2014 NFL Thread III

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Fake the dive right to Lynch (linebackers bite up to stop the dive), QB rollout left throwing to a tight end dragging across the back line of the end zone. Thrown high and outside.

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There was only one LB not on the line And with Nink and Collins on the outside, the rollout becomes a lower percentage play.

Look, end of the day, the Pats were more prepared for that series of downs than the Seahawks. They had their bases covered. That’s why you hand it to Lynch, he can make a play.

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If that is what you take away from that photo, you don’t really understand football

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Fake the dive right to Lynch (linebackers bite up to stop the dive), QB rollout left throwing to a tight end dragging across the back line of the end zone. Thrown high and outside.

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There was only one LB not on the line And with Nink and Collins on the outside, the rollout becomes a lower percentage play.

Look, end of the day, the Pats were more prepared for that series of downs than the Seahawks. They had their bases covered. That’s why you hand it to Lynch, he can make a play.

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If that is what you take away from that photo, you don’t really understand football[/quote]

Coming from you, that’s a compliment.

How about you blow me? How’s that sound?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Fake the dive right to Lynch (linebackers bite up to stop the dive), QB rollout left throwing to a tight end dragging across the back line of the end zone. Thrown high and outside.

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There was only one LB not on the line And with Nink and Collins on the outside, the rollout becomes a lower percentage play.

Look, end of the day, the Pats were more prepared for that series of downs than the Seahawks. They had their bases covered. That’s why you hand it to Lynch, he can make a play.

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If that is what you take away from that photo, you don’t really understand football[/quote]

Coming from you, that’s a compliment.

How about you blow me? How’s that sound?[/quote]

Aren’t you an accountant? I assume you know how to count.

There are 8 Pats on the line of scrimmage! HaHa.

A play action bootleg, like MaxB suggested could easily pull one of the outside pat players inside for a spit second and give Wilson a open bootleg into the endzone without even throwing.

He gets out of containment his receiver is running an outside route, the corner is fucked, if he breaks off the receiver it’s a lob for a TD, if he stays in coverage Wilson walks in.

There is nothing wrong with rooting for your team and not really know how the game works. You don’t have to get your feelings hurt because you don’t understand. I have met many women that loved and cheered very hard for their favorite team and they didn’t know much about the game either. It’s OK Beans

[quote]mbdix wrote:
There is nothing wrong with rooting for your team and not really know how the game works. You don’t have to get your feelings hurt because you don’t understand. I have met many women that loved and cheered very hard for their favorite team and they didn’t know much about the game either. It’s OK Beans[/quote]

Says the clown pumping J. Football’s tires… lmao

Okay beaners

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Okay beaners[/quote]

Like I said… Complete fucking clown.

Jesus Christ get off my nuts please. I’m married.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Fake the dive right to Lynch (linebackers bite up to stop the dive), QB rollout left throwing to a tight end dragging across the back line of the end zone. Thrown high and outside.

[/quote]

There was only one LB not on the line And with Nink and Collins on the outside, the rollout becomes a lower percentage play.

Look, end of the day, the Pats were more prepared for that series of downs than the Seahawks. They had their bases covered. That’s why you hand it to Lynch, he can make a play.

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If that is what you take away from that photo, you don’t really understand football[/quote]

Coming from you, that’s a compliment.

How about you blow me? How’s that sound?[/quote]

Aren’t you an accountant? I assume you know how to count.

There are 8 Pats on the line of scrimmage! HaHa.

A play action bootleg, like MaxB suggested could easily pull one of the outside pat players inside for a spit second and give Wilson a open bootleg into the endzone without even throwing.

He gets out of containment his receiver is running an outside route, the corner is fucked, if he breaks off the receiver it’s a lob for a TD, if he stays in coverage Wilson walks in.

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This.

You make that single safety/linebacker choose.

If he stays back in coverage, Wilson strolls in, remember there is only 1 man back in coverage.

If the safety/linebacker comes up to try to stop Wilson from running it in, Wilson makes an easy toss over his head for the score. Even if the pass is not caught, it’s an incomplete pass which stops the clock.

Remember, the entire world is talking about how Lynch (maybe the best running back in football) should run in it, so how effective would a fake dive to him be ? EXTREMELY !

All you need is a split second to throw off that safety and the play works.

This is only one of a hundred possible plays for this scenario

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

You make that single safety/linebacker choose.

If he stays back in coverage, Wilson strolls in, remember there is only 1 man back in coverage.
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Because the other 3 on the field are just going to stand there and let the magic that is the under coached Seahawks offense just roll right in?

Again… There are 3 other LB’s on the field, just on the line.

If I misinterpreted your first post that brought numb nuts out of the fold, fine. But the way you make it sound is like Pats are in base D and fucking stupidly out matched, which they obviously weren’t because they picked a fucking 2 yard slant.

Less than you think, surely. Otherwise it would have been part of their goal line package, and ran as a play. Which in turn means the Pats would have been just as ready for it, as they were the 2 YARD SLANT they intercepted.

[quote]All you need is a split second to throw off that safety and the play works.
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He’s a linebacker.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Mark my words, 5 - 10 - 20 years from now it will be known as The Call.

