Say it isn’t so Highpull, is this your recent testing?
@systemlord
Doubtful. He’s got a host of labs at his disposal so I think that’s someone else’s he’s using to prove a point.
Nah, mine runs between 19-26.
This guy is a meathead with a significant history of doing meathead stuff. He’s a TRT guy now, for a few years. Doing great.
No matter the total dosage I would split it in 7 or use scrotal cream.
No I inject 20mg daily
15 weeks. Previous protocol was 160 mg split into two shots Mon and Thurs which put me at TT 953 ng/dl and FT at 20.01 ng/dl.
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Ok guys. Final survey and thoughts. I was going to start daily shots but after calculating my availability daily has to be eliminated. Here are the details:
- I get 3 vials of test E 200 mg/ml (5 ml vials) = 3000 mg test for 92 days
- I have 32.6 mg daily testosterone at my disposal
- I can only use 1 ml luerlok syringes with a 26 gauge 5/8” inch needle
- my loss per injection is 0.05 ml due to needle dead space. This translates to 10 mg testosterone loss per injection
- so my goal is 200 mg a week divided
- if I inject daily 28.6 mg + 10 mg loss I’m using 38.6 mg daily. My limit is 32,6 mg. Using 38,6 mg daily would require 3551 mg for my 3 month supply. That’s an extra half bottle which I won’t have.
- So this eliminates daily
Now finally for your guys views.
- go to EOD 55 mg + 10 mg wasted = 2990 mg so within 3000 mg budget
- go to every 3 days 88 mg + 10 mg wasted = 3005 mg
- or even every 4 days 120 mg + 10 mg wasted = 2990 mg so within 3000 mg budget
Trt 1.5 years. Currently on 66 mg every 4 days. SHBG 32. Through TT 739, FT 18.2, E2 45 non sensitive.
You could look into the “airlock” injection method which basically involves pulling a tiny bit of air (0.15 ml or so) which, when you hold the syringe vertically, rises to the top so it clears the dead space.
Personally I haven’t tried it and I’ve got no idea / data whether it’s a good idea or not, but I’ve seen a few here recommend it.
Are you in a country you can’t get deliveries from Amazon?
I think @dbossa might have a video on his YouTube channel discussing drawing test into a needle and injecting with zero loss you could watch.
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I guess my question would be is there a huge difference between daily or every other day?
@dbossa you switched from daily to EOD correct? Do you notice any benefit of daily over EOD?
I had issues if I did anything else other than daily. I can’t explain why but I seem to be very sensitive to fluctuations. HOWEVER, I’m doing an experiment now with a higher dose (yes, I understand my dose is already quite high) and doing 3 times a week IM. This is purely an experiment. I have not felt any of the fluctuations I felt previously which is interesting. I’m also feeling better than when I tried higher doses doing SubQ.
I am not suggesting anyone does the above. I treat my body like a chemistry experiment. If anything goes wrong I know what my optimal protocol is that I can immediately fall back on. The results I get may not necessarily be the results you get but it leads me to more research etc.
I’ve never felt fluctuations on any protocol. Started once a week, then once every 3.5 days. Then every 5 days. And currently every 4 days. The only fluctuation I can explain was after a while on the once a week I felt neutral. I’ve never felt bad though. Best libido was on every 5 and every 4 day.
I was on 42mg EOD for a year+ and was feeling pretty good most of the time. I’d have low energy the day of my shot and was still experiencing some intermittent erection/libido issues.
8 weeks ago I switched to 22mg daily. I’m starting to really enjoy this protocol better that EOD. Lots of desire to have sex… And lots of successful sex too. For the first time in as long as I can remember, I thought about having sex with my wife on the way to work this morning and got a raging boner. It was awesome.
It takes time and there will be ups and downs, especially since you are just starting, but having tried both protocols, in giving the win to daily right now at least for me.
Keep us updated, I’m following along. Good luck!
I’ve decided to do 88 mg every 3 days. Total 205 a week. I’ll report back. Again I never felt ups and downs even on once every 7 day protocol.
I find a lot of guys on TRT forums tend to overcomplicate things. I don’t know why, however there appears to be an OCD like mentality in these forums (that I harbour somewhat myself), perhaps the demographic these places attract are more obsessive compulsive types.
Like seriously, there’s no difference between 203-205mg weekly or whatever lol. Just change up protocol, see if you feel good… rinse and repeat, don’t get so caught up in the specifics
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Its def weird. Im sure Ive been off by a few mg here and there, and nothing odd happens.
Only reason I said 205 was to give others a quick reference of what 88 mg every 3 days translates to weekly. I don’t care if I’m injecting 200 or 205.