3 Month Progress

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
Now that you actually got some good lighting and decent posing going on looks alot better. How long have you been training?

That’s a big goal for me is getting upto 230+ especially at my height. Good job keep it up shit only inspires me. [/quote]

Thanks!

I still need a lot of work, though! Which is why I am here, seeing what I need to work on most so I can focus on that. I mean I know what I need to work on for the most part but it is easy to overlook things when you are judging yourself.

I have been training a little over 2.5 years now. Did some weight lifting for martial arts but it was never too serious, actually when I look back it was pathetic lol.

Front and Back shots look solid. I’d wait a bit before the side shots, I think you need a tighter waist to pull 'em off, or at least a more defined tricep/shoulder area. Overall, not bad. Curious to see how the progress actually goes (the 1st two shots were pretty much useless to comment on)

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Front and Back shots look solid. I’d wait a bit before the side shots, I think you need a tighter waist to pull 'em off, or at least a more defined tricep/shoulder area. Overall, not bad. Curious to see how the progress actually goes (the 1st two shots were pretty much useless to comment on)

S
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You definately pull off the side tri Stu! I can’t imagine being able to reach around like that for a side tricep pose. I can barely lock my hands together.

About my leg training as meantioned earlier. I am able to do heavy leg press and have been doing heal presses on them for my hamstrings as well as lying and standing leg curls. My main problem is the herniated disk and not allowing me to do other excerices like stiff legged dead lifts.

Any suggestions on anything I can do for more direct hamstring training would be much appreciated!

Damn that sucks bro herniated disk ahhh. Well honestly it seems you answered your own question on the direct hamstring training.

The sumo leg presses you’re doing are probably the best idea. Followed by Seated, lying and standing leg curls. You can also try these dumbbell leg curls.

I’ve read and seen lots of guys (some who have competed and won shows) with your problem and they had no problem getting nice hammies without doing stiff legged deadlifts.

Example of them dumbbell leg curls.

How about trying the DC shoulder stretch for your poor flexibility?

[quote]juice82 wrote:
Here is a most muscular as asked.

I do have a hard time squeezing on the side tri, not a lot of flexibility in my upper half lol.

I should have named this thread Criticism rather than 3 month progress lol, as criticism is really what I am looking for.

Thanks for the input guys[/quote]

Yeah man the same happens to me. I could squeeze better two years ago, I think the best solution is to practice the poses.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

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I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

[quote]humanimal wrote:
How about trying the DC shoulder stretch for your poor flexibility?
DC Training Shoulder Stretch - YouTube [/quote]

hahaha I love the shout out he gives at the end!

[quote]G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

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I wonder this myself, I feel like I look about 230-235lbs, but the scale says otherwise.

To answer Prof X’s question the scale I am going by is at the dr. office. I got bloodwork done 2 weeks ago and I was 254 lbs at the time. Maybe their scale was off 20lbs, I do not know.

[quote]G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

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It is genetic but you usually don’t see variances that great. I see guys on here claiming they are the same height as me or shorter at 210lbs and they looks WAY less developed than I did at the same weight years ago. It seems like this site attracts tons of guys with a heavier bone structure.

The reality is, if that is truly the case, then that should distance people from the ideas of some of these authors even more considering many here would have to weigh in excess of 230-250lbs to even look developed at all.

You don’t get that big by fearing body fat to some extreme degree or acting like you have the option of “gaining slowly”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

It is genetic but you usually don’t see variances that great. I see guys on here claiming they are the same height as me or shorter at 210lbs and they looks WAY less developed than I did at the same weight years ago. It seems like this site attracts tons of guys with a heavier bone structure.

The reality is, if that is truly the case, then that should distance people from the ideas of some of these authors even more considering many here would have to weigh in excess of 230-250lbs to even look developed at all.

You don’t get that big by fearing body fat to some extreme degree or acting like you have the option of “gaining slowly”.[/quote]

This is true. And I will welcome more bodyfat if it means more mass.

As for my bodyweight, I have no reason to lie about it. What would I gain by doing that? As it is now no one believes me and that is fine, I myself admit I do not look what I weigh, but I will keep making gains and hopefully someday represent with my physique what the scale says.

If I were to show you pics of me when I was 185 lbs 3 years ago you wouldn’t think I looked that weight either. And I was competing in martial arts at the time and stepping on the same scale as everyone else.

I think bone density and and a persons frame (clavicle width, waist size etc.) have a lot to do with making people appear heavier or lighter than their actual weight.

[quote]juice82 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

It is genetic but you usually don’t see variances that great. I see guys on here claiming they are the same height as me or shorter at 210lbs and they looks WAY less developed than I did at the same weight years ago. It seems like this site attracts tons of guys with a heavier bone structure.

The reality is, if that is truly the case, then that should distance people from the ideas of some of these authors even more considering many here would have to weigh in excess of 230-250lbs to even look developed at all.

You don’t get that big by fearing body fat to some extreme degree or acting like you have the option of “gaining slowly”.

This is true. And I will welcome more bodyfat if it means more mass.

