[quote]Tshep26 wrote:
Thanks again guys.
and lankymofo i will start posting more here usually i just lurk in the background but id like to get involved nice “meeting” you guys!
Lol prof
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Good to hear, we can definitely use more members that have already built some impressive size. Glad to have you man!
Can we petition for a General forum? So the BODYBUILDING forum will stop being considered the Default/General forums.
BTW: You guys are freakin’ beast mode. Most definitely an inspiration. Keep it up!
[quote]ill wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.
People have different goals in here. The fact that I have a different physique goal then you have is not underachieving. In fact it’s quite the contrary. It’s fine you have some super hero comic book fantasy of getting huge, probably due to either small dick size, lack of motherly nurturing or some other psychological reason besides pure obsession.
I see no reason why I would like to: A) Eat 400 grams protein per day, B) Take steroids C) Spend such a huge part of my life on training as well as money, just to go around being big and thinking others are in awe of you constantly. Even if I had a desire of being so big, I wouldn’t want to follow those steps, so call it what you want, I have no problem with who I am despite what you think.
Grammatical errors are free, English is my 4th language. [/quote]
Very well put, very articulate. Incorporating bodybuilding FOR A PURPOSE is an intelligent and rational pursuit. Wolfing down 400 g/ed of protein, eating two steaks per day, and importing ‘goods’ from Mexico, all for the purpose of having others marvel at what a freak you are – pathetic. Such individuals have tiny egos, with a dash of paranoia.
Social metaphysics, getting your meaning in life from the ‘mirror’ of other peoples’ minds, is at the core of bodybuilding-for-show.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
WHY - ARE - YOU - ON - A - BODYBUILDING - FORUM???
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x2, this is exactly what I was going to write. High-school mentality, I guess; he feels better about himself putting down people that are better than him, and ridiculing the bodybuilding goals that he set for himself and now knows he will never obtain.
[quote]ill wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.
People have different goals in here. The fact that I have a different physique goal then you have is not underachieving. In fact it’s quite the contrary. It’s fine you have some super hero comic book fantasy of getting huge, probably due to either small dick size, lack of motherly nurturing or some other psychological reason besides pure obsession.
I see no reason why I would like to: A) Eat 400 grams protein per day, B) Take steroids C) Spend such a huge part of my life on training as well as money, just to go around being big and thinking others are in awe of you constantly. Even if I had a desire of being so big, I wouldn’t want to follow those steps, so call it what you want, I have no problem with who I am despite what you think.
Grammatical errors are free, English is my 4th language. [/quote]
First of all, I can’t believe you are even thinking about another man’s dick and you should never talk about someone’s mother. These are probaly universal ideas all over the world. Second, Even if you disagree with someone’s post or progress, then the most you should do is give constructive advice, not some bullshit that you dam sure would not say to the face of Tshep26 ( big guns dude). So I think you have disgraced your mother and yourself and probaly should start over on a new profile with a much more mature attitude.
P.S. I stll want to see a pic of your muscular arms to compare to Tshep26.
I have not read every post here so pardon if this is a repeat - is that cold or pumped? Its damn big either way - just wondering because i just taped my arms cold and I am embarrassed (and I am one of the bigger guys at the gym I go to)hahahaha
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have fun lashing out from behind your computer screen. Let me tell you…walking around looking like this IS fun. The pros outweigh the cons to an astronomical degree and everyone bigger than you is not on drugs.
So, continue. Call everyone bigger than you fat or “blubbery”. Tell them they ALL have small dicks and mother problems. You have to sleep well at night…and I sure as hell don’t want to ruin your beauty sleep.
Oh, my dick says, “hi” too. He’s a big boy now.[/quote]
Dude, just awesome.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.[/quote]
The truth is bodybuilding has turned into a circus freak show. Btw I meant the guy with the fat stomach whining was blubbery, not the original poster. Bodybuilding despite iwhat it is today used to be about something else then visiting Tijuana and taking mass quantities of shit. So writing to me that I am not allowed to write on a bodybuilding forum just because I am not eating horse steaks and anabolics is an assault on anyone who trains without pharmaceutical enhancement.