That’s all it will take and e’eryone that’s anyone about the NFL will know the subject.[/quote]

The Drive
The Fumble
The Call - maybe worse since it could have won the superbowl vs get into the superbowl

Pats are in Big 3 corners.

That’s 3 corners for the wideouts.
3 LB’s one of whom is off the line
1 Nink who is a DE/LB hybred in this D
4 down lineman

I know it’s hard to accept the Pats were a better team, and really easy to just think of ways in which you guys would be better head coaches than Carroll, but let’s not lose sight of the Pats knew the play, and jumped a route to intercept a fucking 2 yard slant…

We can stop pretending it was a fluke anytime now.

EDIT: 5 v 4 down lineman

3 previous drives:

3:15 in the 3rd - 4 plays 33 yards - punt
14:17 in the 4th - 3 plays (5) yards - punt
7:55 in the 4th - 3 plays 5 yards - punt

We’ll ignore the broken up (by Butler again) pass that became a miracle catch for a second.

3 straight punts, the last two drives ending up 6 plays for net zero yards, but there are “hundreds of combinations out of that formation that could have had the seahawks EASILY score”…

It’s a wonder you guys aren’t head coaches… Because the guys getting paid millions sure are dumb like me and know nothing about football I guess.

Face the facts beans, your team cheats. The only reason your team won the Superbowl is because the Seahawks made the worst call in sports history.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Face the facts beans, your team cheats. The only reason your team won the Superbowl is because the Seahawks made the worst call in sports history. [/quote]

LOL.

What an amazing post, and I don’t mean that in the “x2 amazing post” way.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3 previous drives:

3:15 in the 3rd - 4 plays 33 yards - punt
14:17 in the 4th - 3 plays (5) yards - punt
7:55 in the 4th - 3 plays 5 yards - punt

We’ll ignore the broken up (by Butler again) pass that became a miracle catch for a second.

3 straight punts, the last two drives ending up 6 plays for net zero yards, but there are “hundreds of combinations out of that formation that could have had the seahawks EASILY score”…

It’s a wonder you guys aren’t head coaches… Because the guys getting paid millions sure are dumb like me and know nothing about football I guess. [/quote]

We can also look at the numbers the Seahawks put up against Green Bay in the AFC Championship Game, how dreadful they looked, and we all know how that turned out.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Face the facts beans, your team cheats. The only reason your team won the Superbowl is because the Seahawks made the worst call in sports history. [/quote]

I would not go that far, the Pats played a good game for sure. Both teams played their asses off down to the wire. The Pats played better when it came down to it, and were definitely coached better.

This is how Superbowls should be played, with the winner decided in the final minute of the game.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Face the facts beans, your team cheats. The only reason your team won the Superbowl is because the Seahawks made the worst call in sports history. [/quote]

I don’t get this. Sure, that was the worst call in sports history, I agree. But the hawks would not have even been in that position if it wasn’t for the fluke catch right before that.

It takes some amount of luck to win a super bowl. I don’t care who wins, it takes some luck. If the hawks won, it would have been an extremely lucky catch that did it for them.

At the end of the day, the team with more points played better, any other “buts”, “what ifs” and “could have happened” are meaningless. Just get over it, man.

I think the call was stupid, but if Carroll hadn’t had the balls to go for the touchdown with :06 to go in the first half, they wouldn’t have been in the game anyway. At half-time, he looked like a ballsy genius.

I agree with most of what you last three guys posted 100%. I don’t necessarily agree that it takes some luck to win a superbowl though. I will drop it now. Even if beans comes back on here talking his shit.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3 previous drives:

3:15 in the 3rd - 4 plays 33 yards - punt
14:17 in the 4th - 3 plays (5) yards - punt
7:55 in the 4th - 3 plays 5 yards - punt

We’ll ignore the broken up (by Butler again) pass that became a miracle catch for a second.

3 straight punts, the last two drives ending up 6 plays for net zero yards, but there are “hundreds of combinations out of that formation that could have had the seahawks EASILY score”…

It’s a wonder you guys aren’t head coaches… Because the guys getting paid millions sure are dumb like me and know nothing about football I guess. [/quote]

We can also look at the numbers the Seahawks put up against Green Bay in the AFC Championship Game, how dreadful they looked, and we all know how that turned out.
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No comparison. GB isn’t NE, NE isn’t GB.

The Pats scored 14 unanswered points in 6 mins on the “legion of boom”, held the Hawks to a Field Goal on one possession and completely stuffed that offense the last quarter and a half outside of 3 plays, one of whom a lucky catch…

The final play was a good read by Wilson. Undrafted FA rookie playing back from the guy running a two yard slant with a pick… Given that, it isn’t even a bad throw, or bad choice to throw it where he did. Very few no-name walk-on’s are going to make that play, and only a half dozen defense coaches have their team that prepared.

In the end, the Pats won because they were the better team, better coach, and made the plays when it mattered. The Hawks didn’t. You guys can arm chair that play, and pull magical “what if’s” out of your behinds (that apparently million dollar coaching staffs are too stupid or full of shit to think about), but it doesn’t matter. It was a 60 min games, and the Hawks just didn’t get it done. Couldn’t stop the Pats on 3rd down, couldn’t convert themselves at the same clip… Never made a defense adjustment to the Pats game plan, and were generally outplayed outside a handful of big plays…