As for my bodyweight, I have no reason to lie about it. What would I gain by doing that? As it is now no one believes me and that is fine, I myself admit I do not look what I weigh, but I will keep making gains and hopefully someday represent with my physique what the scale says.

If I were to show you pics of me when I was 185 lbs 3 years ago you wouldn’t think I looked that weight either. And I was competing in martial arts at the time and stepping on the same scale as everyone else.

I think bone density and and a persons frame (clavicle width, waist size etc.) have a lot to do with making people appear heavier or lighter than their actual weight.[/quote]

I am not losing any sleep about how much you said you weigh. If you are 250lbs, cool. You simply do not look it.

I’m 236, but look like I’m about 210-220 tops. It’s because I’m 6’2", 6’3". I mean, there are lots of illusions. Anyways, getting back to the actual post, chest and bis especially need help. I’m in the same boat. Direct bis work really hasn’t done a ton for me and my chest is dismal, practically nonexistant. But you look like you have way more potential, keep beasting it

[quote]Professor X wrote:
juice82 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
G87 wrote:
Weird, I never would’ve guessed you’re 250+ at 5-11.

I’ve seen that a lot on this site…and on this site ONLY. These guys are either taller than they think they are, their scales are all off by about 20lbs or more, or they had adamantium attached to their skeleton at birth.

To the OP, I am not making fun of your progress. You do look like you lift but you don’t look like 250lbs at 5’11".

You need to work on your upper body entirely. For someone claiming those stats, your arms, chest, shoulders and even back from what I can see are way too small.

What scale are you using?

I wonder how much this depends on genetics. I was checking out a pic of Brandon Curry when he was 170 lbs, and he’s 5’7". He looked way bigger than I do, at what I think is an approximately equal LBM-height ratio. Maybe I’ll look bigger as I diet down, but man, that guy really did look great for that weight.

My £.02

It is genetic but you usually don’t see variances that great. I see guys on here claiming they are the same height as me or shorter at 210lbs and they looks WAY less developed than I did at the same weight years ago. It seems like this site attracts tons of guys with a heavier bone structure.

The reality is, if that is truly the case, then that should distance people from the ideas of some of these authors even more considering many here would have to weigh in excess of 230-250lbs to even look developed at all.

You don’t get that big by fearing body fat to some extreme degree or acting like you have the option of “gaining slowly”.

This is true. And I will welcome more bodyfat if it means more mass.

As for my bodyweight, I have no reason to lie about it. What would I gain by doing that? As it is now no one believes me and that is fine, I myself admit I do not look what I weigh, but I will keep making gains and hopefully someday represent with my physique what the scale says.

If I were to show you pics of me when I was 185 lbs 3 years ago you wouldn’t think I looked that weight either. And I was competing in martial arts at the time and stepping on the same scale as everyone else.

I think bone density and and a persons frame (clavicle width, waist size etc.) have a lot to do with making people appear heavier or lighter than their actual weight.

I am not losing any sleep about how much you said you weigh. If you are 250lbs, cool. You simply do not look it.[/quote]

Haha I never suggested you were. I agree with you that I do not look it. Just means to look 250 i’ll have to weigh 270, oh well!

Anyways I was looking for some critique on my physique and many have responded and gave some postitive feedback on my weakest areas, although I consider them all weak. Thanks to those who took the time to help out.

[quote]juice82 wrote:
I agree with you that I do not look it. Just means to look 250 i’ll have to weigh 270, oh well![/quote]

I’m in the same boat as you in that regards, my friend, so no worries.

Good luck working on the side tri, too… I think it’s one of the coolest poses out there when pulled off correctly by a developed individual.

Actually I read a long ago that bone density/weight doesnt really create such huge difference between body composition appearence and weight ratio. Skeletal weight doesnt play big difference.
I think that tendon insertions and bone size does. Not sure though either.

[quote]testosteroniak wrote:
Actually I read a long ago that bone density/weight doesnt really create such huge difference between body composition appearence and weight ratio. Skeletal weight doesnt play big difference.
I think that tendon insertions and bone size does. Not sure though either.[/quote]

I am not sure, I have never really looked into it to be honest. I really do not care what I weigh as long as I can keep improving by getting bigger and stronger I am happy. In the short time I have been at this I have made some pretty good gains but I am far from being where I want to be. I’ll actually never be happy, I’ll always want to improve.

It’s actually nice having people doubt you, it’s a sweet feeling when you prove them wrong.

[quote]juice82 wrote:
testosteroniak wrote:
Actually I read a long ago that bone density/weight doesnt really create such huge difference between body composition appearence and weight ratio. Skeletal weight doesnt play big difference.
I think that tendon insertions and bone size does. Not sure though either.

I am not sure, I have never really looked into it to be honest. I really do not care what I weigh as long as I can keep improving by getting bigger and stronger I am happy. In the short time I have been at this I have made some pretty good gains but I am far from being where I want to be. I’ll actually never be happy, I’ll always want to improve.

It’s actually nice having people doubt you, it’s a sweet feeling when you prove them wrong.[/quote]

Agree, that is good attitude, to improve.

ep maby u got heavy bone structure…I think Ive got it lol,I weigh 196lbs,But i dont think I look like 196lbs…