably unrealistic in your eyes and know that chances are you will fail so you run and hide. Well the difference between me and austin .vs. people like you is that we would rather set the standard high and strive for it. If in the end we reach nothing but failure then we can look back at our lives and realized we pursued our passion and so what we didn’t make it but we enjoyed every step we took while trying to achieve greatness even if it ended in failure. YOU on the other hand will spend your time trying to achieve goals that you know you can make and at the end will look back at life and think…‘what if?’
Austin’s goals may change throughout time, he may do 10 Amateur shows, not win one, never get a pro card, and never get the dream. But you know at the end he will be damn proud he tried and I guarantee you he will find a nich somewhere along the line because he tried. Or he might compete in his first show then win the USA then go beath Phil Heath for the O.
You’ll never know unless you try. You can go back to being a wallflower if you wish…
If you really want to go for it, fine. Just remember you’re going to need some serious pharmaceutical assistance to get in Mr Olympia.
But don’t bet the whole bank on being a pro bodybuilder. Only a few people make money in it, so make sure you have a life outside the gym.
Kevin
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
optheta wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
goryo13 wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
hope you know a good pharmacist
LOL on that! ya might wanna consider an excellent doc too!
both of you…stop posting ignorant shit!
How is that post ignorant? I assume to compete at Mr. O level you need to be on some sort AAS, and to get to that sheer size you got to know the in’s and out’s of best and most efficient cycles for your body, if i am wrong then please prove it.
From what I understand, using your post of course, you can submit lets say your typical Anime buff at your local Barnes & Noble to a cycle a Mr. Olympia competitor undertakes and the end result will yield another Mr. Olympia competitor? If that isn’t some ingnorant shit then I don’t know whats what[/quote]
I never said for a random uneducated person… GJ for putting words in my mouth
One other thing for those saying he shouldn’t use the “O” as his goal, but rather NPC Nationals, etc…
Who the fuck shots for the NFL Europe, Americain Hockey league or Double A Ball?
You set your dreams and ultimate goal at the top because nobody really cares what the side of Mt. Everest looks like.
Oh, Austin, I believe you also understand the usefulness of short term goals and have some, even if they aren’t listed here. So buddy, you can expect to be called out from time to time on your progress. 
[quote]kevsworld wrote:
If you really want to go for it, fine. Just remember you’re going to need some serious pharmaceutical assistance to get in Mr Olympia.
But don’t bet the whole bank on being a pro bodybuilder. Only a few people make money in it, so make sure you have a life outside the gym.
Kevin[/quote]
REALLY??!?!?!? what type of ‘serious’ pharmaceutical assistance??
Yes to be MR.O you will have to use performance enhancing drugs…but that doesn’t mean your going to be taking insane amounts of stuff.
I do agree in not banking on making money with it.
sorry for the initial attack but I’m trying to defend Austin from a lot of bozo’s trying to shit on his thread.
I guess unless you know some of the O competitors, other Pros, and big amateurs, like I do, and you know their drug use like I do…then don’t give too much advice on the topic.
I will tell you some of the O competitors use about as much gear as some of the avg gym rats…they just take it with gh/slin, and some insane dedication and genetics.
This will be the last time I mention drugs in this thread.
How the fuck are some of you reading the original post as: “I’m going to be Mr.O in 2012.”
I saw words like “fantasy”, and “inspirational rant” in there.
OP, good luck on getting to 300 lbs! Post some progress pics every now and again, and let us know when you are competing.
[quote]optheta wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
optheta wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
goryo13 wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
hope you know a good pharmacist
LOL on that! ya might wanna consider an excellent doc too!
both of you…stop posting ignorant shit!
How is that post ignorant? I assume to compete at Mr. O level you need to be on some sort AAS, and to get to that sheer size you got to know the in’s and out’s of best and most efficient cycles for your body, if i am wrong then please prove it.
From what I understand, using your post of course, you can submit lets say your typical Anime buff at your local Barnes & Noble to a cycle a Mr. Olympia competitor undertakes and the end result will yield another Mr. Olympia competitor? If that isn’t some ingnorant shit then I don’t know whats what
I never said for a random uneducated person… GJ for putting words in my mouth
[/quote]
But you did make AAS use the greatest factor in the equation
I think the main point of what trex is saying is “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket” which we can all agree on. Still go to school and get the finest education possible, have a backup plan, whatever.
