[quote]linnrose wrote:
I forget, are you lifting in AL this weekend and Knoxville the next? I’ll wear one of my SpongeBob shirts to the Knoxville meet so I’ll be easy to spot if you’re there.[/quote]
I will be at Knoxville. I’ll look for the really strong guy in the sponge bob shirt.
So everything was high and sloppy. 330 is now offically in my head and fucking with me big time. I have one more squat day before the meet and I’m going to do it or break my fucking neck.
Joe, I notice you raised the safety supports for the last 305. If you had dropped until you touched then the 305 would likely have been legal.
If you have the supports set at that height for the 330 then you can keep sitting back until you lightly touch (for confidence and to judge depth) then hammer out of the hole.
edit: looked at it again…that 305 was pretty damn close
[quote]giterdone wrote:
Joe, I notice you raised the safety supports for the last 305. If you had dropped until you touched then the 305 would likely have been legal.
If you have the supports set at that height for the 330 then you can keep sitting back until you lightly touch (for confidence and to judge depth) then hammer out of the hole.
edit: looked at it again…that 305 was pretty damn close[/quote]
I feel pretty confident on the 305 as my meet squats are deeper than my gym squats.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
Joe, I notice you raised the safety supports for the last 305. If you had dropped until you touched then the 305 would likely have been legal.
If you have the supports set at that height for the 330 then you can keep sitting back until you lightly touch (for confidence and to judge depth) then hammer out of the hole.
edit: looked at it again…that 305 was pretty damn close[/quote]
I feel pretty confident on the 305 as my meet squats are deeper than my gym squats.
Which is just another way I’m odd.
It’s the 330 that is bugging the crap out of me.[/quote]
For the 330, what if you set the safety bars with 2 empty holes at the bottom and squat to touch the bars? This will be a bit high. Change the safeties to one hole empty at bottom and do another touch and go.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
Joe, I notice you raised the safety supports for the last 305. If you had dropped until you touched then the 305 would likely have been legal.
If you have the supports set at that height for the 330 then you can keep sitting back until you lightly touch (for confidence and to judge depth) then hammer out of the hole.
edit: looked at it again…that 305 was pretty damn close[/quote]
Do you do that? put the safety bars at a point to touch them and practice depth?
Also Joe on me having better form that the young chickie,not that hard.
[quote]PeteS wrote:
problem with using safeties to gauge depth is you can cheat, and ‘gm’ the bar down to the safety height w/o hips actually dipping low enough[/quote]
yea ok, just wondered. I think ive got my depth under control anyway.
[quote]PeteS wrote:
problem with using safeties to gauge depth is you can cheat, and ‘gm’ the bar down to the safety height w/o hips actually dipping low enough[/quote]
True enough. Not sure Joe has access to boxes though.
I was thinking more about the psychology around failing the lift. Set the safeties so that you can go deep knowing that you can bail at the bottom if needed.
this may sound retarded but if I’m having issue with a weight, say 330, I’ll squat 315-320 for the confidence boost and then tell myself it’s only 10lbs more.
just a thought. when you are nearing your max a 25lbs jump might be too big.
this may sound retarded but if I’m having issue with a weight, say 330, I’ll squat 315-320 for the confidence boost and then tell myself it’s only 10lbs more.
just a thought. when you are nearing your max a 25lbs jump might be too big.[/quote]
You are, of course, right. I do thid on heavy sets when I am just lifting. The thing is I need a 25lb jump or so at the meet.
Squatting to the safeties always throws me off. Boxes are a much better idea, I believe. Could you fashion one and take it with you to the gym? Then just t-n-g off that for assurance you’re hitting depth.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Squatting to the safeties always throws me off. Boxes are a much better idea, I believe. Could you fashion one and take it with you to the gym? Then just t-n-g off that for assurance you’re hitting depth. [/quote]
If you squat to a box make sure you have the safeties set high enough in case you get stuck sitting on the box and can’t get off. Trust me.
Since I am having nightmares of depth myself, I spent a good hour on various websites looking at people squatting at meets, and I swear some of these lifters depth look super high, wherein it makes your depth look super deep in comparison. Now some of the vids had huge amounts of weight being squatted, some not so much…so Im assuming different feds are more lenient with squat depth…does weight every come into play when judging depth?
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Since I am having nightmares of depth myself, I spent a good hour on various websites looking at people squatting at meets, and I swear some of these lifters depth look super high, wherein it makes your depth look super deep in comparison. Now some of the vids had huge amounts of weight being squatted, some not so much…so Im assuming different feds are more lenient with squat depth…does weight every come into play when judging depth?[/quote]
Weight should never come into play when judging depth. The standards should be the same for the opening squat (I’ve seen women open with a bare bar) and the heaviest. I believe most feds say that a legal squat is when the crease of the hip dips below the top of the knee. But there’s still huge interpretative license of what a legal squat is. Some feds are ridiculously lenient and pass squats that aren’t even parallel while others are neurotically strict and want to see practically ATG. I will say that camera angle can truly affect how depth looks. I’ve found the best and most accurate way to judge depth is directly from the side at a height that a ref would be at when sitting in a chair. It’s the side judges who usually watch for depth since they can see that angle of hip crease to top of knee.
[quote]PeteS wrote:
problem with using safeties to gauge depth is you can cheat, and ‘gm’ the bar down to the safety height w/o hips actually dipping low enough[/quote]
True enough. Not sure Joe has access to boxes though.
I was thinking more about the psychology around failing the lift. Set the safeties so that you can go deep knowing that you can bail at the bottom if needed.[/quote]
Agree with Git. As I recall, seemed to help Joe break the 300 mark for his last meet when he did a bail at the bottom thing just before his meet. Pete is obviously correct, but I can’t recall seeing Joe GM a squat in any of his videos, he just stops too high.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Since I am having nightmares of depth myself, I spent a good hour on various websites looking at people squatting at meets, and I swear some of these lifters depth look super high, wherein it makes your depth look super deep in comparison. Now some of the vids had huge amounts of weight being squatted, some not so much…so Im assuming different feds are more lenient with squat depth…does weight every come into play when judging depth?[/quote]
Weight should never come into play when judging depth. The standards should be the same for the opening squat (I’ve seen women open with a bare bar) and the heaviest. I believe most feds say that a legal squat is when the crease of the hip dips below the top of the knee. But there’s still huge interpretative license of what a legal squat is. Some feds are ridiculously lenient and pass squats that aren’t even parallel while others are neurotically strict and want to see practically ATG. I will say that camera angle can truly affect how depth looks. I’ve found the best and most accurate way to judge depth is directly from the side at a height that a ref would be at when sitting in a chair. It’s the side judges who usually watch for depth since they can see that angle of hip crease to top of knee.[/quote]
how deep you LOOK can be altered quite a bit by how you are built too. I have one training partner whose quads have such a big sweep that he always looks a little high, even when hip is well beneath the knee