Whatever you guys post about this cultural differences or ideal physique in different cultures/countries/continents,I still bet most men everywhere would be very happy with a 200 lb. lean body.
I posted about 200 lb. & 10 % bf,coz thats round numbers,is obtainable without steroids.
[quote]Sveti Ante wrote:
Whatever you guys post about this cultural differences or ideal physique in different cultures/countries/continents,I still bet most men everywhere would be very happy with a 200 lb. lean body.
I posted about 200 lb. & 10 % bf,coz thats round numbers,is obtainable without steroids.[/quote]
there are a lot of numbers obtainable without steroids… being 200lbs @ 10% isnt anything incredible (if your 5’10"/5’11")
Holy Ante, I only have one word… meso.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
And I personally find that those who ask these questions are those who don’t really love training (they might like it, but it’s not their passion) they are simply doing it for the results. And ironically, those who do it only for the results are those less likely to reach their goals.[/quote]
Could not agree with you more, Coach! The question reveals the passion - every workout, I’m asking, Can I add another rep to this set, can i increase my max weight on this exercise - the results are the byproduct of the true passion, the self discipline to drive yourself to better and better levels of strength and performance.
like the banner says - the relentless pursuit of muscle!
[quote]worzel wrote:
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You see I really hate ‘peopl generalisations’ and bunching Europe into one big ass soccer playing group of Beckham wannabes bugs me, as I am sure bunching the US into one group of lard ass trigger happy morons might bug you, which of course is far from the truth!
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It doesnt bug me because that’s not me and in general American are fat and happy to own guns. Whatever
[quote]Sveti Ante wrote:
Whatever you guys post about this cultural differences or ideal physique in different cultures/countries/continents,I still bet most men everywhere would be very happy with a 200 lb. lean body.
I posted about 200 lb. & 10 % bf,coz thats round numbers,is obtainable without steroids.[/quote]
Lulz at the pathetic guy
I just wanted to through in my own experience. I’m 19, been lifting since the 7th grade (for football, shotput, and discus) and I’m roughly 210 at 6 feet tall. I don’t have awesome abs, but the top 2 poke out. If I cleaned up my diet for a couple months I’m sure I could have a six-pack at 200, and if I can, you can too.
im currently 19 5’8 and 190 lbs at 10 percent im attemepting to lean out for a powerlifting meet (want to make 165 lol but after water cut) i honestly believe at my age or anything under 25 it comes down to calories and hard work i lived by myself through highschool ate very little and terribly by the end of post grad summer i was arround 175 then when i came to school and was finally able to get 4 liters of milk and 6 meals a day i became covered in stretch marks to the point that i look like a purple tiger and packed on 20 lbs with great gains in strength work hard squat and deadlift often make the principal joys of your life eating and sleeping
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Sveti Ante wrote:
Whatever you guys post about this cultural differences or ideal physique in different cultures/countries/continents,I still bet most men everywhere would be very happy with a 200 lb. lean body.
I posted about 200 lb. & 10 % bf,coz thats round numbers,is obtainable without steroids.[/quote]
Lulz at the pathetic guy [/quote]
You know its true…200 pounds is attainable without da roidzzzzz…but theres no way you can go from 200 to 201 without being juiced to the gills!
[quote]Sveti Ante wrote:
Looking like a soccer player is not an ideal in Europe! These players might be our sports heroes,but we consider them skinny.Mostly,they are about 170 lb.
In my country of Croatia,for example,the bigger & stronger you are,the better.
There is even saying that you are not a real man if you are not over 100 kg (220 lb.).
We consider 120 kg of muscle to be ideal.There are many very tall and muscular people in my country.[/quote]
OP you are either the most artful troll ever (bravo if so) or the dumbest human being that has ever managed to figure out how to turn on a computer and log onto the interwebz…your whole post is how there are no big guys anywhere, yet your fucking country is full of them? Make up your mind…
and for the record, my guess is that you will never hit 200 pounds at 10% BF because I seriously doubt you have the drive…better stop lifting now…
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
Yep. I do think things are changing in the UK though. Young males are a lot more physique conscious now, and there are definitely a lot more people who are interested in getting big. For the most part though, a lot of the interest comes from people who want the ripped Cristiano Ronaldo look because thats what they consider big.