I just don’t see how a dentist with an important life as you think you have the time to write over 20000 posts on an internet forum, and not changing your opinion on anything since you first started on this forum. So don’t write to me about priorities and underacheiving. I have my own goal, just as you do, which obviously involves a lot of eating.
And no I am not a troll, I just have my own opinion, choose to ignore it or whatever. You taking it as an assault on who you are must mean I’ve struck a nerve. I have other shit to do.
[quote]ill wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.
The truth is bodybuilding has turned into a circus freak show. Btw I meant the guy with the fat stomach whining was blubbery, not the original poster. Bodybuilding despite iwhat it is today used to be about something else then visiting Tijuana and taking mass quantities of shit. So writing to me that I am not allowed to write on a bodybuilding forum just because I am not eating horse steaks and anabolics is an assault on anyone who trains without pharmaceutical enhancement.
I just don’t see how a dentist with an important life as you think you have the time to write over 20000 posts on an internet forum, and not changing your opinion on anything since you first started on this forum. So don’t write to me about priorities and underacheiving. I have my own goal, just as you do, which obviously involves a lot of eating.
And no I am not a troll, I just have my own opinion, choose to ignore it or whatever. You taking it as an assault on who you are must mean I’ve struck a nerve. I have other shit to do.
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It dosen’t matter what you think about BB, on steroids or not on steroids, most of us read and write on here for info, advice , motivation and encouragment to anyone that wants it. Evidently you don’t want it, but you want to humiliate and insult everyone else. So yes, I have a problem with anyone that wants to insult the members of T-Nation. Like you should have been taught as a youngster,"If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
By the way, I don’t eat horses or visit Mexico. If you read the posts , you too might learn how to build some muscle and don’t worry, I don’t think you will get ever get too big.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
morepain wrote:
Professor X wrote:
prospa7 wrote:
morepain wrote:
well since we have an 18 and 19 i guess its fair i start a 21" arm thread?
try losing some fat and make a <20 thread, k?
This post was serious? He looks fat to you?
Why is it guys like this are never the ones who have any pics up or are always far from the size they are criticizing?
small pic but you can see all my lard here
Don’t take it personally. They’ve been calling me “morbidly obese” for years on this site.[/quote]
I still can’t understand how you are still alive.
[quote]ill wrote:
The truth is as long as i stay “natural” I will never have a chance at getting up there, no matter how much food I eat. I respect the dedication and hard work it takes to get to where he has gone, and I know it is a very small procentile that even can get 21" arms while taking steroids (etc). [/quote]
Heh you don’t respect shit. Since when is making stabs at people with out class RESPECT?
[quote]ill wrote:
That being said I remember the time I used to read this site years ago and assume that this is possible for a non-steroid user in my blissful ignorance. I was just wondering what it took to get to such a goal.[/quote]
OP was open with what he did and never was negative towards you. Yet you had to ruin his whole thread with talk of people abusing steroids, this and that. Some of it pretty fuckin’ random and not relevant to the thread at hand. C’mon man get a life seriously. Yet seems you and HH are boyfriends or one in the same ha.
[quote]ill wrote:
Also it means that I have a hard time taking any articles that seriously anymore when they are written for enhanced trainees. Anyway congratulations on your achievement, I still find it admirable.
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What would have been more admirable is if you would have left it at this and backed out from the thread completely.
[quote]ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
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You have a goal to reach 18". Good for you. Yet you come out guns blazing shittin’ on a stranger you have never met in your life? If it wasn’t hard, don’t you think there would be guys all over walking around with huge arms? I mean there’s people out there right now as you say who eat 400 gs of protein a day and do mass steroids. Train hard yet don’t look nearly at the level pros do (who usually take less then people think, speakin of the genetic elite of course). Genetics my friend are individual and unique. Don’t shit on another persons progress cause you got the short end of the stick.
so after reviewing ill. He states he’s not a troll. So I came to the conclusion. He is just another nancy boy, letting his faults get to the best of him. Thus he desperately tries to come off as a realist badass. Which is all a gimmick. Thank you for your time. My skinny ass needs to go train now…
-Carlito
This thread went to shit… but just wanted to say that the OP did an awesome job. Really fucking cool man.
