I’m 29 years old and 262 pounds as of today. I started lifting weights about 8 months ago and when I first started I was 278 pounds and lost weight to be 249 pounds. I then started lifting weights to hopefully gain the weight back in muscle, which I am now 262 pounds. I am satisfied with my progress but I feel I need to “hurry” my physique. A friend of mine is using roids and he is seeing a lot of results so this is what made me think of doing it. He is using testosterone cypionate and trenbolone acetate. Yes I am a newbie at all these terms so bear with me. I am thinking about using the same as him, I already bought the product just looking into it a little bit more before I pull the trigger. Any advice or suggestions for me to use/do? He said to do 1cc of each every 3 days is this accurate?
Advice? Yes…you said you already bought the stuff so the best advice would be WHOA!! Put your brakes on!!
First, before you even think about pinning, you need blood work to see where your levels are at.
1cc of each is a volume not a dose. It would depend on the test concentration as to what volume you should inject. Again, the dose would be best determined after blood work. Don’t be that dumbass that jumps on a train and has no idea where it’s going. Slow down. Get some testing done. Take a while to learn a bit. Kick your feet up in this and the TRT forum for a while and read read read!
Like bmbrady said, research research research, and when you think you’ve got a handle on it…research some more. You’re 29, which is not necessarily young to be cycling, but is pretty young if you do something wrong and screw up your HPTA. Having to do test injections for the rest of your life just to function normally starting at 29 is a long damn time.
8 months… You have scratched the surface of strength training my friend. Put a few years in the grind and rethink. Also, the only real advice I will give you, don’t run tren on your first cycle. Test only.
I think it is great that you are doing something about you physique. Loosing 30 lbs of fat is significant. Gaining over ten pounds of muscle is significant. You are obviously doing something right but looking to steroids this early and with the intention of moving things along quicker is just flawed.
First NEVER NEVER NEVER use trenbolone in any form until you have had numerous cycles and multiple experiences with multiple compounds. It should always be the last AAS you decide to try and use for your goals. Tren is steroids on steroids. It is it’s own animal that requires it’s own set of supplemental compounds to handle the side effects.
Your first few cycles should be test only then add in one new one at a time as you progress. If you start with a stack and you have side effects you don’t know which one is causing what.
You want to move things along quicker, we all do. Without knowing your height I can still say you are dealing with a healthy amount of excess fatt. (Unless you are 6’8 or something close) You need to be at a healthy weight for your size before you ever cycle.
I think you should look at supplements first. Maybe a pre-workout NO support matrix. One of the big selling points of steroids is nitrogen retention, the NO support stuff helps you have as much as your body can use so you can get the most out of your workout.
You really need to be really close to your genetic potential before using steroids. If you are not close then you just waist money building something the expensive way when you could build it naturally.
At the very least you need more experience building muscle before you can even properly take advantage of a cycle.
Please wait
If you do decide to cycle anyways there is a whole world of steroid knowledge you need to be aware of. You can easily mess up and end up growing bitch tits with the excess estrogen you will have from a cycle. And guess what the more body fat you have the more estrogen you will make on a cycle. Go click on my name and go read through my comments on other threads. I usually comment on these type of threads so go back as far as you can. There is a lot of information in my comments not to mention the other comments in the threads.
You are not ready for a cycle if you do not know about aromatase inhibitors (stops estrogen from being produced), SERMs (blocks estrogen ), PCT (how you recover from a cycle), esters, half lives, timing and the list goes on. Plus you just have to much genetic potential to capitalize on before steroids are NEEDED for the next level. You should only think about steroids if they are NEEDED for the next level of development.
OP - Please listen to the above. I’ll put it down from a different angle so as to give you some more to think about. On average you are looking at 2-4 years of consistent, perfect training to hit your genetic ceiling. It’s only at that point you need to consider AAS. So know that you aren’t even halfway there yet.
Use the above time to read and learn everything you can. Find a forum a stick to it. Read the stickies that are on that forum. In the realm of AAS and self medication, take note of the “SELF”. You are your own doc, and thus must be knowledgeable of yourself and your medications.
If you want more motivation to stay the course…just put all the money you’ll save aside in an investment. A few years from now, it will be a larger fund you can pull from to start/begin your experiments.
Wait a second how tall are you? im getting the impression that you are carrying way to much weight and your inexperienced.
Thanks everyone for their input. I am 6 feet tall and i don’t feel 262 pounds, I feel I’m heavy because of genetics and also if I upload a picture of myself you guys wouldn’t believe I’m that heavy. I’m pretty active at 29 I play in a basketball league 3 days a week, not that it matters but to give you an idea of my athleticism I can grab the rim to a regulation basketball hoop. I want to change my appearance to feel more comfortable without my shirt on. I’ll read up on this subject more but it’s not like I’ve never been active or I haven’t lifted weights before just thought it would be a good idea just based on the results my friend is getting.
listen to everyone else, read, learn, train for years first. You are not ready for AAS
If you take nothing else away from what the people are telling you at least know this: tren on a first cycle is probably the dumbest thing you can do to yourself in the world of anabolics.
Testosterone is a well maintained Porsche 911. It’s plenty of car for almost everyone. Tren is an open wheel dragster that your meth-addicted neighbor built out of parts he found in the hull of a sunken Spanish galleon from 1708.
LOL thanks! I appreciate everyone’s honesty I really do. So what Testosterone do you guys recommend? Or what about SARMS? I want some change for sure so I want to do some type of enhancement. I’ve been doing pre-workout, Protein, BCAA’s, and started to use creatine about 30 days now.
I am not trying to be an asshole, but no one is recommending you take any sort of AAS’s. You stated you have only been working out for 8 months. You haven’t even began to reach your natural potential. You have stated that you are 6ft yet weigh 262 pounds. You are about 40-50 pounds over weight. You starting Test now is going to convert to Estrogen at a higher rate than if you lost weight then started Test. You will end up with High E2 then try to combat it with some sort of AI which you will probably tank your E2 and feel worse than you did to begin with. Then you will suffer from ED, ‘limp noodle’. That will lead to 3-4 weeks of trying to get back to a healthy E2 level.
This is a marathon, not a sprint. Gently slam on them brakes. Give it a year or 2, what can that hurt? What if you start doing Test then totally fuck up your natural production? Then you are stuck for life pinning.
First Step would to be to get COMPLETE lab work done to see everything going on.