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Lets be honest here–things really arent that different in america. We have a skewed perception as members of this site of course. But ask the average guy on the street which movie character’s body he would most like to have and I guarantee that 75% of the responses will be “Brad Pitt from Fight Club”.
The average, non-weight training unenthusiast is simply unable to distinguish between “big” and “ripped”…this is without borders…
For fuck’s sake, Shia Laboufe is considered an ACTION hero…on what planet is that possible?
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
Yep. I do think things are changing in the UK though. Young males are a lot more physique conscious now, and there are definitely a lot more people who are interested in getting big. For the most part though, a lot of the interest comes from people who want the ripped Cristiano Ronaldo look because thats what they consider big.
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Lets be honest here–things really arent that different in america. We have a skewed perception as members of this site of course. But ask the average guy on the street which movie character’s body he would most like to have and I guarantee that 75% of the responses will be “Brad Pitt from Fight Club”.
The average, non-weight training unenthusiast is simply unable to distinguish between “big” and “ripped”…this is without borders…
For fuck’s sake, Shia Laboufe is considered an ACTION hero…on what planet is that possible?
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I bet if you ask them to decide between BPIFC or Adrian Peterson or Brady Quinn they wouldnt pick the twig if they have an athletic bone in their body
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
Yep. I do think things are changing in the UK though. Young males are a lot more physique conscious now, and there are definitely a lot more people who are interested in getting big. For the most part though, a lot of the interest comes from people who want the ripped Cristiano Ronaldo look because thats what they consider big.
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Lets be honest here–things really arent that different in america. We have a skewed perception as members of this site of course. But ask the average guy on the street which movie character’s body he would most like to have and I guarantee that 75% of the responses will be “Brad Pitt from Fight Club”.
The average, non-weight training unenthusiast is simply unable to distinguish between “big” and “ripped”…this is without borders…
For fuck’s sake, Shia Laboufe is considered an ACTION hero…on what planet is that possible?
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I bet if you ask them to decide between BPIFC or Adrian Peterson or Brady Quinn they wouldnt pick the twig if they have an athletic bone in their body[/quote]
I’d really love for this to be true…but im not holding my breath!
So many things wrong here, but to answer part of your question, it took about a year and a half.
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
So many things wrong here, but to answer part of your question, it took about a year and a half.[/quote]
you’re 200lbs and 10%?
I second, third, fourth…millionth this!
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
jesus christ[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ooooh, let me try.
[quote]Sveti Ante wrote:
What do you think it takes to build lean 200 lb. physuque for a natural lifter?[/quote]
The same thing it takes to build 180, 190, 210, 220, 230 and above pounds.
That depends on you and your genetics, food intake and training.
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How many years of lifting,bulking & cutting?[/quote]
That depends on you and your genetics, food intake and training.
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What kind of poundages/repetitions in basic lifts should be lifted to build that amound of muscle mass?[/quote]
That depends on you and your genetics, food intake and training.
Amazingly funny post. I’m seriously laughing hard as hell.
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
So many things wrong here, but to answer part of your question, it took about a year and a half.[/quote]
lol?
Professor X and Thibaudeau got it right. Almost all of it is based on food intake, genetics, and training. Height is a major factor as well, however. I’m 6’3" at 210 and 11% BF. By regular standards, I’m a big guy but it’s not like sirens go off and Japanese people run for cover when I go to get some milk. Your height plays a big role in terms of how big your muscles look on your frame. Put a 5’5" 200 pounder at 10% BF next to me, yeah that guy is fucking yoked. Back to what it takes, well a lot of god damn work and dedication.
This is a lifestyle; if you think learning points A B and C will suddenly get you there, you are dead wrong. And Thibaudeau gave a great point: Your head is in the wrong place. If you place your entire focus on a single goal(an unlikely one to boot) your going to miss the experience. When I had gotten to 200 lbs.(which was my original goal)I could have cared less; I had become more concerned with DL and OH press max, as well as the new lifestyle I had formed. Enjoy the journey and make that shit count. The rest will come(but not gonna lie, probable not in the form of 200 lbs. with 10% BF)
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
So many things wrong here, but to answer part of your question, it took about a year and a half.[/quote]
Way to go grave digger. It was only four months old.