[quote]ill wrote:
The truth is bodybuilding has turned into a circus freak show. Btw I meant the guy with the fat stomach whining was blubbery, not the original poster. Bodybuilding despite iwhat it is today used to be about something else then visiting Tijuana and taking mass quantities of shit. So writing to me that I am not allowed to write on a bodybuilding forum just because I am not eating horse steaks and anabolics is an assault on anyone who trains without pharmaceutical enhancement.
I just don’t see how a dentist with an important life as you think you have the time to write over 20000 posts on an internet forum, and not changing your opinion on anything since you first started on this forum. So don’t write to me about priorities and underacheiving. I have my own goal, just as you do, which obviously involves a lot of eating.
And no I am not a troll, I just have my own opinion, choose to ignore it or whatever. You taking it as an assault on who you are must mean I’ve struck a nerve. I have other shit to do.
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then keep ur goals for yourself, but stop posting here, we don’t want to read this, really.
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
ill wrote:
The truth is as long as i stay “natural” I will never have a chance at getting up there, no matter how much food I eat. I respect the dedication and hard work it takes to get to where he has gone, and I know it is a very small procentile that even can get 21" arms while taking steroids (etc).
Heh you don’t respect shit. Since when is making stabs at people with out class RESPECT?
ill wrote:
That being said I remember the time I used to read this site years ago and assume that this is possible for a non-steroid user in my blissful ignorance. I was just wondering what it took to get to such a goal.
OP was open with what he did and never was negative towards you. Yet you had to ruin his whole thread with talk of people abusing steroids, this and that. Some of it pretty fuckin’ random and not relevant to the thread at hand. C’mon man get a life seriously. Yet seems you and HH are boyfriends or one in the same ha.
ill wrote:
Also it means that I have a hard time taking any articles that seriously anymore when they are written for enhanced trainees. Anyway congratulations on your achievement, I still find it admirable.
What would have been more admirable is if you would have left it at this and backed out from the thread completely.
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
You have a goal to reach 18". Good for you. Yet you come out guns blazing shittin’ on a stranger you have never met in your life? If it wasn’t hard, don’t you think there would be guys all over walking around with huge arms? I mean there’s people out there right now as you say who eat 400 gs of protein a day and do mass steroids. Train hard yet don’t look nearly at the level pros do (who usually take less then people think, speakin of the genetic elite of course). Genetics my friend are individual and unique. Don’t shit on another persons progress cause you got the short end of the stick.
so after reviewing ill. He states he’s not a troll. So I came to the conclusion. He is just another nancy boy, letting his faults get to the best of him. Thus he desperately tries to come off as a realist badass. Which is all a gimmick. Thank you for your time. My skinny ass needs to go train now…
-Carlito[/quote]
Lol I made it very clear what he has done with his body is very impressive, no matter how he accomplished it. I just wouldn’t want to live that life style or even look the way he does. But hey to each his own. And the only thing I wrote in the start of this thread, was how he accomplished this and I got a nice honest answer. I have no problem with what he does, he can do whatever he likes. It wasn’t until shit was thrown at me for being an underachiever, that I responded with my own opinion, I have had no problem lurking on this site for a long time. Anyway out of respect for the original thread I won’t discuss more here. Have fun with your closed locker room of only praise and awe.
[quote]bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.
The truth is bodybuilding has turned into a circus freak show. Btw I meant the guy with the fat stomach whining was blubbery, not the original poster. Bodybuilding despite iwhat it is today used to be about something else then visiting Tijuana and taking mass quantities of shit. So writing to me that I am not allowed to write on a bodybuilding forum just because I am not eating horse steaks and anabolics is an assault on anyone who trains without pharmaceutical enhancement.
I just don’t see how a dentist with an important life as you think you have the time to write over 20000 posts on an internet forum, and not changing your opinion on anything since you first started on this forum. So don’t write to me about priorities and underacheiving. I have my own goal, just as you do, which obviously involves a lot of eating.
