[quote]chillain wrote:
MIA’s shortcomings are more about Bosh (being exposed as little more than a glorified 3) than Wade/James in crunch time. IMO
Reminds me of how that old Kidd-Jackson-Mashburn squad showed us how that setup doesn’t work. (Ok not really, but maybe kind of)
[/quote]
I see what you’re saying but don’t fully agree. Miami has a few major problems, chief of which is no crunchtime identity. In the past, Wade has proven himself to be pretty damn clutch, and James has too to a lesser degree. But, so far this year there’s no clear #1 when it matters and it’s seemed to frustrate the shit out of 'em. As much as I dislike 'em, they have the horses to be competitve down to the wire against good teams. They just don’t know how to win, and they don’t have that one dude who wants that last shot everytime and doesn’t care about pissing people off to take it.
Also, I loved the old 3-J’s but they never even made the playoff, haha. Mashburn was the shit though.
I was at class all day but holy shit raps game went to triple OT with a 137-136 final. Anyone catch it?
You frighten me RajRaj. I didn’t know any passionate Raptor fans actually existed. And when I say that I mean actually care about whether they win or lose. I was under the assumption they showed up there in Toronto to watch the superstars of the other team or just to watch some basketball.
Haha!
Believe it or not Toronto is a big basketball town. It just harder to tell because hockey is no. 1 in Toronto.
Not this year, but the Raptors have been in the top 15 in league attendance for most of their existence.
You shoulda seen what it was like during 2000-2002!!
Ahahahaha!!! So therajraj and getnitdone…are you still sticking with your beloved Miami team to win the east? They can’t beat any good team. They can’t close out. They have a losing record in wins/losses of 5 points or less. They’re like 1 and 9 against contenders. And these guys are going to beat the Celtics or the Bulls for that matter in the post season???
[quote]randman wrote:
Ahahahaha!!! So therajraj and getnitdone…are you still sticking with your beloved Miami team to win the east? They can’t beat any good team. They can’t close out. They have a losing record in wins/losses of 5 points or less. They’re like 1 and 9 against contenders. And these guys are going to beat the Celtics or the Bulls for that matter in the post season???[/quote]
If you go back and re-read what I wrote, I said I think the Heat have a pretty good chance against the Celtics. I didn’t pick them over the Celtics, in fact I didn’t pick either team.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]randman wrote:
Ahahahaha!!! So therajraj and getnitdone…are you still sticking with your beloved Miami team to win the east? They can’t beat any good team. They can’t close out. They have a losing record in wins/losses of 5 points or less. They’re like 1 and 9 against contenders. And these guys are going to beat the Celtics or the Bulls for that matter in the post season???[/quote]
If you go back and re-read what I wrote, I said I think the Heat have a pretty good chance against the Celtics. I didn’t pick them over the Celtics, in fact I didn’t pick either team.
[/quote]
I know, you said a “pretty good chance”. Ahahahaha!!! Yep, keep smoking dope therajraj. The backpedaling continues…
[quote]randman wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]randman wrote:
Ahahahaha!!! So therajraj and getnitdone…are you still sticking with your beloved Miami team to win the east? They can’t beat any good team. They can’t close out. They have a losing record in wins/losses of 5 points or less. They’re like 1 and 9 against contenders. And these guys are going to beat the Celtics or the Bulls for that matter in the post season???[/quote]
If you go back and re-read what I wrote, I said I think the Heat have a pretty good chance against the Celtics. I didn’t pick them over the Celtics, in fact I didn’t pick either team.
[/quote]
I know, you said a “pretty good chance”. Ahahahaha!!! Yep, keep smoking dope therajraj. The backpedaling continues…[/quote]
Lets just wait for the playoffs.
LOL @ back-pedalling, I thought that was your specialty 
No, I own up to shit raj. I have before on this thread. Wait till the playoffs, ha ha ha ha.
Well, the Lakers put it on the Spurs and Miami’s continuing it’s mini-meltdown. All that adds up to absolutely nothing. While I don’t like Miami and believe they have a 0% chance of winning a championship this year I do think the media’s making more out of their current losing streak than need be. I also don’t buy for a second that players were “crying in the locker room” as Spoelstra said.
But, if they really were then there is a big problem and everything I just wrote is wrong. Also, the Spurs have already beaten the Lakers twice this season, so while this was a statement game to a degree I don’t think too much should be read into it. Interested to see how the elite teams handle this last stretch before the playoffs.
^ What motivation would Spoelstra have to make something like that up? I betcha Lebron was one of em…he he.
