21 Years Old, 6'2", 178 Pounds. First Cycle, Test + Var

Hello guys I am running my first 2 month cycle my appearance,

Height 190 cm

Weight 81kg

Age 21

Cycle

(Test enanthate 250 Monday, 250 Friday And Anavar, 30 mg the last 4 weeks

Hcg 250 IU 1 time per week

PCT 2/3 weeks after the last dose of testo

nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20

including hcg 250 ui

How about, I would like some advice on dosages, and on the use of aromas during the cycle and pct

I would like to avoid losing sexual desire if possible

Too short

Too young.

Way too much Clomid. Unnecessary to use both, Nolva alone is fine.

0mg/w until you’re 25.

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At your age and height, you should be able to hit 200 lbs pretty easily without the assistance of anabolics.

Otherwise I agree 100% with @iron_yuppie

Learn how to eat to gain. Food and sleep are MUCH more anabolic than these exogenous hormones

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You are fairly young to be starting AAS’s.
Without seeing you, to make an opinion on your potential to make the risk somewhat reasonable, I would never suggest anyone using AAS’s.

So, to better assess your potential:

  • How many pullups can you do? It should be close to 20 reps.
  • How many reps can you squat 355 lbs?
  • How many reps can you deadlift 355 lbs?
  • How many reps can you bench press 265 lbs?
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330 lbs squat
242 lbs bench press
pull up 20

Are these both maximum single reps?

How many years have you been lifting weights?

yes, I have been training for 3 years

If the above is true, I would suggest attaining a better (stronger) foundation naturally before venturing into the pharma world.

Just throwing out a goal, I’d say be able to do those lifts for at least 3 reps for all three lifts, before giving any thought to using AAS’s.
If you gain weight the exercise poundage increases proportionally:

  • Squat 2 times your bodyweight
  • Deadlift 2 times your bodyweight
  • Bench Press 1.5 times your bodyweight
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I would say just total at least 6X your body weight, which is a bit more than your guideline which adds up to 5.5X. The reason I say this is some people suck at certain lifts. I know a dude that can deadlift 3X bodyweight, but can’t do 1.5X on the bench (just not really built for it). He totals over the 6X body weight though. He is natty, but I don’t think he would be unqualified to use AAS based on where he is at training wise.

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Fair enough.
But I would like to see some upper body arm strength.
I do know that each of these powerlifts has a component of skeletal leverage.

I believe AAS’s is much less a factor in improving the deadlift than the other two lifts.

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but still the cycle will start in 1/2 weeks, so I will continue to inform me non-stop … before it falls

Thanks for being honest about doing it anyways, but I find it incredibly annoying when people come on here asking for help and ignore all advice. This is why people are usually shitty to noobs.

good luck

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I just wanted some advice on how to dose the products. not at what age to start

I agree with this. My bench has always lagged, squat and deadlift are just fine for bodyweight. My maxes have been around 2.8 - 3x BW, but I could barely do 1.5 BW bench. All other isolation exercises for upper body I’m very strong at. Bench, hate it but I do it. As we’ve talked about before, some people just are build with better mechanical advantages or there wouldn’t be certain people that were elite. I have short femurs and long torso, great for squats and deadlifts.

“I’m ignoring your advice about doing this because I know better than all of you, but also I need advice from all of you about what dose to take” is some absolute galaxy brain shit.

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Usually a long torso is poor for deadlifts. Lamar Gant was a deadlift king because of scoliosis making his back about 4" shorter than it should have been. He naturally had long arms. His lockout was just above the kneecap. I am guessing you just have strong legs and back, and that is good for deadlifting. I have a long torso, and making my back really strong has yielded improvements.

I’ll leave out age, since that seems to be a trigger. You don’t know how to train and eat sufficiently yet. You will put on muscle on cycle, but since you don’t know how to train, you will be renting those gains. You are at least 20 lbs too small to cycle.

If you do this, do your blood work before hand. Do you have that? You will be questioning if you recovered, and having data is important here.

Do you have any hair loss? Probably not, but if you do at your age, you will probably be shaving your head after a cycle. Something to keep in mind. Not all AAS effects are positive. I wouldn’t want to be 21 and bald.

I never mentioned your age, in fact only one person did, and that wasn’t even the basis of his argument. What you did is you came in here because you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, hoping someone would spoon feed you information.

I did mention that you clearly don’t know how to eat, which tells me you probably also don’t understand the importance of sleep or recovery, and likely training as well.

You were just looking for confirmation bias, not advice. Any good forum worth a shit will tell you the same things we are.

To each their own, I don’t care what you do with your body, but know that you have been given some good info. Do with it what you will

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You already have your dosing set up. What advice do you need regarding that?

I’m guessing bloodwork to see where e2 gets or impact on lipids isn’t an option either?

you are judging me only because I have not written so much information about my lifestyle, my diet and how I train. also I do not hope that some person like you will give me directions on how to inject me, I just wanted advice that’s all, I am aware of all the side effects that these substances bring