However, he’s got that simple and good message bogged down with so much crap it’s unbelievable.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
trextacy wrote:
sluicy wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Anways, I think shooting for the O is a dumb goal.
In my opinion the only people who tell others they have dumb goals are the ones who have had it told them and believed it at some point in their lives. If you honestly believe that someone has an unrealistic goal, don’t think you are being “helpful” by trying to squash their enthusiasm.
Austen, there are few enough people with your focused drive and passion in life. Don’t lose it, even if your aspirations change over time.
I know conventional wisdom says that there are no “dumb goals”, but there are. Literally speaking, a goal that would suggest the maker of the goal does not have an appreciation or remotely realistic understanding of what it is they are doing is dumb.
And it doesn’t take “focused drive and passion” to make his post- just a T-Nation account. You don’t know anything about him as a person.
Also- yes, there are “dumb questions” too.
I would think that polly-annish naivete would be less welcome on a serious weightlifting site. Apparently, it’s “hardcore” to encourage others’ delusions.
Austin would be too big a pussy to say, for example, “That’s it, my goal is to add 25 lbs of lean mass and compete in my first comp within the next year!!!” That would be an aggressive enough goal as it is- stepping on stage with a chance of winning is a great accomplishment few here will ever achieve.
No, we have to start a thread saying he is going to get to over 300 lbs and compete in MR. FUCKING OLYMPIA…and some posters are giving him a “you go girl!” instead of thinking “hmmmmmmmm…this plan may be replete with fail.”
LOL.
If somebody’s goal in life was to earn as much money as Donald Trump do you tell them to first start out cutting grass for money and be content with the mediocrity or do you motivate them to try they hardest to earn more money than Trump?
sounds to me like your just a pussy. You see a goal that is probably unrealistic in your eyes and know that chances are you will fail so you run and hide. Well the difference between me and austin .vs. people like you is that we would rather set the standard high and strive for it. If in the end we reach nothing but failure then we can look back at our lives and realized we pursued our passion and so what we didn’t make it but we enjoyed every step we took while trying to achieve greatness even if it ended in failure. YOU on the other hand will spend your time trying to achieve goals that you know you can make and at the end will look back at life and think…‘what if?’
Austin’s goals may change throughout time, he may do 10 Amateur shows, not win one, never get a pro card, and never get the dream. But you know at the end he will be damn proud he tried and I guarantee you he will find a nich somewhere along the line because he tried. Or he might compete in his first show then win the USA then go beath Phil Heath for the O.
You’ll never know unless you try. You can go back to being a wallflower if you wish…
[/quote]
lol at you calling me a pussy, you fucking know-it-all. you STILL haven’t bothered to actually read my posts.
I stated a solid (and ambitious) goal in my last post, hardly the lawn mowing analogy you described.
there is nothing wrong with giving an 18 year old who declares he is going to compete in the Mr. O advice that he may want to set lofty, but more attainable near-term goals first.
there is nothing wrong with making sure someone (esp. a teenager) is well aware of the sacrifices their chosen path my entail before they begin.
there is NOTHING inaccurate about noting that drugs and more importantly GENETICS (i.e. things outside of you control) will determine how successful you are AT THIS PARTICULAR GOAL.
I don’t “run and hide” at goals, nor am I content with mediocrity in any way, shape or form. It seems to me everyone knows there is a less than .01% chance of Austin stepping on stage at the O, but justify it anyways because the journey will be great/rewarding. You can enjoy the journey without setting bullshit goals for yourself, and I would suggest that set yourself up for some extreme behaviour and unhealthiness in the process. After all, he’s now “on record” as stating his goal.
By the way, if Mr. O= “being the best”, then why isn’t that your goal, or Prof X’s goal, etc.? It’s because that particular path chooses you…you don’t just eat and lift more than everyone else and get it.
The bottom line is this- ANYONE can go on a message board and type out a ridiculous claim. All I’m doing is trying to provide a little perspective and advice to an 18 year old. If austin were 25+ and posted this I would’ve just lol’d and moved on.
[quote]SergeantQ wrote:
Exactly. I happened to pick the one sport I know of in which there is a 100% injury rate at the elite levels, no money, no fame, and no notoriety for my passion. That sport is powerlifting.
