20 Y/O, 5’7, 145lbs, 27-28 Inch Waist

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my message, I appreciate it. Although testosterone has not much bad effects when under 500mg / week I do not plan on overdoing it. But for me trying new things is exciting, I’d rather try than to always wonder and regret it.

For me the test is for overall health, because I know for sure that my test levels are not above average. I’m not insecure about the way I look, but I like to see transformations. I also live a super strict life in terms of routines and I’d like the test to have the energy to full out expand my focus on all parts… not just training.

As mentioned before I have my own marketing business which I’d like to focus on. To juggle this with a family, training, nutrition and work is a lot to handle. Not saying It’s impossible to do it all naturally. But I like the feeling of having an edge with my rituals.

I believe that if I do this in a smart way I will most likely not have permanent sides, especially not with test only. But sure nandrolone alone could shut down my libido for an extended period of time. But this is not the case.

I guess some part of it is connected to my ego, not gonna lie. But the overall picture is to enhance my overall performance in life.

By the way, love that you’re deciding to lift naturally and crush it that way. Respect!

I appreciate that bro, thank you!

Yeah I’m not that strong on the compounds, I’ve always tried to stay away from heavier weights on these lifts simply because I’ve problems with my lower back.

And to be completely honest I don’t want super bulky muscles because of my small frame. Always have been more for higher reps than lower (6-10) so strength has never been the goal over muscle. Even though I know that progressive overload is essential…

Hey @lammgard, physique-wise, I’d say you’re doing great. Vascular with an obviously “look like you lift” physique. For your size, your lifts are decent as well.

I’m not here to comment on your supplement use, as that is outside my wheelhouse. Just stay safe man, you have a daughter that needs her Dad around for a long time, so just be careful with your drug use.

You seem to have a good attitude and have been receptive of the comments and criticism offered to you, so I respect that. Cheers.

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Thank you so much my dude! Working so hard to grow, these comments definetely empower me go keep going.

And finally someone who came to answer my question instead of criticize my drugs lol!

Yeah I mean, considering that I can squat more than double my bodyweight is okay I guess. But definetely working to bring up my strength.

I’ll update you with pics, as of now gained about 15lbs, but i think it’s mostly water.

I appreciate the comment a lot, and my daughter is my world I would never risk hurting myself for her own good.

Actually I’ll post a few updated pics…

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Just curious, no judgement here, but why do you lift? What are your goals?

You may have mentioned it in the thread but I missed it.

At first i lifted because I was tired of being skinny, and no I didn’t get bullied for it lol (classic). Then I started really enjoying it, like being at the actual gym and reaching goals.

I always wanted muscles as a kid too haha

Right now I am considering to compete within a few years. I love the gym!

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Here is an update… It’s been roughly one month or so since I’ve started my cycle.

Gained 25lbs of weight by now, pumps are amazing and no sign of side effects besides slight water retention.

Weights feel lighter and I think my recovery is much better. I do sweat more at night. Also getting powerful erections!

Here is a before after:

Jesus Christ… how much gear are you using to have gained 25lbs in one month… I think you’re holding fat more water than you think you are

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Yeah exactly my thoughts. Nobody gains even 15 pounds of pure muscle in a month.

Never said it was just muscle. But yeah by now I’ve gained 30lbs. Don’t know what kind of weight it is but veins and separation is better than ever.

As noted before. 250mg test e per week, 150mg npp per week and 12.5mg of proviron per day.

Here is another before after.

Props for sticking to reasonable dosages, You’re not going full retard like those guys who use 700mg tren weekly on a first cycle… You’ll probably lose about 15-20 lbs when you come off

Never stated it was pure muscle bro.

Not judging, but just to clarify, are you putting those captioned pictures on social media pretending that just “time” brought you that progress?

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No… because those pics (the before and after) were before he used gear… as is evident by the “lean bulk 1.5 years” not “lean bulk 10 weeks”

Why are you assuming the 1.5 years doesn’t include that 10 weeks?

And how are you overlooking the fact a 20 year old who hopped on gear without it being a medical necessity just posted a ‘progress takes time’ picture?

C’mon dude. Don’t be blind to this stuff. I don’t judge people’s moral compass from the decisions they make, but I don’t have a problem calling out stupid shit either.

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I’m assuming it because in his current progress pics he looks far more jacked than the 1.5 year transformation

Perhaps he took those pics before he hopped on, the current pics are on cycle? I didn’t notice he was 20, that entirely slipped my mind… I should clarify he is on low dosages, it’s nowhere neay as bad as many of the 23-27 year olds who use retard doses, but people turn a blind eye because they’ve reached an arbitrary age bracket

That being said, when I think of twenty I always think of an individual being significantly older and more mature than I… I’m not sure why this is, probably because that’s the designated bracket for no longer being a teenager. Given that I’m nineteen, I still lump myself within the teenage category, anyone 20+ is suddenly an adult… it’s a flawed perception to have, and I do believe many adults even, 30+ behave in ways more childish than most kids… but there’s still that engrained perception to me of “oh, he’s not a kid anymore”… but when I think of the fact that in a mere 10-11 months I’ll no longer be a kid… this is a very scary thought to me… I started having fun later than most kids, what if it’s over now? I’m sure that won’t be the case, college should be fun… but I’m going into a fairly study intensive.

I can’t help but still have this perception given many have said to me “I had the most fun in my teens”… if my teens were to be the best portion of my life… that’d be incredibly sad…

He had a decent physique to begin with, but idk why he’s using gear to post progress pics… that’s… dumb… using gear to seek validation from other online peers absent of a sponsorship/making money doesn’t make sense

For generalised recreation would be a far more sensible reason

Was comparing this bulk to my last one, clean eating has been great for me so wanted to emphasize that!

Was just a story bro don’t worry about it, and I don’t care about being a fake natural either if that’s what you’re getting so triggered about…

Last time i bulked which was 1.5 years ago. Vs this bulk now, yeah. It’s not like i took the other picture 10 weeks ago lol…

Progress takes time that is a very general statement, if i wrote something like ”hard work is all, i’m so natural!!” - it would be a false statement.

Thank you for the story and nice words, but if you look at my captions on my instagram all I do is document progress.

For example if i upload a back pic i write something like back gains!

Are you telling me it’s against morals to document my journey on Instagram of I’m not natural?