Also Whiteflash, I’m surprised your downplaying the Heat’s struggles. All team’s going through losing streaks but if you look under the surface, the Heat’s problems run deep. First of all size, they don’t have it and it’s going to bite them in the ass. Second is they are confused on who is supposed to have the ball and what they are supposed to do in the final seconds of a close game. The first problem is impossible to solve now for this season. And the second problem is not easily remedied either with both Wade and Lebron having such similar styles.
What are they? 1 and 9 against contenders? They are like 1 for 18 for shots in the final 5 seconds of a 3 pts or fewer game. They are like 10 and 17 or something ridiculous against teams with over .500 records. The stats go on and on.
I keep saying the Celtics are going to wipe them up in the post-season but now I’m starting to think if Miami meets Chicago first they may not even get to the Cs.
[quote]randman wrote:
Also Whiteflash, I’m surprised your downplaying the Heat’s struggles. All team’s going through losing streaks but if you look under the surface, the Heat’s problems run deep. First of all size, they don’t have it and it’s going to bite them in the ass. Second is they are confused on who is supposed to have the ball and what they are supposed to do in the final seconds of a close game. The first problem is impossible to solve now for this season. And the second problem is not easily remedied either with both Wade and Lebron having such similar styles.
What are they? 1 and 9 against contenders? They are like 1 for 18 for shots in the final 5 seconds of a 3 pts or fewer game. They are like 10 and 17 or something ridiculous against teams with over .500 records. The stats go on and on.
I keep saying the Celtics are going to wipe them up in the post-season but now I’m starting to think if Miami meets Chicago first they may not even get to the Cs.[/quote]
I’m not downplaying their problems at all. The points you brought up are ones that I’ve mentioned before. I’m downplaying the media’s portrayal of this “dire situation”. Personally, I think the Heat are fucked. I just don’t think grown men are in a locker room crying after losing 4 games in a row. I will say that if they don’t figure something out real quick there’s gonna be a lot of finger pointing and people being thrown under the bus, just like I said during the off-season thread.
Gotcha. Yeah, the media always does that. They were doing that with the Lakers all season long. The sky is falling basically.
[quote]randman wrote:
Gotcha. Yeah, the media always does that. They were doing that with the Lakers all season long. The sky is falling basically.[/quote]
Did y’all catch Wade’s post-game remarks? Even though [I think] he was being tongue-in-cheek I thought they were kinda douchey.
The one where he was saying the world is now happy cuz Miami is losing? You know, it’s called Karma. You can’t preen around putting on championship celebration parties spouting off how you’re going to rattle off 8 championships before you’ve even done anything without expecting some kind of karmic retribution.
[quote]randman wrote:
The one where he was saying the world is now happy cuz Miami is losing? You know, it’s called Karma. You can’t preen around putting on championship celebration parties spouting off how you’re going to rattle off 8 championships before you’ve even done anything without expecting some kind of karmic retribution.[/quote]
This team will get it together eventually.
Maybe not this year but it will happen. These players are too good not to figure it out
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Did y’all catch Wade’s post-game remarks? Even though [I think] he was being tongue-in-cheek I thought they were kinda douchey.[/quote]
I feel like MIA’s big three has been genuinely surprised by all the hate they’ve received. I mean, Wade and James especially have seen nothin but love for their entire lives previously and prob never saw this coming.
The other funny consequence is how other stars are now following MIA’s lead and teaming up, like in NY. And if D Howard ends up in LA. And maybe MIA never gets their ring after all…
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]randman wrote:
The one where he was saying the world is now happy cuz Miami is losing? You know, it’s called Karma. You can’t preen around putting on championship celebration parties spouting off how you’re going to rattle off 8 championships before you’ve even done anything without expecting some kind of karmic retribution.[/quote]
This team will get it together eventually.
Maybe not this year but it will happen. These players are too good not to figure it out[/quote]
I never made any claims for next year and beyond even though I secretly hope for Lebron to stay championshipless as long as possible. But what they need is size down low. That is the most glaring weakness of the team.
[quote]randman wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]randman wrote:
The one where he was saying the world is now happy cuz Miami is losing? You know, it’s called Karma. You can’t preen around putting on championship celebration parties spouting off how you’re going to rattle off 8 championships before you’ve even done anything without expecting some kind of karmic retribution.[/quote]
This team will get it together eventually.
Maybe not this year but it will happen. These players are too good not to figure it out[/quote]
I never made any claims for next year and beyond even though I secretly hope for Lebron to stay championshipless as long as possible. But what they need is size down low. That is the most glaring weakness of the team.[/quote]
Not saying you did. Just pointing it out.