I know I’m going to get injured sooner or later. I know I’m going to sink money into this and I know I’m going to never be famous for it. But I’m not going to quit, even if my body isn’t made for it.
You said it perfectly! People have been asking me why PL why not bodybuild? I tell I am not in for glory, money. I like pizza too much and my kids always have some goody snack I can take from them; don’t have the discipline to get under 10% BF. Much respect to the bodybuilders who can. However, nobody is going to tell me what I can and can’t do. So if you want to shoot for 300 MF pounds go ahead and tell the haters to kiss your Azz.
Me personally, I PL just so you can drool the next time you see me squatting in the hole with 4-6 plates on each side clanking together; call egotistical or well. I enjoy PL, and networking with others who have better ideas or training strategies than I do.[/quote]
My world in a nutshell except for the kids.
Hey Austin do what makes you happy!
P.S. Eat, Eat, Eat, Lift, Eat, Eat, Eat Sleep
Set up a formal diet log on your page and keep track of your calories so you can be a big muthafuka, and prove all the haters wrong.
[quote]kevsworld wrote:
If you really want to go for it, fine. Just remember you’re going to need some serious pharmaceutical assistance to get in Mr Olympia.
But don’t bet the whole bank on being a pro bodybuilder. Only a few people make money in it, so make sure you have a life outside the gym.
Kevin[/quote]
FUCK! I agree with not blindly banking on making Jay Cutler kinda of money but I completely and strongly will attack you on your comment regarding AAS usage. Yes, it is a factor in the equation but it isn’t the sole determining factor on whether you make it or not. Exactly what position do you hold or experience do you posses that allows you to make such a call?
To austen_bicep:
I just skipped past the last page of discouraging/encouraging text after reading the first few.
I think you’re smart for expressing your goals so publicly, and hope that any discouragement will only fuel your drive to accomplish what you set out to do.
Maybe it would be helpful to break down your goal into several shorter term plans and write those here as well?
[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
One other thing for those saying he shouldn’t use the “O” as his goal, but rather NPC Nationals, etc…
Who the fuck shots for the NFL Europe, Americain Hockey league or Double A Ball?
You set your dreams and ultimate goal at the top because nobody really cares what the side of Mt. Everest looks like.
Oh, Austin, I believe you also understand the usefulness of short term goals and have some, even if they aren’t listed here. So buddy, you can expect to be called out from time to time on your progress. :)[/quote]
Wow. Yes, you do shoot for the NPC or something of that level before the Olympia. There are people who look FANTASTIC who have never won an NPC contest because of the competition. Why would you shoot beyond that before you prove you can win that level?
Mind you, this is coming from someone who has actually weighed 300lbs (although not contest shape) so I am not sure how you are taking that as some kind of knock against his goals. I am pretty sure some of us replying have goals that would be considered “extreme” and many tried to tell me what I couldn’t do. Whether I compete or not will depend on if I have a chance of WINNING and not “just for the experience”.
If you haven’t even won a local contest, you do that first before you plan to win the Olympia.
[quote]trextacy wrote:
lol at you calling me a pussy, you fucking know-it-all. you STILL haven’t bothered to actually read my posts.[/quote]
I never called you a pussy, I said you sound like one. I have read your posts. [quote]
I stated a solid (and ambitious) goal in my last post, hardly the lawn mowing analogy you described.
there is nothing wrong with giving an 18 year old who declares he is going to compete in the Mr. O advice that he may want to set lofty, but more attainable near-term goals first.
there is nothing wrong with making sure someone (esp. a teenager) is well aware of the sacrifices their chosen path my entail before they begin.
there is NOTHING inaccurate about noting that drugs and more importantly GENETICS (i.e. things outside of you control) will determine how successful you are AT THIS PARTICULAR GOAL.
I don’t “run and hide” at goals, nor am I content with mediocrity in any way, shape or form. It seems to me everyone knows there is a less than .01% chance of Austin stepping on stage at the O, but justify it anyways because the journey will be great/rewarding. You can enjoy the journey without setting bullshit goals for yourself, and I would suggest that set yourself up for some extreme behaviour and unhealthiness in the process. After all, he’s now “on record” as stating his goal.