And no I am not a troll, I just have my own opinion, choose to ignore it or whatever. You taking it as an assault on who you are must mean I’ve struck a nerve. I have other shit to do.
It dosen’t matter what you think about BB, on steroids or not on steroids, most of us read and write on here for info, advice , motivation and encouragment to anyone that wants it. Evidently you don’t want it, but you want to humiliate and insult everyone else. So yes, I have a problem with anyone that wants to insult the members of T-Nation. Like you should have been taught as a youngster,"If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
By the way, I don’t eat horses or visit Mexico. If you read the posts , you too might learn how to build some muscle and don’t worry, I don’t think you will get ever get too big.[/quote]
I do read articles here, but I just take some of them with a grain of salt. And I don’t have a problem building muscle. You are right that I went off on a tangent a bit, but it still is my opinion and as far as I can see this is a bodybuilding discussion forum. So where is the right to discuss?
[quote]ill wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bwhitwell wrote:
ill wrote:
Tshep26 wrote:
ill, in response to your last post, i achieved 21 inch arms and a build i am proud of without taking any “enhanced supplements”. Take it or leave it, but i dont like hearing people giving excuses as too why they cant reach their goals. Believe it or not! Good luck too you
21 inches of blubber on a short frame is what you have. I am 6’2 with a 6’8 arm spread, the amount of muscle I would have to pack on my arms to get 21" yet alone my goal of 18" (which I am close to) is a very hard thing to do without a high fat procent or steroids, even then it’s hard. It isn’t an excuse, it is what is realistic for someone who never has tooken anything.
Not to be rude but checking out your profile, you have no pics of your muscular arm. I think you need to back up your negative comments to Tshep26 with a recent pic of yourself or apologize and keep your negative comments to yourself.
Guys like that are here for the thrill of getting a response from people who are bigger than they can reach. There’s no other reason for posts like that or the other in this thread with the same mentality…and this one has been here since 2005 apparently.
It’s just one more thing they get to do on the internet that they would never do in real life.
The truth is bodybuilding has turned into a circus freak show. Btw I meant the guy with the fat stomach whining was blubbery, not the original poster. Bodybuilding despite iwhat it is today used to be about something else then visiting Tijuana and taking mass quantities of shit. So writing to me that I am not allowed to write on a bodybuilding forum just because I am not eating horse steaks and anabolics is an assault on anyone who trains without pharmaceutical enhancement.
I just don’t see how a dentist with an important life as you think you have the time to write over 20000 posts on an internet forum, and not changing your opinion on anything since you first started on this forum. So don’t write to me about priorities and underacheiving. I have my own goal, just as you do, which obviously involves a lot of eating.
And no I am not a troll, I just have my own opinion, choose to ignore it or whatever. You taking it as an assault on who you are must mean I’ve struck a nerve. I have other shit to do.
It dosen’t matter what you think about BB, on steroids or not on steroids, most of us read and write on here for info, advice , motivation and encouragment to anyone that wants it. Evidently you don’t want it, but you want to humiliate and insult everyone else. So yes, I have a problem with anyone that wants to insult the members of T-Nation. Like you should have been taught as a youngster,"If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
By the way, I don’t eat horses or visit Mexico. If you read the posts , you too might learn how to build some muscle and don’t worry, I don’t think you will get ever get too big.
I do read articles here, but I just take some of them with a grain of salt. And I don’t have a problem building muscle. You are right that I went off on a tangent a bit, but it still is my opinion and as far as I can see this is a bodybuilding discussion forum. So where is the right to discuss?
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Sorry, you are right, I should respect your opinion just as I hope you respect mine, it’s all good.
[quote]morepain wrote:
well since we have an 18 and 19 i guess its fair i start a 21" arm thread?[/quote]
i’m impressed
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
morepain wrote:
well since we have an 18 and 19 i guess its fair i start a 21" arm thread?
i’m impressed[/quote]
Mac MMF morepain…
It sure is a shame this thread was taken over by the douchebag patrol for a while.
To morepain and tshep: Awesome guys! I can’t wait to get to this level and have people call me names. That is when I will know I have made it to the big time.