By the way, if Mr. O= “being the best”, then why isn’t that your goal, or Prof X’s goal, etc.? It’s because that particular path chooses you…you don’t just eat and lift more than everyone else and get it.
The bottom line is this- ANYONE can go on a message board and type out a ridiculous claim. All I’m doing is trying to provide a little perspective and advice to an 18 year old. If austin were 25+ and posted this I would’ve just lol’d and moved on.[/quote]
I do plan on being Mr.O someday and feel that the only thing stopping me is time. I’m young, genetically gifted, have the drive, and the knowledge. I do want to be the best a what I do…in everything that I do. Call it what you will but I’m just a competitive person.
unless you personally know austin how do you know his chances of becoming mr. O? what if he is some genetic freak. I mean the kid is 18yrs old with 17+ in arms and weighing in the 240s?
to me it sounds like you are attacking him instead of giving advice. And yes I read all of your posts on this thread and they all came out that way. It could be the ambiguity of the keyboard or your just not too great at conveying your thoughts online.
regaurdless, unless your an ex pro bodybuilder, I don’t think you have any right to give austin advice on becoming a pro bodybuilder. Do you even compete?
if in fact like ‘lanky mofo’ said your just telling him not to put his eggs in one basket…well you could have made things a lot more simple.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
One other thing for those saying he shouldn’t use the “O” as his goal, but rather NPC Nationals, etc…
Who the fuck shots for the NFL Europe, Americain Hockey league or Double A Ball?
You set your dreams and ultimate goal at the top because nobody really cares what the side of Mt. Everest looks like.
Oh, Austin, I believe you also understand the usefulness of short term goals and have some, even if they aren’t listed here. So buddy, you can expect to be called out from time to time on your progress.
Wow. Yes, you do shoot for the NPC or something of that level before the Olympia. There are people who look FANTASTIC who have never won an NPC contest because of the competition. Why would you shoot beyond that before you prove you can win that level?
Mind you, this is coming from someone who has actually weighed 300lbs (although not contest shape) so I am not sure how you are taking that as some kind of knock against his goals. I am pretty sure some of us replying have goals that would be considered “extreme” and many tried to tell me what I couldn’t do. Whether I compete or not will depend on if I have a chance of WINNING and not “just for the experience”.
If you haven’t even won a local contest, you do that first before you plan to win the Olympia.[/quote]
I’ve basically said that twice in here. Of course nobody goes straight to the Olympia. It’s a process, you need to win you rpro card, do qualifying shows etc. etc.
Ronnie Coleman was in his 30’s when he became Mr. Olympia…
I’m taking thing one step at a time and was just stating my ultimate goal.
Thank You to the people who were encouraging especially Gerdy. Hopefully we’ll see eachother on the stage one day.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
One other thing for those saying he shouldn’t use the “O” as his goal, but rather NPC Nationals, etc…
Who the fuck shots for the NFL Europe, Americain Hockey league or Double A Ball?
You set your dreams and ultimate goal at the top because nobody really cares what the side of Mt. Everest looks like.
Oh, Austin, I believe you also understand the usefulness of short term goals and have some, even if they aren’t listed here. So buddy, you can expect to be called out from time to time on your progress.
Wow. Yes, you do shoot for the NPC or something of that level before the Olympia. There are people who look FANTASTIC who have never won an NPC contest because of the competition. Why would you shoot beyond that before you prove you can win that level?
Mind you, this is coming from someone who has actually weighed 300lbs (although not contest shape) so I am not sure how you are taking that as some kind of knock against his goals. I am pretty sure some of us replying have goals that would be considered “extreme” and many tried to tell me what I couldn’t do. Whether I compete or not will depend on if I have a chance of WINNING and not “just for the experience”.
If you haven’t even won a local contest, you do that first before you plan to win the Olympia.
I’ve basically said that twice in here. Of course nobody goes straight to the Olympia. It’s a process, you need to win you rpro card, do qualifying shows etc. etc.
Ronnie Coleman was in his 30’s when he became Mr. Olympia…
I’m taking thing one step at a time and was just stating my ultimate goal.
Thank You to the people who were encouraging especially Gerdy. Hopefully we’ll see eachother on the stage one day.[/quote]
for sure dood lol but you better hope you beat me to the O because once I get there it’s mine and I won’t let it go until I retire 
LOL